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Official: NBC cancels soap Rumor: GMA to three hours?

Mediafrog+ said:
RALfan said:
Is it me, or are the networks planning on completely ruling morning television and in the process running it into the ground?

It could be worse. What if CBS decided on a third of fourth hour of "The Early Show" ? ;D :eek: :D

Probably more likely is CBS cutting the show to 1 hour, though chances of that are still slim. Nonetheless, WJZ 13/Baltimore, CBS owned, only airs 1 hour of it. I think CBS makes the exception for local news pre-emption in that market, because half the viewing audience or so, can still tune into WUSA 9/D.C., and because Baltimore isn't one of the top market clearances anyways.
 
If Reege retires, all bets are off regarding
what ABC might do. Possibly, too, ABC
could cancel "The View," but I can't see
it (good demographics if nothing else). If
ABC were to cancel one of its soaps, my
money would be on "One Life To Live."
"General Hospital" would then move to 2 PM
(ET), and the affiliates would get back 3 PM.
But I just cannot see ABC changing its daytime
lineup.

If--heaven forbid--CBS adds an hour or more
to "The Early Show," I'll be interested in seeing
how my two CBS affiliates handle it. WFMY
has its three-hour local "Good Morning Show"
from 5-8 AM, followed by "The Early Show" from
8-10, and then Ellen DeGeneres from 10-11, and
she does well in the Triad. And around here, the
CBS soaps dominate the afternoon, so I don't
see WFMY dumping "Guiding Light" at 3 to accommodate
Ellen. WRAL has "The Early Show" from 7-9, followed
by "Dr. Phil," and I can't see him being bumped to 3,
either (RAL already has one soap out of pattern: "The
Young And The Restless" at 4).

However, with so many CBS o&os carrying GL in the
morning, an expanded "Early Show" could be the death
knell for it, rendering the preceding paragraph moot.

But again, ABC has nothing to gain (its affiliates certainly
don't) by an expanded GMA, and I ask again, who watches
"The Early Show" anyway?

I'm not betting the farm on either network's expanding
its morning show.
 
Well it really is about money. It doesn't matter if a program has a high rating if it is costly to buy or hard to advertise. It might be better to simply run a cheaper program that gets less ratings but makes more money.
 
Disney announced at NAPTE in Las Vegas this week that both Regis and Kelly are both re-signed through May......of 2011! That cash cow isn't going anywhere. And that I think puts a lid on any plans for a GMA expansion.
 
mostb1 said:
All NBC O&O's will air it. They clear everything from the network. NBC wouldn't produce the show if it wasn't expecting the majority of its affiliates to air it.
Perhaps you need to re-read what I wrote until you actually comprehend it. All your post did was just solidify what I said. Of course the majority of the NBC stations will take it because most of the NBC affiliates are strugging. ::)

It's quite obvious that ABC is exploring a future beyond "The View" which will soon implode. Without the Donald vs. Rosie controversy this week in the news, overnights have been the lowest in weeks.
Do you have proof that ABC is "exploring" or did you just pull that out of your backside? I am going to guess your backside because ABC is not exploring something else besides "The View." That show imploding is simply wishful thinking among men who are NOT in the demographic of the show. And while you claim the overnights show lower ratings, "The View"'s overall ratings are still significantly higher than a year ago at this time. And that's all that matters. Period. ::)
 
RadioFanBoy said:
Disney announced at NAPTE in Las Vegas this week that both Regis and Kelly are both re-signed through May......of 2011! That cash cow isn't going anywhere. And that I think puts a lid on any plans for a GMA expansion.
He can still retire.
 
There are a couple of factors to consider about why this is happening.

The networks are losing audience to cable channels like Fox and CNN which offer news and information all day long. Shows like Regis & Kelly and the View are also doing well. NBC tries to grab some of that audience with the 3rd hour of Today and is trying to grab more of it with the 4th hour. Also, NBC historically has had a horrible time programming daytime. Today is doing well and can help them keep fix some of those problems.

CBS is strong in the daytime and is unlikely to do much to tinker with it. ABC is fairly strong in daytime and would only do something if they thought they could get the affiliates to give them an extra hour of programming each day. This would also seem to mean an end to Regis & Kelly on the ABC O&Os. That might be a good pre-emptive move considering the age of Regis. I don't think Regis would exactly go quietly into the night. That show does well on lots of different network affiliates.

Fox is jumping into this game somewhat with Monday's debut of "The Morning Show with Mike & Juliet" on their O&O stations. It's a Regis ripoff, but it could work. The real question is whether Fox would syndicate this or make it available on the network.

As for the cancellation of Passions: My Network would be wise to pick it up. I don't know how it would do in prime time, but there's nothing that says they have to air it there either. They could keep it in the same afternoon time slot and start to build a real soap schedule in the daytime to use as a promotional tool for the nightside programming. My Network just needs something that will draw a better audience and Passions would certainly do that. I'm sure the affiliates would be pleased to see it anywhere on the schedule.
 
Just because NBC has horrible daytime programming doesn't mean they'll extend Today into Tonight, same is true for ABC.. We won't see Good Afternoon America. I think Today's 4th hour is pushing it. Here on the Boston ABC station, WCVB, Local News from 5-7, GMA 7-9, Regis & Kelly 9-10, Martha 10-11, The View 11-Noon. I think this is a pretty strong lineup and couldn't see many o&o's with similar schedules wanting to give it up to another hour of GMA, the same may be true for some better off NBC o&o's with Today.
 
bostonmusicman said:
Just because NBC has horrible daytime programming doesn't mean they'll extend Today into Tonight, same is true for ABC.. We won't see Good Afternoon America. I think Today's 4th hour is pushing it. Here on the Boston ABC station, WCVB, Local News from 5-7, GMA 7-9, Regis & Kelly 9-10, Martha 10-11, The View 11-Noon. I think this is a pretty strong lineup and couldn't see many o&o's with similar schedules wanting to give it up to another hour of GMA, the same may be true for some better off NBC o&o's with Today.

I agree. Someone earlier mentioned the possibility of expanding GMA from 6a-9a and jettisoning "America This Morning." Not going to happen. Most ABC affils don't carry ATM anyway, in favor of local newscasts in the 5-7 slot, and they're not going to give that up. Now some CT-zone stations may carry the 4:30am feed of ATM (which is the 5:30ET feed) as a lead-in to their morning 'casts, but most east coast stations simply cover it up with local news.

As for NBC's expanding "Today" to try to siphon viewers from Fox or CNN's morning newscasts...I don't think that's much of a factor, personally. You're comparing two (or in this case three) completely different styles. Straight news and interview on CNN, straight news and opininated talk on Fox....and fluffy light interviews and cooking segments on Today. Yeah, it works with women, but they are watching either "Regis and Kelly" or "Martha" in that slot anyway. So that (CNN/Fox v Today) is an apples and oranges comparison.
 
Re: Official: NBC cancels soap Rumor

Anyway, back to the subject at hand: 'Passions' would probably be better off as My Network TV's first daytime soap than cancelled
 
How about FOX picking up this show and move to their afternoon slot. Lets say the 3-5pm slot. Since 3-5pm slot used to be FOX kids back in the 90's.
 
e-dawg said:
How about FOX picking up this show and move to their afternoon slot. Lets say the 3-5pm slot. Since 3-5pm slot used to be FOX kids back in the 90's.

I don't think Fox will be the new home.
You can better bet that it'll resurface on My Network right after a bunch of gameshows, (at 11) leading into what ever Mytv plans to do for the noon hour, unless gameshows all morning are going to be the "game" plan for Mytv after all... ;D (lol, "game" plan...sorry, I just had to throw that pun in...)
 
Why not just make Passions one of the MyNetworkTV primetime hours? And if NBC goes ahead and dumps Days, MNTV could pick it up as well.
 
tested said:
As for the cancellation of Passions: My Network would be wise to pick it up. I don't know how it would do in prime time, but there's nothing that says they have to air it there either. They could keep it in the same afternoon time slot and start to build a real soap schedule in the daytime to use as a promotional tool for the nightside programming. My Network just needs something that will draw a better audience and Passions would certainly do that. I'm sure the affiliates would be pleased to see it anywhere on the schedule.
I think that is an excellent idea. Perhaps MyNetwork should re-focus and program a 2-hour soap block with "Passions" as its' anchor and give the prime-time back to the affliates. OR program library movies in prime-time M-F, which would most likely yield stronger ratings. Alot stronger.
 
network said:
tested said:
As for the cancellation of Passions: My Network would be wise to pick it up. I don't know how it would do in prime time, but there's nothing that says they have to air it there either. They could keep it in the same afternoon time slot and start to build a real soap schedule in the daytime to use as a promotional tool for the nightside programming. My Network just needs something that will draw a better audience and Passions would certainly do that. I'm sure the affiliates would be pleased to see it anywhere on the schedule.
I think that is an excellent idea. Perhaps MyNetwork should re-focus and program a 2-hour soap block with "Passions" as its' anchor and give the prime-time back to the affliates.
Then they could just merge it into the Fox network. Before hammering out a deal with WZMY, Fox was considering doing something like that in Boston, putting MyNet on its Fox O&O in the afternoon.
 
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