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Oakland A's and the teams future

CTListener said:
If the Golden Knights had been a typical expansion team, struggling for years before finally becoming a contender after anywhere from 5 to 10 seasons, I wonder if Vegas would be thought of in the same positive way today. As we all know, for reasons I still have trouble understanding, the Knights were a top-caliber NHL team from their very first game.
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Only a little faster than the Diamondbacks, who won the WS (over the Yankees who were attempting a four-peat) in their fourth season. (How much an effect 9/11 [which put the stretch run on pause for a week] and hosting the majority of games [the Snakes had HFA in the '01 WS and every game was won by the home team] had on the outcome is hard to determine.)
 
ixnay said:
Only a little faster than the Diamondbacks, who won the WS (over the Yankees who were attempting a four-peat) in their fourth season. (How much an effect 9/11 [which put the stretch run on pause for a week] and hosting the majority of games [the Snakes had HFA in the '01 WS and every game was won by the home team] had on the outcome is hard to determine.)
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The D'backs plunged heavily into trades and free agency only after starting their existence as an ordinary expansion team, getting performances you might expect to get out of other teams' leftovers for their first couple of seasons. The Knights were different. Underachievers and mediocrities suddenly became stars for that team.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
LV might be getting four major league teams as it is a serious candidate for the next round of NBA expansion along with Seattle, which is considered a lock for Sonics 2.0.
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And didn't the Oklahoma City Thunder come from Seattle?
 
CTListener said:
The D'backs plunged heavily into trades and free agency only after starting their existence as an ordinary expansion team, getting performances you might expect to get out of other teams' leftovers for their first couple of seasons.
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The Snakes grew up in a hurry. 100 wins and the division crown in their second season, five straight winning campaigns after a 65-97 opening year, and that WS winning season.

 
nomadcowatbk said:
can a city full of transplants support 3 pro teams? although many of them are CA transplants
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A major source of sporting event income in Las Vegas is the casino industry. They buy huge amounts of tickets to use as perks for the casino patrons, just as they give "free" hotel rooms and meals and the like.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
It was a return to SF for the Warriors, who played on that side of The Bay 1962-71.
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Yes, the Warriors ultimately moved to Oakland. Now, they've gone back to SF.

I used to go to a lot of A's games. The Coliseum was a pleasant stadium with a nice outfield. Unfortunately, the stadium was shared with the Raiders. Al Davis forced many changes that ruined the atmosphere and look of the stadium for baseball.

It's unfortunate if Oakland loses the A's. They had great teams in the early 70's and again in the 80s. Charlie Finley brought the team to Oakland and they won 3 straight World Series 72-74. Good times...
 
Interestingly the NBA had went through a debate where the Sacramento Kings was supposed to move out of Natomas. Las Vegas and Seattle were candidates to get the Kings before current Sacramento Kings management decided to go to Downtown Sacramento and put the now Golden 1 Arena in an area that previously held the downtown mall.

In Downtown Sacramento the west coast branch of lobbying organizations and campaign offices were a factor in keeping the Kings in the city.
 
RadioPatrol said:
Interestingly the NBA had went through a debate where the Sacramento Kings was supposed to move out of Natomas. Las Vegas and Seattle were candidates to get the Kings before current Sacramento Kings management decided to go to Downtown Sacramento and put the now Golden 1 Arena in an area that previously held the downtown mall.

In Downtown Sacramento the west coast branch of lobbying organizations and campaign offices were a factor in keeping the Kings in the city.
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The Sonics left Seattle when the city refused to fund a new arena. Seattle was in line to get the Kings under similar circumstances.
Since Sacramento only has one pro franchise, the NBA (David Stern) fought to keep them there as well.

The A's are facing an uphill battle. The Giants, 49ers, and Warriors all have fairly new facilities. Not sure if Oakland has enough political muscle to get another new stadium built in a COVID environment...
 

Another update in the Oakland A's and Stadium talks

Nevertheless, insiders say Sisolak appears reluctant to approve any such subsidy ahead of his November re-election campaign. It doesn’t help that New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, a fellow Democrat, is facing a backlash for proposing a record $850 million giveaway for a new Buffalo Bills stadium in what will be her election year, a source close to the situation said.


“I think they find a way to get Vegas done,” a source close to the situation said, adding that talks may get pushed back until next year because of Sisolak’s “political vulnerability.”


“I think it is the timing issue that makes this difficult,” the source said.


In December, Sisolak told the Nevada Independent newspaper he would not support a hotel room tax to fund a new baseball stadium. That’s after he helped raise $750 million with a $2-a-night tax to build the football stadium for the Las Vegas Raiders that opened in 2020.


Insiders said Sisolak may also be hesitating because of powerful constituent MGM Resorts, which owns nearly 40 percent of all hotel rooms in Sin City, as well as a sizable collection of entertainment spaces that could be threatened by the addition of a 30,000-seat, domed baseball stadium.
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apnews.com

A's break fans' hearts again with Vegas relocation news

OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — Ryan Thibodaux arrived in the Bay Area in 1995 from Texas and instantly became a fan of the Oakland Athletics.
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Oakland A's purchase land in Las Vegas with a deal with Clark County, NV for a proposed stadium.

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Oakland A's purchase land for new stadium in Las Vegas

The Oakland Athletics have signed a binding agreement to purchase land for a new retractable roof ballpark in Las Vegas after being unable to build a new venue in the Bay Area. Team president Dave Kaval said Wednesday night that the team finalized the deal to buy the 49-acre site last week where...
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Y2kTheNewOldies said:
apnews.com

A's break fans' hearts again with Vegas relocation news

OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — Ryan Thibodaux arrived in the Bay Area in 1995 from Texas and instantly became a fan of the Oakland Athletics.
apnews.com apnews.com

Oakland A's purchase land in Las Vegas with a deal with Clark County, NV for a proposed stadium.

apnews.com

Oakland A's purchase land for new stadium in Las Vegas

The Oakland Athletics have signed a binding agreement to purchase land for a new retractable roof ballpark in Las Vegas after being unable to build a new venue in the Bay Area. Team president Dave Kaval said Wednesday night that the team finalized the deal to buy the 49-acre site last week where...
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This new ballpark is supposed to be ready for the 2028 season. Their lease in Oakland expires in '24. The A's are expected to play in the existing minor league park until the new one is ready.

In other words: The Oakland A's are moving after next season, with the blessings of the Commissioners' Office.
 


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