Ok Seattle....

[Robert Biltmore Jennings]

Wow, checking back and folks in the PNW are posting about make believe owning stations and playing fantasy radio? Are things THAT slow up there? From outside looking in here are few starters for ya to kick around.....

Sinclair selling off old Fisher properties...getting closer and closer. Don't be surprised if this summer a MAJOR announcement comes out.

Could another company be looking to move into the market? Nash FM?

Is Ty Bentli headed out West for an AM gig with Hubbard? If not him, who?

KUBE - the once mighty 93.3 has run aground in Elliot Bay. How do you even sort that out? Mornings are a joke.

Seattle is or was a rock town. KISW seems stale and KZOK and KJR are on AARP and know they need to do something as that demo ain't going to be around too much longer...oh wait you added Pearl Jam, ok that's better...

You have some bright talent in the market but will they rise or be given the chance or will the suits and bean counters miss them all together.

And the soon to open PD chair that one fellow programmer will vacating.....

And lastly I wouldn't buy a cluster as I wouldn't want to deal with the cluster fu!K that would be dealing with issues, personalities, and all the other crap. ROI not worth it. Margins are too thin.

 

[Lightingnut]

Wow, checking back and folks in the PNW are posting about make believe owning stations and playing fantasy radio? Are things THAT slow up there? From outside looking in here are few starters for ya to kick around.....

Sinclair selling off old Fisher properties...getting closer and closer. Don't be surprised if this summer a MAJOR announcement comes out.

Could another company be looking to move into the market? Nash FM?

Is Ty Bentli headed out West for an AM gig with Hubbard? If not him, who?

KUBE - the once mighty 93.3 has run aground in Elliot Bay. How do you even sort that out? Mornings are a joke.

Seattle is or was a rock town. KISW seems stale and KZOK and KJR are on AARP and know they need to do something as that demo ain't going to be around too much longer...oh wait you added Pearl Jam, ok that's better...

You have some bright talent in the market but will they rise or be given the chance or will the suits and bean counters miss them all together.

And the soon to open PD chair that one fellow programmer will vacating.....

And lastly I wouldn't buy a cluster as I wouldn't want to deal with the cluster fu!K that would be dealing with issues, personalities, and all the other crap. ROI not worth it. Margins are too thin.

Well, you got it right that Seattle radio is pretty boring. It has become a cookie-cutter radio market, and no one seems to want to do anything unique. About as much fun watching oil paint dry on a winter day... I sure would hope that cloud radio doesn't spread their darkness over this market (Nash can just go away)...that would be no good. Never heard of Ty Bentli...who is he anyway? KUBE has been circling the drain for over 20 years...especially when they dumped their loyal listeners when they switched to hip-hop. KISW is OK, but KJR-FM and KZOK are going to have to reconsider their options. Have you got dirt on Sinclair? Please do tell!

 

[AQH]

Wow, checking back and folks in the PNW are posting about make believe owning stations and playing fantasy radio? Are things THAT slow up there? From outside looking in here are few starters for ya to kick around.....

Sinclair selling off old Fisher properties...getting closer and closer. Don't be surprised if this summer a MAJOR announcement comes out.

Could another company be looking to move into the market? Nash FM?

Is Ty Bentli headed out West for an AM gig with Hubbard? If not him, who?

KUBE - the once mighty 93.3 has run aground in Elliot Bay. How do you even sort that out? Mornings are a joke.

Seattle is or was a rock town. KISW seems stale and KZOK and KJR are on AARP and know they need to do something as that demo ain't going to be around too much longer...oh wait you added Pearl Jam, ok that's better...

You have some bright talent in the market but will they rise or be given the chance or will the suits and bean counters miss them all together.

And the soon to open PD chair that one fellow programmer will vacating.....

And lastly I wouldn't buy a cluster as I wouldn't want to deal with the cluster fu!K that would be dealing with issues, personalities, and all the other crap. ROI not worth it. Margins are too thin.

You left out the DX reports and Kokomo.

 

[bobdavcav]

There's really not much to talk about. Yes I think there is some speculation that Synclaire will sell the radio stations, but what is there to talk about when nothing has actually happened? I did hear about a year or so ago that Cumulus was looking to buy CBS, or at least those radio stations in markets where CBS doesn't own a TV station, Seattle and St. Lewis being two of those. I think that's the only way we'll get a Nash FM here. Who's looking for a PD? As for the KJR playlist it does seem odd to me that they're adding 90s music way ahead of other stations in the format, but it'll probably happen format-wide soon enough. What's odd is that on the Radio Online ratings page, it doesn't even list KJR as havint a Classic Hits format anymore, it lists them as Rock. Jerry Lee has relaunched the AC format on WBEB a couple times over the past 20 years, I think CC shouldn't be afraid to do the same thing with KUBE. From what I've heard, More FM sounds pretty similar to the former B101. I could see KUBE relaunching as WiLd 93.3 Seattle's party station bringing it in line with KBWX and the former format in San Antonio. I don't quite understand why they say "KUBE 93 plays the hits" when Kiss is the hit music station in that cluster? Other than that, I wouldn't consider 98.9 alternative anymore, Katy Perry - Dark Horse is not alternative, but that's how they're listed on Radio Online.

 

[fordranger797]

Unfortunately, there is nothing to talk about in Seattle radio. At least it is somewhat interesting to discuss dx reports, fantasy radio, and transmitter locations to keep the board active. I think a lot of people dislike that there is so much talk about dxing or radio formats instead of discussion about people who work in the Seattle radio industry. I cannot speak for the other people on this board, but I certainly am too young to have any clue who most of the past radio personalities are.

As for NASH-FM, I hope that any speculation that Nash might be coming into Seattle in false. There are two radio formats that we really do not need more of, those being CHR and Country. Although its appropriate to make the argument that only two country music radio stations serve the city of Seattle, a third would still make for overkill. The rim-shots are bad, but they are serving communities that struggle receiving radio from Seattle.

I think KUBE would fair much better if they adopted a format like KHTP and began playing 90's hip hop without the current top 40 hits. That would probably ruin what KHTP has going, but I wouldn't mind seeing seeing that old Mountain signal used for something better regardless. Something will happen with KUBE soon, considering CC now has a hot AC, CHR, and rhythmic CHR all targeting the same market. This is not necessarily bad, but KUBE and KBKS end up overlapping each other too much.

As for rock, KZOK 102.5 is fine. They serve as a "straight up" classic rock radio station, and they do pretty well. KJR is just a copycat that changes every once and a while to chase what is working for other stations in the market, except they always do an awful job. I listened to some KJR the other day and thought that their playlist was as exciting as plain wheat bread. KZOK maintains some level of excitement with their on air talent and decent playlist. I admit, they could improve, but I usually like what I hear when I tune in. I think that KISW maintains such a high rating thanks to their talk programmes. The music is not particularly interesting, but I like then they play some good 80's or 90's rock.

 

[LITTLEBOYBLUE]

FYI ... CBS owns KSTW-11, so they DO have television here. Paramount bought it during that second fiasco when Belo had KIRO then bought Providence Journal which gave them KING and they had to divest KIRO. Cox was in play for KSTW, but with KIRO on the block they stepped up to better property leaving KSTW, which was picked up by Paramount. Then Paramount + CBS merged .... giving CBS, well, you know.

 

[Unregistered]

I did hear about a year or so ago that Cumulus was looking to buy CBS, or at least those radio stations in markets where CBS doesn't own a TV station, Seattle and St. Lewis being two of those.

CBS owns KSTW in Seattle.

 

[fordranger797]

FYI ... CBS owns KSTW-11, so they DO have television here. Paramount bought it during that second fiasco when Belo had KIRO then bought Providence Journal which gave them KING and they had to divest KIRO. Cox was in play for KSTW, but with KIRO on the block they stepped up to better property leaving KSTW, which was picked up by Paramount. Then Paramount + CBS merged .... giving CBS, well, you know.

Does KSTW even have a studio? I find it hard to believe that CBS has equipment to run any local coverage in their Dexter building.

 

[Blatherwatch]

Unfortunately, there is nothing to talk about in Seattle radio. At least it is somewhat interesting to discuss dx reports, fantasy radio, and transmitter locations to keep the board active. I think a lot of people dislike that there is so much talk about dxing or radio formats instead of discussion about people who work in the Seattle radio industry. I cannot speak for the other people on this board, but I certainly am too young to have any clue who most of the past radio personalities are.

As for NASH-FM, I hope that any speculation that Nash might be coming into Seattle in false. There are two radio formats that we really do not need more of, those being CHR and Country. Although its appropriate to make the argument that only two country music radio stations serve the city of Seattle, a third would still make for overkill. The rim-shots are bad, but they are serving communities that struggle receiving radio from Seattle.

I think KUBE would fair much better if they adopted a format like KHTP and began playing 90's hip hop without the current top 40 hits. That would probably ruin what KHTP has going, but I wouldn't mind seeing seeing that old Mountain signal used for something better regardless. Something will happen with KUBE soon, considering CC now has a hot AC, CHR, and rhythmic CHR all targeting the same market. This is not necessarily bad, but KUBE and KBKS end up overlapping each other too much.

As for rock, KZOK 102.5 is fine. They serve as a "straight up" classic rock radio station, and they do pretty well. KJR is just a copycat that changes every once and a while to chase what is working for other stations in the market, except they always do an awful job. I listened to some KJR the other day and thought that their playlist was as exciting as plain wheat bread. KZOK maintains some level of excitement with their on air talent and decent playlist. I admit, they could improve, but I usually like what I hear when I tune in. I think that KISW maintains such a high rating thanks to their talk programmes. The music is not particularly interesting, but I like then they play some good 80's or 90's rock.

I like KZOK, they do the block party weekends twice a month, KGON brought that back too recently. Cumulus finally figured out that they have screwed up royally, look at some of the posts about KGO and offering former hosts a slot, at a pittance at what they used to make. Can Nash come to Seattle without a Cumulus owned station and can they do any better than the other 2 or 3 country stations here?

 

[Bongwater]

Always ironic that CBS owns KSTW but KSTW is CW and not CBS. Guess market longevity on KIRO outtrumped KSTW during their temporary flip to CBS in the '90s. As I remember, CBS ratings REALLY suffered during those years.

I wouldn't count out Nash just yet. I hear it's hot right now. Where they show up is anyones guess. But I have a feeling KMPS, Wolf or not, they will show up here eventually.

KUBE is struggling badly and I don't see it lasting much longer this way. I expect a few changes.

Sinclair IS prepping for a sale of their radio properties. That much is obvious. Will 101.5 become Nash FM? Or Kokomo 101.5?

Stay tuned.....

 

[Blatherwatch]

I'll miss traffic and weather on the 4's

 

[fordranger797]

Always ironic that CBS owns KSTW but KSTW is CW and not CBS. Guess market longevity on KIRO outtrumped KSTW during their temporary flip to CBS in the '90s. As I remember, CBS ratings REALLY suffered during those years.

I wouldn't count out Nash just yet. I hear it's hot right now. Where they show up is anyones guess. But I have a feeling KMPS, Wolf or not, they will show up here eventually.

KUBE is struggling badly and I don't see it lasting much longer this way. I expect a few changes.

Sinclair IS prepping for a sale of their radio properties. That much is obvious. Will 101.5 become Nash FM? Or Kokomo 101.5?

Stay tuned.....

Here is an idea... Think about the flip that recently happened on KANY. Do you think there is any chance that 93.7 could potentially be the new home of NASH without Cumulous touching other stations in the market?

 

[placebo1969]

You left out the DX reports and Kokomo.

For all the joking about that, I actually heard Kokomo on KJR over the long weekend. I had a little chuckle before turning to another station.

 

[AQH]

Will 101.5 become Nash FM? Or Kokomo 101.5?

Anyone with access to detailed PPM results knows there is no way anyone would tinker with Star 101.5.

 

[AQH]

For all the joking about that, I actually heard Kokomo on KJR over the long weekend. I had a little chuckle before turning to another station.

It was played a few times over the weekend, I'm surprised this board didn't go nuclear over it.

 

[fordranger797]

You left out the DX reports and Kokomo.

The dx reports are pretty interesting.

 

[Robert Biltmore Jennings]

Doesn't take a rocket scientist, a GM, or even a board op to figure that KPLZ wouldn't get changed too much when sold. However when that does happen what's the plan to replace K and A...gonna have to address that at some point. Bigger question is who buys them... A: Bonneville? They would benefit big time with these properties and could fit real nice with what they have here. B: Hubbard ? Maybe ok but doubtful. Not sure they know what they have now so adding more to the mix could only convolute things. C: for Cumulus? Hum... Not in the market, could snatch up some prime sticks with solid #s a market leader in KPLZ and oh yeah an FM stick that is under utilized and be a home for NASH can you 93.7 Nash FM ya'all

What will be real interesting is when CBS decides to bring AMP on air in Seattle.....

 

[AQH]

Doesn't take a rocket scientist, a GM, or even a board op to figure that KPLZ wouldn't get changed too much when sold. However when that does happen what's the plan to replace K and A...gonna have to address that at some point.

There are regulars on this board who likely think Robin & Maynard would do better than Kent & Alan.

What will be real interesting is when CBS decides to bring AMP on air in Seattle.....

CBS going on the CHR offensive in Seattle is an unlikely prospect. Remember, they gave up on Kiss 106.1. They aren't going to let go of KZOK or KMPS anytime soon, and the margins on Jack are too good to let go.

 

[AQH]

The dx reports are pretty interesting.

For some, but not people who make a living in radio. There is a huge difference in content here versus others. Go to the NYC or LA boards, they're all talking about programming or ownership issues, not DX reports.

 

[Bongwater]

For some, but not people who make a living in radio. There is a huge difference in content here versus others. Go to the NYC or LA boards, they're all talking about programming or ownership issues, not DX reports.

We TRIED talking about programming AQH. But somehow some people (yourself included) get defensive when we criticize what we hear. We bring up possible format scenarios and quickly get shot down ("That will never work" or something to that effect.) And now you COMPLAIN that we're not talking about programming? So what are we supposed to do then? Stroke every PD's ego while pretending to love this ridiculously cookie-cutter radio market?

So if no one listens and no one cares what we have to say, what else is there to talk about here besides the latest DX catches and Kokomo?