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No wonder Vikki prefers Eldredge over "Bulldog" Ho

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My god. Who's editing the Living section at the AJC these days?

In today's AJC print story, Steve McCoy is quoted in a very inflammatory manner about the "lies and deceit" and "disingenuosness" from Star management and then.....reading down, reading down....there's nothing to back that up! No example of what he meant, no follow-up, just an incendiary quote.

Eldredge immediately follows the quote with an inane, out-of-place anecdote about the wisdom of talking up Elton John on the air, which, of course, speaks to tactics and strategy - but certainly not to lies and deceit.

I'm not a big Cox Conspiracy Theorist, but if I were Bowen or Kanov, I'd rightly be pissed at being portrayed as a liar when there's not a single example or citation in the story that points to unethical behavior.

Not blaming Steve; I'm sure he feels that way, but Eldredge can't throw a quote like that so high up in the story and then never come close to substantiating it.

Rodney, tell me you would have drilled down a little harder!

Also, I'm fairly certain that the head shot of S&V on the ajc homepage is at least 15 years old. Kind of odd to choose that one, since the story is pegged to their aging. Hmmmmm.
 
Rich has known Vikki for years and he broke the story of her blood clot last year so he did the interview and wrote the story. As for the photo, I thought that was the one provided to us by B98.5 so it should be relatively recent.
 
Can't blame you for not throwing your colleague under the bus, Rodney, but I bet there's a part of you that was a little annoyed by that piece.

I'll take your silence as affirmation ;)
 
I just spoke with Steve McCoy and he repeated the line about "lies." I asked him for specifics. He wouldn't give me any, saying he'd like to put it behind him. He also said he wasn't allowed to speak to me contractually while at Star 94 and was frustrated at times by not being able to respond to Mark Kanov's comments about him. I again asked for specifics but he couldn't recall what Kanov said that was disputable. Ah... such is water under the bridge.
 
Lies? What lies? Keeping a morning show on the air for 17 years while the ratings and revenue slipped after year nine, <sarcasm>Kanov is a real bastard.</sarcasm>

You know I used to respect Steve & Clotty but the more I hear about there shenanigans, the more I get the feeling they are two ****** bags.
 
Rodney Ho said:
I just spoke with Steve McCoy and he repeated the line about "lies." I asked him for specifics. He wouldn't give me any, saying he'd like to put it behind him. He also said he wasn't allowed to speak to me contractually while at Star 94 and was frustrated at times by not being able to respond to Mark Kanov's comments about him. I again asked for specifics but he couldn't recall what Kanov said that was disputable. Ah... such is water under the bridge.
Water under the bridge??? Then why bring it up at all??? Man up already Steve! You made a choice not to speak whether under contract or not. And after reading Eldredge's article at least S&V made it pretty clear the real reason they're not at Star any longer.
 
RAD1 said:
Rodney Ho said:
I just spoke with Steve McCoy and he repeated the line about "lies." I asked him for specifics. He wouldn't give me any, saying he'd like to put it behind him. He also said he wasn't allowed to speak to me contractually while at Star 94 and was frustrated at times by not being able to respond to Mark Kanov's comments about him. I again asked for specifics but he couldn't recall what Kanov said that was disputable. Ah... such is water under the bridge.
Water under the bridge??? Then why bring it up at all??? Man up already Steve! You made a choice not to speak whether under contract or not. And after reading Eldredge's article at least S&V made it pretty clear the real reason they're not at Star any longer.

Precisely. The local scribes are looking for dirt and thanks to Steve McCoy's (non) quote, there was none. He went to work for 17 years at Star 94, he was paid for 17 years. Things change. That's life. Next...
 
radiochic05 said:
RAD1 said:
Rodney Ho said:
I just spoke with Steve McCoy and he repeated the line about "lies." I asked him for specifics. He wouldn't give me any, saying he'd like to put it behind him. He also said he wasn't allowed to speak to me contractually while at Star 94 and was frustrated at times by not being able to respond to Mark Kanov's comments about him. I again asked for specifics but he couldn't recall what Kanov said that was disputable. Ah... such is water under the bridge.
Water under the bridge??? Then why bring it up at all??? Man up already Steve! You made a choice not to speak whether under contract or not. And after reading Eldredge's article at least S&V made it pretty clear the real reason they're not at Star any longer.

Precisely. The local scribes are looking for dirt and thanks to Steve McCoy's (non) quote, there was none. He went to work for 17 years at Star 94, he was paid for 17 years. Things change. That's life. Next...
Not a fan of the media but no one put words in Steve's mouth, he brought it up. So Man up!

And a boo boo 985??? kelly and alpha page still up on their site http://b985.com/kelly_alpha/
 
The other thing that has never been addressed is last year's extra-credit calculus problem: "If Vikki quits her job and Steve says he'd never work with anyone else, then how could Steve have been fired?"

Only the Mayans could solve that one.

Boy, that Eldredge article was a POS. Get a pair, Rich!
 
Comment on Mccoy

You wonder why some politicans don't talk to certain reporters? Well the reasons work for this beat as well. Richard Eldridge did a great and fair story on McCoy/Locke. It was followed by a ajc reporter showing up unexpectedly at WSB today trying to dig deeper on the "lies and deceit" comment. What would that gain McCoy? You think Kanov would own up to the games he played. You think the HR lady at Star would admit what she knows. Richard at least called the PD at star who of course denied putting content suggestions / restrictions on Steve, and he threw in there's the old Kanov quote of "S&V have outgrown our (young hip cool with it) audience." That made Bowen look like a liar.

Come on, everybody gets selective memory about now. So you're saying if steve had been specific Rodney would have taken the quotes and printed them fairly? No. He would have taken them back to Star, stirred things up , worked an angle and printed as the lead their denial which would cast more doubt. And the star? Rodney.

People learn that when reporters want the story to go a certain way there is no use wasting time on the subject.
NOW with time past McCoy CAN talk about the way they were treated but he won't. He won't get involved in a contest of he said/ they said. He's let Arbitron keep score.

Kanov is history. His legacy is how he left the station and let's not give him another opportunity to rewrite history. We've seen his idea of improving a radio station. Meanwhile, the PD is trying to keep his cool young audience. And B98 is scoring big.

McCoy doesn't have to be a prop for some reporter looking to "go further." Let's just say nobody at Star thought it would play out this way and a reporter's only as valuable as his (1 sources and (2 credibility/trust.

There is a reason McCoy didn't take the bait from the other ajc reporter today. Been there/done that. He doesn't need to be a prop for a Ho Story, because he IS the story for B98.5 whether anybody likes it or not.
B98's audience is on the rise. The AJC? Declining. They need a juicy story more than McCoy needs to reason with a guy who asks questions and is speculating the answer while you trying to answer.

Eldridge did a good job of bringing out a point previously unreported because the reporter assumed what Star management told him, that nobody over 40 matters.

This week variety magazine reported that for the first time ever, the average age of the TV networks ABC, Fox, CBS, NBC CW and My, the average age is 50.

Gee Rodney, maybe Cox is smarter than the people you hang out with, pal.
 
Ready for air, you obviously know the S&V back story at Star better than most of us, but I'm asking questions about Eldredge's story, not Rodney's follow-up.

My beef is the lack of journalistic follow-through on Eldredge's story: If I, the reporter, directly quote an explosive accusation that maligns another individual or company, then the onus is on me to drill down and press the source to back that up with an example(s). If the source can't or won't, then I can't use that quote.

In the metro section, for example, you won't see a story where a city councilman accuses Shirley Franklin of deceit and then the article moves onto a completely different issue, never to return to the basis for the deceit.
 
Neil Millman said:
Lies? What lies? Keeping a morning show on the air for 17 years while the ratings and revenue slipped after year nine, <sarcasm>Kanov is a real bastard.</sarcasm>

You know I used to respect Steve & Clotty but the more I hear about there shenanigans, the more I get the feeling they are two ****** bags.
Hmmmm, No one even noticed this post... Are you slipping? And how will this affect Dave fm?
 
Re: Comment on Mccoy

Ready for air said:
You wonder why some politicans don't talk to certain reporters? Well the reasons work for this beat as well. Richard Eldridge did a great and fair story on McCoy/Locke. It was followed by a ajc reporter showing up unexpectedly at WSB today trying to dig deeper on the "lies and deceit" comment. What would that gain McCoy? You think Kanov would own up to the games he played. You think the HR lady at Star would admit what she knows. Richard at least called the PD at star who of course denied putting content suggestions / restrictions on Steve, and he threw in there's the old Kanov quote of "S&V have outgrown our (young hip cool with it) audience." That made Bowen look like a liar.

Come on, everybody gets selective memory about now. So you're saying if steve had been specific Rodney would have taken the quotes and printed them fairly? No. He would have taken them back to Star, stirred things up , worked an angle and printed as the lead their denial which would cast more doubt. And the star? Rodney.

People learn that when reporters want the story to go a certain way there is no use wasting time on the subject.
NOW with time past McCoy CAN talk about the way they were treated but he won't. He won't get involved in a contest of he said/ they said. He's let Arbitron keep score.

Kanov is history. His legacy is how he left the station and let's not give him another opportunity to rewrite history. We've seen his idea of improving a radio station. Meanwhile, the PD is trying to keep his cool young audience. And B98 is scoring big.

McCoy doesn't have to be a prop for some reporter looking to "go further." Let's just say nobody at Star thought it would play out this way and a reporter's only as valuable as his (1 sources and (2 credibility/trust.

There is a reason McCoy didn't take the bait from the other ajc reporter today. Been there/done that. He doesn't need to be a prop for a Ho Story, because he IS the story for B98.5 whether anybody likes it or not.
B98's audience is on the rise. The AJC? Declining. They need a juicy story more than McCoy needs to reason with a guy who asks questions and is speculating the answer while you trying to answer.

Eldridge did a good job of bringing out a point previously unreported because the reporter assumed what Star management told him, that nobody over 40 matters.

This week variety magazine reported that for the first time ever, the average age of the TV networks ABC, Fox, CBS, NBC CW and My, the average age is 50.

Gee Rodney, maybe Cox is smarter than the people you hang out with, pal.

Yawn! Ever hear of the KISS theory??? Again, if you're gonna play ball then batter up!
 
Steve brought up the "lies and deceit" line to me voluntarily. I only asked a follow up because he hadn't been specific. And if he chose not to be specific, why bring it up? That's all. I have no agenda here except to get an interesting story and if that means I'm "stirring the pot," isn't that my job?

Yes, Ready for air obviously doesn't like me much, eh? He doesn't think I could be fair, however one defines that. All I can do is try my best here.
 
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