Not a new concept. Bohemian Rhapsody became a hit again in 1991-1992, amid Freddie Mercury's death and Wayne's World. Also, Unchained Melody was remarkedly a popular hit in 1990-1991 with Ghost.
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NYC Metro Radio Ratings May 2022
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K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Somewhere on RD, in another thread, I also pointed out the recharting of "Do You Love Me" by the Contours, "Stand By Me" by Ben E. King, and "Twist And Shout" by the Beatles. Like your examples, those titles reappeared on the charts due to being used in high-profile, popular movies.
OK, so leave Spanish-language radio and Puerto Rico out of the conversation and focus on the original assertions about older rock titles on English-language stations on the mainland
You're right that Q104.5 plays Beatles and Stones. They also play The Doors. But they only play those songs that you were likely to hear on WNEW in the 70s. You won't hear "She Loves You" or the pre-1966 teenybopper Beatles.
And I wonder how one explains big band shows like the one on KTUC Tucson that I am listening to now?
The people who remember those songs from when they were popular are in their 80s and 90s. But then Harry Connick Jr,. Bette Midler, Linda Ronstadt, Michael Buble and Rod Stewart obviously like them.
With BWTB in particular, they tend to go deeper into Beatles discography, since that’s the point of the show. The noon feature will often play the more notable tracks but I’ve also tuned in to some obscure tracks.
I’m not sure how long the station will feature the noon block, it’s done as a tribute to the late Scott Muni who established the block but I’d say increasingly less listeners find it relevant nor know the more obscure tracks.
Like BigA said however, the station seldom plays She Loves You, Twist and Shout, etc. and tends to gravitate towards Abbey Road, the White Album, Sgt. Pepper, etc. although I have heard some of that earlier material on the BWTB.
Yes but again CT said "It's a current song in every aspect but its date of recording."
I dont know how you can call it a current song in every aspect when it already hit in 1985.
It technically wasn't a hit the first time. It charted, but peaked in the 30s.
Yeah, that's why I wrote what I wrote. It was huge in the UK, but basically stiffed here. Chances are most Americans who were listening in 1985 don't remember this song. In fact, if it only peaked in the 30s nationally, there's a good chance their local station of choice didn't play it at all or dropped it after a couple of weeks.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Because KTUC in 6+ (that is to say, overall standing in the market) wobbles around a one share when the margin of error is taken into account, in a market where the top station gets around a 7. That puts it consistently around 20th place and I bet that if I could see the demo breakouts, it is probably all 55+ with most of that above the 55-64 demo.
It likely only exists with that format because it is part of a cluster (Cumulus, which also owns the #2, 3 and 10 stations in 6+, including KIIM, which has been the market's dominant Country station for something like 50 years) and likely only has that format because Cumulus is able to put their Westwood One's Adult Standards format on there and leave it on auto-pilot. It is one of only two AMs they own in the market ... the other, KCUB, runs CBS Sports Radio (also distributed by Westwood One) and has even lower 6+ numbers than KTUC.
I would hazard a guess and say those two AMs are programmed as they are largely to get the network clearance since Tucson is a top-100 market.
There's your explanation, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with any perceived popularity of the music.
Westwood One's adult standards format is America's Best Music. KTUC is standards with almost nothing other than newer recordings of older songs from after about 1975, while America's Best Music leans heavily toward AC.
The big band show is 3 hours on Sunday.
A hint about how KTUC sells advertising: there are jobs available at Chewy, the pet food company. Four times during the same break, the same ad. Once they were one after the other.
That Chewy ad block is hard to swallow.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Whatever. It's still the reason and has little to do with popularity of the music.
American top 40 countdown technically said they play the hits & that song was on it.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
What AT40 used as on-air imaging for the audience's benefit does not necessarily agree with how the programming professionals define a "hit".
By modern programming standards, a "hit" is any song a majority of listeners, in consensus, wants to hear often. Period.
And that defines the difference between a radio, audience based, "hit" and a record industry "hit".
Bill Drake was perhaps the first programmer to recognize that there are "turntable" hits which are songs listeners love to hear on the radio but which they would never buy. The average record promoter has, historically, never recognized (or wanted to recognize) the difference.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
I'd like to elaborate a bit on the above, for clarity.
I monitor the airplay of about 40 Classic Hits stations, ranging from market #1 to market #186. About half of them carry the retro AT40 programs on the weekends. I have to cross-reference the cue sheets from each week's AT40 program to see which songs are being reflected in the airplay of those stations only because the late Casey Kasem had them in the countdown for that week. If the total spin count of a song is 20 (16 for the first hour's titles, because four of my monitored stations carry the three-hour version of the show) then it obviously gets no play otherwise and is therefore not considered a "hit" in my research, despite what Casey said.
Last week, 13 out of the 40 songs on the AT40 show did not get played otherwise. So AT40's hyperbole does not define a "hit".
I monitor the airplay of about 40 Classic Hits stations, ranging from market #1 to market #186. About half of them carry the retro AT40 programs on the weekends. I have to cross-reference the cue sheets from each week's AT40 program to see which songs are being reflected in the airplay of those stations only because the late Casey Kasem had them in the countdown for that week. If the total spin count of a song is 20 (16 for the first hour's titles, because four of my monitored stations carry the three-hour version of the show) then it obviously gets no play otherwise and is therefore not considered a "hit" in my research, despite what Casey said.
Last week, 13 out of the 40 songs on the AT40 show did not get played otherwise. So AT40's hyperbole does not define a "hit".
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