November ratings are here

[davideduardo]

you guys would be the definition of Haters. Awfully managed and programmed? please explain how so.. Cause i would bet you are not the target and probably cant speak the language. I actually enjoy cheering for the underdog and compared to what Houston has to offer some of these smaller operations have good talents and actually keep it local.

I do understand the language and have a tad of programming experience. Those translator based stations have very poor music selection (lots of stiffs so that they can say they play songs the other stations do not play), terrible music flow and scheduling, bad horizontal and vertical rotation and lots of overdone puking and pot whipping promos.

"Local" is not important if it's simply "bad".

 

[old school radio]

"Haters"? Because i or "we" don’t share your opinion? You must be part of the generation Snowflake hysterical cry babies millennials.

I am a devoted christian and it really bothers me when "pastors" who claim to be clean as a whistle, on the straight and narrow, and happily devoted to their godfearing wives have turned out to be lying, cheating, extort money from the members of their congregations, identity theft,using donations for something other than their intended
purpose,lying on fcc applications,overpower stations,breaking into towers,stealing equipment, multiple lawsuits, personal lawsuits,caught with prostitutes,adultery,fraud,bank fraud, sexual harassment,polygamy,molestation etc., etc.... Sorry I can't just sit here and watch.

Awfully managed and programmed? YES!!!!!

A. 104.5 La mejor was a complete flop with the exception of Piolin. Only positive about was ratings 1.4 was and they weren't able to maintain them.
B. La Nueva 94.1 "spanish Christian" never even had a .3
C. La Calle 92.5 HUGE FLOP! Did not even make a dent on KAMA 104.9 of KLOL 101.1
D. I heart Radio- that relationship went out the window. I heart kicked them out for non payment (till this day all stations in every market still running illegally with no HD)
E. All Houston frequencies have changed formats 5 times or more in less than 6 years.
F. Kicked out from every tower site for non-payment
G. Got evicted from multiple offices for non-payment
H. Multiple fcc complaints

Want more??!!??!!

You come from a different generation. You even posted on one other comment before "Man if the FCC approved it and the people that own the other signal are bit bitching about then just let it play out man"

You are probably Joe Donaldson! Your Opinion Is Irrelevant!

Sorry not gonna’ sugar coat it. Beleive me i would find a few choice words that aren’t appropriate or polite for radio discussions...

 

[davideduardo]

Sorry not gonna’ sugar coat it. Beleive me i would find a few choice words that aren’t appropriate or polite for radio discussions...

Betcha' I can guess the words, 'cause I am mumbling the same ones.

These stations have a combination of operators that do not follow the rules and staffers who have, for a variety of reasons, not been able to get or keep employment at the major stations in the market.

Those stations use unoriginal names, logos adapted from a station in another market and can't even spell correctly on their rather limited websites and the social media posts of their "talent".

 

[CTListener]

lots of overdone puking and pot whipping promos.

I've heard of "puking" as a description of the exaggerated "Hey! I'm on the radio!" delivery prevalent at small-market stations with air talent fresh out of college, but "pot whipping" is a new term to me. What does it mean?

 

[frankberry]

I can still hear it ... "Hi there, rock 'n rollers, it's me, Pukin' Pete ...."

 

[Mediafrog+]

These stations have a combination of operators that do not follow the rules and staffers who have, for a variety of reasons, not been able to get or keep employment at the major stations in the market.

Those stations use unoriginal names, logos adapted from a station in another market and can't even spell correctly on their rather limited websites and the social media posts of their "talent".

At least the merry-go-round of programming changes on the local translators and LPFMs gives us something to talk about on this board, as there really isn't anything else going on other than format flip and sale speculation, which is mostly wishful thinking. An earthquake like Detroit saw recently with three format flips in the same day is not likely to happen, though it would make for some great discussion...

 

[radiohits]

Betcha' I can guess the words, 'cause I am mumbling the same ones.

These stations have a combination of operators that do not follow the rules and staffers who have, for a variety of reasons, not been able to get or keep employment at the major stations in the market.

Those stations use unoriginal names, logos adapted from a station in another market and can't even spell correctly on their rather limited websites and the social media posts of their "talent".

David sounds like your just blabbering things with no Merit the afternoon drive dj in one of those stations was at the rival liberman station for 23 years and LA before that.
talk about original names? does La raza ,que buena have original names? David i really would love to know what US regional mexican station or any spanish language station you are involved with since i really would love to see what the play list looks like and learn more.

 

[BamaTX]

you guys would be the definition of Haters. Awfully managed and programmed? please explain how so..

Have you not read the thread? Half of the translators are illegally operating without a parent station. There is currently one station with an MP3 player set on shuffle. Although we only have circumstantial evidence, there is a chance all these translators are overpowered and not following their directional patterns. Then there is the fact that these translators have played a game of musical chairs with their formats. And someone who works in the industry and knows spanish has told me that they sound very 'small market'-ish with a musical direction that makes no sense.

Cause i would bet you are not the target and probably cant speak the language. I actually enjoy cheering for the underdog and compared to what Houston has to offer some of these smaller operations have good talents and actually keep it local.

They're not an underdog by any means. They're a church with loads of money that preys on people. A lot of their clients are small businesses that don't know any better. And by the time they catch on to their mistakes, the translator is already on to their next format/lease.

 

[BamaTX]

Those stations use unoriginal names, logos adapted from a station in another market and can't even spell correctly on their rather limited websites and the social media posts of their "talent".

104.5's logo is a straight ripoff of another logo that ripped off their logo from Multimedios former "La Caliente" logo in Mexico.

And their "talent" is basically sex appeal. The way those girls dress for the camera is nowhere near close to "business casual". Well, at least not for a church operation.

 

[davideduardo]

David sounds like your (sic) just blabbering things with no Merit the afternoon drive dj in one of those stations was at the rival liberman station for 23 years and LA before that.
talk about original names? does La raza ,que buena have original names? David i really would love to know what US regional mexican station or any spanish language station you are involved with since i really would love to see what the play list looks like and learn more.

Jajajajaja. ROTFL.

My first regional experience was at XELZ 1440 in Mexico City as an intern in 1963 (That was the regional station of Organización Radio Centro, by the way, where the 5-station cluster ("cada una primera en su tipo") had nearly half of the listening out of nearly 40 stations in the market).

Then, from 72 to 74, KWKW in LA.

Later, KSCA, LA. KLNV, San Diego. WOJO, Chicago, KLTN, Houston, KLQB, Austin, KESS, Dallas, KISF, Las Vegas, KHOT, Phoenix, KBNA, El Paso,, then, KROM, San Antonio plus being co-creator of regional-based "adult hits" called "Recuerdo" at KRCD/KRCV in LA, WPPN in Chicago, KBRG in the Bay Area, KLQV in San Diego, KAMA in Houston, KOMR/KQMR in Phoenix and others.

By the way, the "Que Buena" or "Ke Buena" name originated at Tichenor's KBNA in El Paso; they failed to enforce the service mark on it so many other similarly named stations took it later on.

Other than that, I was the consultant that created Mega 98.3 in Buenos Aires, the "pure national rock" station that for half a decade was the most listened to station in the Western Hemisphere. Or Radio Uno, 11-Q, Z-93 and Salsoul in Puerto Rico, successive #1 stations covering over 35 years. I could go on, but it would be pretty excessive now that I made the point that those translators are very, very bad with under-performing talent, wretched playlists and horrid rotations and terrible signals and no measured listening.

P.S. Having worked for Liberman is no recommendation; I did a near-3-year term for being stupid but fortunately left for Heftel when I could; when I left nearly a dozen others came with me.

 

[davideduardo]

I've heard of "puking" as a description of the exaggerated "Hey! I'm on the radio!" delivery prevalent at small-market stations with air talent fresh out of college, but "pot whipping" is a new term to me. What does it mean?

It refers to a jock who whips up the pot to a music background (intro, sfx, instrumental track) between every pause in a sentence.

Often accompanied by puking.

I had one pot-whipper who, finally, I cured by sneaking up behind him and holding his arm while he was talking! He never did it again.

 

[davideduardo]

And their "talent" is basically sex appeal. The way those girls dress for the camera is nowhere near close to "business casual". Well, at least not for a church operation.

They even stole that from LBI and their Estrella TV... famous for bad taste and protests against them ranging from the National Hispanic Media Coalition (Alex Nogales) to various gay and transgender organizations.

 

[radiohits]

They even stole that from LBI and their Estrella TV... famous for bad taste and protests against them ranging from the National Hispanic Media Coalition (Alex Nogales) to various gay and transgender organizations.

Come on David every station does this.. Have not seen la bronca? The girl on the Bmf show? This is the new norm used by Most companies.
David we can all flex our resume and past experiences but i am talking about today 2020, I would really like to see what your programming so I can take some notes from that book.

 

[radiohits]

It refers to a jock who whips up the pot to a music background (intro, sfx, instrumental track) between every pause in a sentence.

Often accompanied by puking.

I had one pot-whipper who, finally, I cured by sneaking up behind him and holding his arm while he was talking! He never did it again.

HR would probably not approve ... lmao

 

[radiohits]

And someone who works in the industry and knows spanish has told me that they sound very 'small market'-ish with a musical direction that makes no sense.

They're not an underdog by any means. They're a church with loads of money that preys on people. A lot of their clients are small businesses that don't know any better. And by the time they catch on to their mistakes, the translator is already on to their next format/lease.

Someone told me? Well I would have to disagree and I happen to know the format.
I guess we have nothing better talk about than a station that is not even rated so for all we know the station could be doing well.

 

[davideduardo]

Someone told me? Well I would have to disagree and I happen to know the format.
I guess we have nothing better talk about than a station that is not even rated so for all we know the station could be doing well.

If they are running that translator without an accompanying AM or FM HD Channel, they are illegal and not eligible for encoding. If they are legal and encoding, they show in the subscriber ratings if they have a rating (not share) of 0.1 or more.

I've heard them, and they are what I'd call small-market or primitive.

 

[davideduardo]

HR would probably not approve ... lmao

HR thought it was funny!

 

[davideduardo]

Come on David every station does this.. Have not seen la bronca? The girl on the Bmf show? This is the new norm used by Most companies.
David we can all flex our resume and past experiences but i am talking about today 2020, I would really like to see what your programming so I can take some notes from that book.

I have not done any stations domestically outside of Puerto Rico since the virus began. Most of my work is in Latin America. The first thing I show stations is they can avoid future legal issues by geozoning their streams so you won't be able to hear them in the US. I've been doing this for 61 years now, so taking it a little more easy.

And I have not been a single-station PD for nearly 25 years now, although I've stepped in on several occasions to be interim PD for stations like KLVE in the recent past when the station was between PDs. My main job at stations now is to train, inspire and support local PDs in everything from research, music scheduling, talent development and promotion as well as new media integration.

And La Bronca is well toned-down from her antics at SBS. And, of course, she is playing a role that parallels her personality on the show... sort of like Sof?*a Vergara on "Modern Family".

 

[BamaTX]

Someone told me? Well I would have to disagree and I happen to know the format.
I guess we have nothing better talk about than a station that is not even rated so for all we know the station could be doing well.

You happen to know the format? Then you would know that 104.5 is too broad for this market, let alone for Regional Mexican standards.

The "Regional" part in "Regional Mexican" was meant to cram a variety of subgenres found around Mexico (and the US as well....anyone remember The Sparx?) into one station. This was a US industry standard that began before the explosion of Mexican migration. It worked wonderfully back then for a few of reasons;

A) There was no competition for this format

B) The listening base was too small and diverse for one taste.

C) There were not many experienced Mexican American PDs back then.

So the best thing to do was to cram as many flavors of music into one format and hope the wide net caught as many listeners as possible. This method is still alive in small markets were the above still holds true. But in large markets like Houston? That's no longer going to work.

To give you an idea of how diverse the music is in Mexico, the style of music can vary by neighborhood in Mexico City. Yet all of it would fall under the "Regional Mexican" umbrella here in the US. But of course, don't tell that to the people running 104.5. You'd figure an out of touch gringo who thinks Tejano and Regional Mexican are the same thing is running the show (which coincidentally is exactly what is happening a few hour(s) outside of town).

 

[radiohits]

You happen to know the format? Then you would know that 104.5 is too broad for this market, let alone for Regional Mexican standards.

The "Regional" part in "Regional Mexican" was meant to cram a variety of subgenres found around Mexico (and the US as well....anyone remember The Sparx?) into one station. This was a US industry standard that began before the explosion of Mexican migration. It worked wonderfully back then for a few of reasons;

A) There was no competition for this format

B) The listening base was too small and diverse for one taste.

C) There were not many experienced Mexican American PDs back then.

So the best thing to do was to cram as many flavors of music into one format and hope the wide net caught as many listeners as possible. This method is still alive in small markets were the above still holds true. But in large markets like Houston? That's no longer going to work.

To give you an idea of how diverse the music is in Mexico, the style of music can vary by neighborhood in Mexico City. Yet all of it would fall under the "Regional Mexican" umbrella here in the US. But of course, don't tell that to the people running 104.5. You'd figure an out of touch gringo who thinks Tejano and Regional Mexican are the same thing is running the show (which coincidentally is exactly what is happening a few hour(s) outside of town).

if that was true please explain Going from Maluma to Tucanes de Tijuana and back to ivy queen followed by huracanes de el norte ? that sounds like a big net trying to catch as many as possible and that is exactly the rotation of KOVE and it works ok for them. Regional is divided into norteno,norteno light banda,cumbia,tierra caliente, and on... i see nothing wrong with a station playing a wide variety of everything under the regional mexican umbrella . I remember when i worked at KLTN forget that we would ever play banda or corridos... but they do now i mean i could put up my bds real time and we could compare and i dont think we would find much of a difference from what most regional mexican stations are playing .