Now They're Killing Country

[CTListener]

And this is Cody Johnson:

What say you, landtuna?

 

[Don CT]

When Elvis came along there were two basic complaints:

1. His music was taken to be a rip off of previous R&B (or Black) songs.
2. His on-stage histrionics were seen as debauchery by a mostly White audience. This was obviously the BIG criticism.

Same thing happened when music video's came out. The music itself slowly became second rate and, in fact, doesn't exist any longer. It's all about the video. Thank you Buggles. Video has now been enhanced by streaming and stage shows and most of the rock and pop music is now background noise.

My original post simply compared the demise of Country to the previous pop/rock collapse.

Your mileage may differ.

Elvis did rip off black artists.

 

[vchimpanzee]

Beautiful/Easy Listening is as dead as Sanskrit. It's not being affected by anything now.

Only on commercial radio. My Facebook group can tell you a different story about what is online.

 

[TheBigA]

Elvis did rip off black artists.

He recorded two songs by black writer Otis Blackwell (Don't Be Cruel and Return To Sender) and the publishing royalties set him up for life. Otis never felt he was "ripped off."

 

[vchimpanzee]

And this is Cody Johnson:

What say you, landtuna?

I know what I said the first time I heard it.

That's one of the few good songs in country today.

 

[landtuna]

Except that country is not dead. In fact it's become more popular than pop.

Which sort of makes my point.

And there are people, such as Cody Johnson, who are having hits with songs that are very traditional.

Who?

 

[TheBigA]

Which sort of makes my point.

Who?

So you're saying something is dead because of your own ignorance. We call that prejudice.

You admit you don't know country, yet you feel qualified to declare it dead.

 

[landtuna]

This what country music is today. It's all over the place, with something for just about everyone in demographics this genre has never reached before. If this is a "demise," where do I sign up for one of my own?

Neither would play and I don't care enough to chase them down.

I never used the term "demise". Unless, of course there is more room to lower the bar.

Just learned my 12 YO gdaughter's fav Country performer is Morgan Wallen. I can no longer keep a gun in the house. ()

 

[landtuna]

So you're saying something is dead because of your own ignorance. We call that prejudice.

You admit you don't know country, yet you feel qualified to declare it dead.

Never said either.

 

[landtuna]

Elvis did rip off black artists.

So did Pat Boone.

 

[landtuna]

He recorded two songs by black writer Otis Blackwell (Don't Be Cruel and Return To Sender) and the publishing royalties set him up for life. Otis never felt he was "ripped off."

Were you alive back then? You quoted one songwriter. There were many more than that and that was a pervasive attitude back then. I have no way of knowing whether it was, in fact, true or not but it was definitely a popular opinion.

 

[TheBigA]

Never said either.

Let me remind you:

I admitted I have never been a Country fan.


My original post simply compared the demise of Country to the previous pop/rock collapse.

Were you alive back then? You quoted one songwriter. There were many more than that and that was a pervasive attitude back then. I have no way of knowing whether it was, in fact, true or not but it was definitely a popular opinion.

Once again admitting ignorance about the subject. Here's an article about Otis & Elvis:

Otis Blackwell … Songwriter for Elvis Presley

Otis Blackwell … his music fueled the Elvis Presley machine in the fifties and sixties

www.elvis-history-blog.com

 

[radiofan2023]

So did Pat Boone.

Elvis was more talented in terms of being able to sing and dance than Pat Boone (although I found Pat’s rock covers album hilarious and not as bad as I expected).

 

[Negin]

Facebook is a scourge.

Fakebook needs to be taken out back and shot!

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

I get that sentiment, but also believe it’s how you use it. I am keeping with some old acquaintances from various points of my life and more of a friendship is there than was possible before, even if it’s online.

I think back to, for instance, my parents and how they basically only ever caught up with classmates at reunions, and of course those dwindled as more and more died off. As we’ve all scattered near and far and raised our own families, dealt with the losses of loved ones and the like, it’s a virtual kind of touch base. It sure as heck beats waiting for whatever arbitrary interval to try to catch up over a meal of crappy ballroom food. I found out, for instance, my kids shared an interest with a long ago classmate, and we shared information, support as parents and even realized we’d be crossing paths so we could look out for each other and say hello. And if someone just harps on misinformation about politics or whatever, I mute it and move on.

I also follow some brands and local businesses that I personally patronize and like. Find out a special deal, yay for my wallet. Or just have some quick laughs at a joke.

Any platform can be what you choose to make of it. I choose to try to see and focus on the ways they can offer me something that supplements my life, not detracts from it.

 

[davideduardo]

Fakebook needs to be taken out back and shot!

Why?

All social media can be used in excess, but if employed reasonably it’s a great way to stay in contact with distant friends and family. To me, the problem comes with people who make having thousands of friends a goal, and then then end up wasting time posting photos of the espresso they had this morning and nothing that is not an immense waste of time.

Used in moderation, Facebook is a great app!

 

[vchimpanzee]

I've been down so long it looks like up to me.

That's what country music is supposed to be.

 

[TheBigA]

While on the subject of country and awards show, Thursday night's People's Choice Country Awards on NBC came in 2nd to The Golden Bachelor on ABC.

TV Ratings: ‘Golden Bachelor’ Earns a Rose From Viewers

The senior version of the long-running reality franchise outdraws the most recent 'Bachelor' premiere and nearly equals it among adults under 50.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

The Golden Bachelor was the top show on the broadcast networks Thursday night in both total viewers, beating out the 3.9 million for NBC’s People’s Choice Country Awards, and adults 18-49, topping the 0.5 rating for Big Brother on CBS.

The big winner in terms of ratings was Thursday Night Football with 13 million viewers on Amazon Prime. Reality TV still gets viewers.

 

[radiofan2023]

Why?

All social media can be used in excess, but if employed reasonably it’s a great way to stay in contact with distant friends and family. To me, the problem comes with people who make having thousands of friends a goal, and then then end up wasting time posting photos of the espresso they had this morning and nothing that is not an immense waste of time.

Used in moderation, Facebook is a great app!

I’ll never forget when I posted a picture of my dinner on there (before I stopped using it) and Raechel Donahue commented something to the effect of “Thanks for the thrilling update.” 😀

 

[landtuna]

Once again admitting ignorance about the subject. Here's an article about Otis & Elvis:

Otis Blackwell … Songwriter for Elvis Presley

Otis Blackwell … his music fueled the Elvis Presley machine in the fifties and sixties

www.elvis-history-blog.com

Once again, you are quoting only one single songwriter.