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OKAY ITS OFFCIAL NOW JV BACK AT 94.9!!!

sfradio said:
x100 is coming back with chr music

X-100 was on 99.7 and is currently owned by CBS, which is rumored to be switching a station in New York and L.A. to ... CHR.

You may have been tongue-in-cheekin' it, but it may not be preposterous -- right now, a lot of radio execs are thinking "change or die."
 
BossRadioDJ said:
sfradio said:
x100 is coming back with chr music

X-100 was on 99.7 and is currently owned by CBS, which is rumored to be switching a station in New York and L.A. to ... CHR.

You may have been tongue-in-cheekin' it, but it may not be preposterous -- right now, a lot of radio execs are thinking "change or die."
movin is already sort of a chr already with kelly clarkson, lady gaga and britney spears, all they need is a name change
 
kinetic said:
Clear Channel is in dire financial straits, perhaps on the brink of bankruptcy. The layoffs last month are part of a "process," meaning more layoffs are coming, perhaps sooner than we think. No offense to JV but it's sort of a who got fired so he could get hired question. You wonder what many former Bay Area Clear Channel employees must be thinking. I don't know if it's fair but I wonder if it's worth it. If you idolize JV, as it appears some of you on this thread do, I'm not sure you can answer that question fairly. I wish JV luck, but it seems almost bittersweet.

Thats an odd way to think about it. Last month I "laid off" a guy that just punched the clock and didnt care much about my company. And due to so many people losing their jobs, I hired one of the best machinists out there for the same amount. Ohh yeah, Im in manufacturing.

One upside to slow economy is that dead weight are being replaced with employees that make a difference.

Different fields.. But same concept.
 
kinetic said:
Clear Channel is in dire financial straits, perhaps on the brink of bankruptcy. The layoffs last month are part of a "process," meaning more layoffs are coming, perhaps sooner than we think. No offense to JV but it's sort of a who got fired so he could get hired question. You wonder what many former Bay Area Clear Channel employees must be thinking. I don't know if it's fair but I wonder if it's worth it. If you idolize JV, as it appears some of you on this thread do, I'm not sure you can answer that question fairly. I wish JV luck, but it seems almost bittersweet.

Very good point, companies in every industry make these tough decisions during tough times. Bittersweet is a fair word, lets hope for the clear channel employees let go that brining in some talent will create money to re-hire... or at least avoid the further layoffs.......... Time will tell.
 
bay area baller said:
kinetic said:
Clear Channel is in dire financial straits, perhaps on the brink of bankruptcy. The layoffs last month are part of a "process," meaning more layoffs are coming, perhaps sooner than we think. No offense to JV but it's sort of a who got fired so he could get hired question. You wonder what many former Bay Area Clear Channel employees must be thinking. I don't know if it's fair but I wonder if it's worth it. If you idolize JV, as it appears some of you on this thread do, I'm not sure you can answer that question fairly. I wish JV luck, but it seems almost bittersweet.

Thats an odd way to think about it. Last month I "laid off" a guy that just punched the clock and didnt care much about my company. And due to so many people losing their jobs, I hired one of the best machinists out there for the same amount. Ohh yeah, Im in manufacturing.

One upside to slow economy is that dead weight are being replaced with employees that make a difference.

Different fields.. But same concept.

Hiring the best person for the job is an excellent concept in good times and bad times. That's what Clear Channel thinks its doing...regardless of the economy. JV has name recognition and unless he performs poorly, will bring in a bigger audience for Wild. It especially makes sense if they're entering into a head-to-head competition with MOViN.

I'm sure they're paying JV more than the fill-in guy, but I'll bet he's getting a lot less money than he did a few years ago.

CC may be the heart-less Satan of radio, and it sounds like they've handled the lay-offs insensitively (to say the least) in some markets. But the economic reality is - layoffs are necessary in this economy now for many companies to survive.

I work in a public sector agency where people have relative job security...basically you have to be totally incompetent to be laid off during a good economy. But I guarantee there will be layofffs this coming year where I work.
 
bay area baller
Last month I "laid off" a guy that just punched the clock and didnt care much about my company. And due to so many people losing their jobs, I hired one of the best machinists out there for the same amount. Ohh yeah, Im in manufacturing.
One upside to slow economy is that dead weight are being replaced with employees that make a difference.

jestin
clear channel employees let go that brining in some talent will create money to re-hire... or at least avoid the further layoffs.......... Time will tell.

Lkeller
Hiring the best person for the job is an excellent concept in good times and bad times. That's what Clear Channel thinks its doing...regardless of the economy. JV has name recognition and unless he performs poorly, will bring in a bigger audience for Wild. It especially makes sense if they're entering into a head-to-head competition with MOViN.
I'm sure they're paying JV more than the fill-in guy, but I'll bet he's getting a lot less money than he did a few years ago.
CC may be the heart-less Satan of radio, and it sounds like they've handled the lay-offs insensitively (to say the least) in some markets. But the economic reality is - layoffs are necessary in this economy now for many companies to survive.
I work in a public sector agency where people have relative job security...basically you have to be totally incompetent to be laid off during a good economy. But I guarantee there will be layofffs this coming year where I work.



I could be wrong but there seems to be an assumption in these responses that the people who got laid off were of lesser caliber. I have no idea how good they were at their jobs so I can't say one way or the other but as anyone in radio knows, you can get fired whether you're good or bad at your job. It's hard to imagine the dozens of people Clear Channel fired in this state were all bad employees but I can't help wondering if there were some shell games played with budgets in the Bay Area to say, "Hey, if we fire enough people here, we can hire JV there!" That's a lousy way to do things --the insensitivity Keller mentioned. Look, if JV is good, and he certainly has equity in this market, hire him irrespective of budgets elsewhere. Like Keller said, hiring the best person for the job is an excellent concept regardless of the economy.
And it's never a good idea to hire anyone who's dead weight, good times or bad. When Baller says he laid off a guy who "just punched the clock," the first question that comes to mind is, "Why did he get hired in the first place?" Were there that many careless hires because times were good?
When you're in a situation where the money is good and things are good, you have a tendency to get a bit reckless about the present and you tend to pay less attention to what's going to happen in the future. Why does it take a slow economoy to figure out you hired dead weight. Maybe we should be firing the people who hired that dead weight. Hope that's not you!
Cutting jobs is a tough call fraught with risk. It rarely makes up for the loss of revenue and while it's an easy answer, it's also short-sighted because you risk completely destroying your operation to the point where your product deteriorates and you lose customers, or in radio's case, listeners (same difference, really). It's a lot harder to get that product back than to get the revenue back. The Doghouse is a perfect case in point; Wild has never been the same after they dumped the Doghouse. Did they save money on all those hefty salaries? Maybe for a while. Now they've got a dogs*** station and even worse, they've fallen behind. Radio has fallen behind.
In the years the industry has cut short term losses and diminished and devalued the product, other music choices like iPods and online platforms came to prominence. We like to say in radio that the industry adopted a business model that destroyed its farm system for up-and-coming announcers. Have they done that for their listeners, too? It's not a scientific survey but I can't tell you how many times I've run into some high school or college-aged guy who hasn't listened to the radio in years, or maybe has never listened. At the same time radio stopped giving them a reason to listen, other options became more attractive.
It invites another question: Can JV reverse that for Wild? What level of achievement, what goal would he have to reach, to call his return successful? They say you can't go home again. Can he? And will that generate enough revenue to re-hire the ones who were laid off?
 
kinetic said:
lkeller
Hiring the best person for the job is an excellent concept in good times and bad times. That's what Clear Channel thinks its doing...regardless of the economy. JV has name recognition and unless he performs poorly, will bring in a bigger audience for Wild. It especially makes sense if they're entering into a head-to-head competition with MOViN.
I'm sure they're paying JV more than the fill-in guy, but I'll bet he's getting a lot less money than he did a few years ago.
CC may be the heart-less Satan of radio, and it sounds like they've handled the lay-offs insensitively (to say the least) in some markets. But the economic reality is - layoffs are necessary in this economy now for many companies to survive.
I work in a public sector agency where people have relative job security...basically you have to be totally incompetent to be laid off during a good economy. But I guarantee there will be layofffs this coming year where I work.[/i]


I could be wrong but there seems to be an assumption in these responses that the people who got laid off were of lesser caliber. I have no idea how good they were at their jobs so I can't say one way or the other but as anyone in radio knows, you can get fired whether you're good or bad at your job. It's hard to imagine the dozens of people Clear Channel fired in this state were all bad employees but I can't help wondering if there were some shell games played with budgets in the Bay Area to say, "Hey, if we fire enough people here, we can hire JV there!" That's a lousy way to do things --the insensitivity Keller mentioned. Look, if JV is good, and he certainly has equity in this market, hire him irrespective of budgets elsewhere. Like Keller said, hiring the best person for the job is an excellent concept regardless of the economy.
And it's never a good idea to hire anyone who's dead weight, good times or bad. When Baller says he laid off a guy who "just punched the clock," the first question that comes to mind is, "Why did he get hired in the first place?" Were there that many careless hires because times were good?
When you're in a situation where the money is good and things are good, you have a tendency to get a bit reckless about the present and you tend to pay less attention to what's going to happen in the future. Why does it take a slow economoy to figure out you hired dead weight. Maybe we should be firing the people who hired that dead weight. Hope that's not you!
Cutting jobs is a tough call fraught with risk. It rarely makes up for the loss of revenue and while it's an easy answer, it's also short-sighted because you risk completely destroying your operation to the point where your product deteriorates and you lose customers, or in radio's case, listeners (same difference, really). It's a lot harder to get that product back than to get the revenue back. The Doghouse is a perfect case in point; Wild has never been the same after they dumped the Doghouse. Did they save money on all those hefty salaries? Maybe for a while. Now they've got a dogs*** station and even worse, they've fallen behind. Radio has fallen behind.
In the years the industry has cut short term losses and diminished and devalued the product, other music choices like iPods and online platforms came to prominence. We like to say in radio that the industry adopted a business model that destroyed its farm system for up-and-coming announcers. Have they done that for their listeners, too? It's not a scientific survey but I can't tell you how many times I've run into some high school or college-aged guy who hasn't listened to the radio in years, or maybe has never listened. At the same time radio stopped giving them a reason to listen, other options became more attractive.
It invites another question: Can JV reverse that for Wild? What level of achievement, what goal would he have to reach, to call his return successful? They say you can't go home again. Can he? And will that generate enough revenue to re-hire the ones who were laid off?

Wonderful POST and so true, the company i work for laid off several people last week. It is NEVER easy to make those decsions. I agree a "Clock Puncher" should get released regardless of economy..... doing so would allow for savings during these tough times.... It is up to Managment to make the decisions and it is rare that the decsion made is liked by most.

Reading you post i feel that maybe you were released from your job? If so I am truly sorry you sound like a caring dedicated guy. In our companies case the ship was sinking, it was eather jump (Layoff) or everyone fold up. You are correct when we go to re-hire those lost it will cost more than the savings today, however we couldn't rehire people tomorrow if we didn't fix the ship.

Who knows if JV will create the needed revenue to bring back lost jobs, however we do know continuing to falter was not going to work, this might not work either. Of course JV could fall on his face.... I think it is good for him to "go home" and the family be a WHOLE new group of people..... and his "partners" will not be by his side. He will have to change to fit it......

Good luck to him, and everyone that is suffering in these hard times.
 
You'll need to look hard to find a bigger Dog House fan than me, but there are a few things that concern me with JV coming back. He noted on his blog post...(DogHouseFm.Com) that it's just him with a new girl, presumably the midday chick and a producer that spins a few CDs in the mornings right now.

How will the fans that were with him back in the Wild days react to a brand new show? There are going to be callers that will continuously ask for Elvis and Hollywood to be back. What do they do when someone calls in and rips the new people?

He also mentioned he is going to be playing music, something the Dog House really never did...

I'll definitely be listening, but will the common person?
 
Kinetic - Very well said. I probably didn't say it well, but I wasn't implying that the people laid off in radio were of lesser caliber. I used the comparison to the public sector agency where I work to make the point that layoffs are inevitable in all industries and government right now...there's just no way around it. Businesses have to cut costs or become insolvent. If you can't cut your debt payments or your energy costs, you have to cut people. Labor is the single biggest cost for most businesses.

And yes - layoffs have a steep cost to the companies that have to let people go, make-do with inadequate staffing for a period of time, and then bring qualified workers back later when the economy improves. Our GM has been quoted numerous times as saying that our layoffs in 03 (following the "dot-bomb" bust) cost the company more money than they saved in the long run. The problem is - businesses have to pay the energy bill, the rent, and service their debt in the short run.
 
Lkeller said:
And yes - layoffs have a steep cost to the companies that have to let people go, make-do with inadequate staffing for a period of time, and then bring qualified workers back later when the economy improves. Our GM has been quoted numerous times as saying that our layoffs in 03 (following the "dot-bomb" bust) cost the company more money than they saved in the long run. The problem is - businesses have to pay the energy bill, the rent, and service their debt in the short run.


Of course... absolutely, but this is part of a bigger problem. Broadcasters really need to look at how they've been doing business. They have to look what they've doing from an operational standpoint, how to deal with the advertising side of it and how to deal with multiple platforms. At the moment, I don't think they're prepared to do this because the large operators are just trying to keep their heads above water. This is the price business people pay when they do a bad job running their business. The moment the focus on radio moved from sustainable growth to maximizing quarterly profits and making investors happy at any cost, programming, particularly local programming, went from being a vital cog to a necessary evil to a disposable item. Serving the public interest (as mandated by a radio license) went from being a requirement to an elective. Instead, they're servicing debt loads --crushing debt loads.
I don't have all the facts on this story so correct me if I'm wrong, but it does illustrate the point: When CBS bought a cluster of radio stations in Denver several years ago, they thought they were getting a deal: One of those stations --just one-- was purchased for $100 million in 2000. Here, a couple of years later, it's part of a cluster of five stations and CBS is buying it all for $85 million. Whatta deal! They just sold the whole kit and kaboodle to someone else. Price: $19 million. That's stunning. Your GM would shake his head in disbelief.
Maybe that kind of fire sale is coming and big operators will simply have to unload hard assets to service their debt --at a loss, probably. Or declare Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
When that happens, the industry may be able to move forward. There's a paradigm shift underway here and I'm not sure anyone in broadcasting knows what that will be or what it should be. Certainly, what it is right now ain't successful.

WordLife asks a good question about old fans visiting a new show, about callers "continuously ask for Elvis and Hollywood to be back."
Will the common person be listening? Maybe the question we oughtta ask first is who the common person is? What is Wild's audience, how much of it left when the Doghouse left, will it ever come back? I can't say that if anyone can do it, JV can --I not convinced of that. I'm convinced he's far better than what they had, but is that enough? FM radio isn't just competing with itself; it's competing with all sorts of options from iPods to Pandora. And it's competing with its own mistakes --ignoring the rise of these new platforms at the same time big operators made bad decisions and ran the business into the ground.
I wonder if a lot of the people who might've come to the station in the years the Doghouse was gone just went elsewhere and don't even listen to radio? Not that I wanna get ahead of anything here, but what happens if JV doesn't work, what does a station like Wild do? Considering all the music choices available, particularly for people who have no good reason to listen to music radio, that's a very discomforting question.
 
sfradio said:
BossRadioDJ said:
sfradio said:
x100 is coming back with chr music

X-100 was on 99.7 and is currently owned by CBS, which is rumored to be switching a station in New York and L.A. to ... CHR.

You may have been tongue-in-cheekin' it, but it may not be preposterous -- right now, a lot of radio execs are thinking "change or die."

movin is already sort of a chr already with kelly clarkson, lady gaga and britney spears, all they need is a name change

Sidebar: CBS just flipped their Dallas "Movin" station to "Mega"...
 
BossRadioDJ said:
sfradio said:
BossRadioDJ said:
sfradio said:
x100 is coming back with chr music

X-100 was on 99.7 and is currently owned by CBS, which is rumored to be switching a station in New York and L.A. to ... CHR.

You may have been tongue-in-cheekin' it, but it may not be preposterous -- right now, a lot of radio execs are thinking "change or die."

movin is already sort of a chr already with kelly clarkson, lady gaga and britney spears, all they need is a name change

Sidebar: CBS just flipped their Dallas "Movin" station to "Mega"...

Is that "Mega," or MEgA?"
 
on another side note DJ Leslie Perez has made the move to movin 99.7, ahhh finally compelling radio is back to the bay area, reminds me of kmel vs. wild 107 back in the day
 
sfradio said:
on another side note DJ Leslie Perez has made the move to movin 99.7, ahhh finally compelling radio is back to the bay area, reminds me of kmel vs. wild 107 back in the day

now movin is gonna sound more like wild use to be.

movin is the best!
 
you cant recapture lost magic, its been too long
dont think enough people will even care.
vinne returned to alice, and thier ratings still suck.
sure people will listen in the beginning out of curiosity
but it wont last.
 
punkdj said:
you cant recapture lost magic, its been too long
dont think enough people will even care.
vinne returned to alice, and thier ratings still suck.
sure people will listen in the beginning out of curiosity
but it wont last.

A shitty morning show and a shitty on air personality like Vinnie shouldn't even be compared to what JV has or is doing...JV has a proven track record and it will take time for his loyal fans to adjust to the new show, but I think they will stick with the show along with new listeners...Will the ratings ever be like the old days...maybe not...but you can't compare radio of today to the 90's...
 
stevet819 said:
punkdj said:
you cant recapture lost magic, its been too long
dont think enough people will even care.
vinne returned to alice, and thier ratings still suck.
sure people will listen in the beginning out of curiosity
but it wont last.

A shitty morning show and a shitty on air personality like Vinnie shouldn't even be compared to what JV has or is doing...JV has a proven track record and it will take time for his loyal fans to adjust to the new show, but I think they will stick with the show along with new listeners...Will the ratings ever be like the old days...maybe not...but you can't compare radio of today to the 90's...

alice bringing back vinnie isnt the only time that this has happened, in fact i havent seen one jock from the past brought back and actually been successful.
yes, JV is way better than sarah and vinnie, my point was that people move on. they find something else.
and keep in mind... the doghouse was let go for a reason, they werent what they where at one time, and thier ratings were falling at the time they were let go.
(and this time there is no elvis, )
as far as comparing radio to the 90's... not doing that, radio is completely differnt now which is why these shows that are brought back allmost always fail.
 
punkdj said:
alice bringing back vinnie isnt the only time that this has happened, in fact i havent seen one jock from the past brought back and actually been successful.
yes, JV is way better than sarah and vinnie, my point was that people move on. they find something else.
and keep in mind... the doghouse was let go for a reason, they werent what they where at one time, and thier ratings were falling at the time they were let go.
(and this time there is no elvis, )
as far as comparing radio to the 90's... not doing that, radio is completely differnt now which is why these shows that are brought back allmost always fail.


We shall see, it will be interesting in months to see the landscap
 
Word Life said:
Don't forget Bob Fitzgerald back at KNBR...

Another good reason to drop in a few sports talk calls to KNBR when the Giants season starts up in April, along with Mychal Urban & Ray Woodson.
 
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