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- Thread starter ultravox
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I was hoping that maybe a few of the old DJs could start their own part-time
radio station, just like the ones in Cleveland Ohio did a year ago.
It could be DJs like:
>Tommy Edwards
>Larry Lujack
>Ron Smith
>Tom Murphy
It could be half music and half talk. In other words Variety Format....
radio station, just like the ones in Cleveland Ohio did a year ago.
It could be DJs like:
>Tommy Edwards
>Larry Lujack
>Ron Smith
>Tom Murphy
It could be half music and half talk. In other words Variety Format....
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tjthedj
Guest
I hope it become some "new Chicago immigrant" format, Vietnamese or Arab of some flavor. Prior to WVON it was WHFC, a foreign language station.
WHFC -- began in 1926 at the Hotel Flanders in Chicago. They would soon be squeezed into a share-time situation, with 5 stations on 1310 at its worst. In 1930, they, with WEHS and WKBI, were allowed to move to 1420, leaving WCLS and WKBB on 1310. WHFC bought out the other two in 1936, also moving to Cicero. They were shifted to 1450 in 1941. Bought by Chess Records in 1963, turning it into WVON.
WHFC -- began in 1926 at the Hotel Flanders in Chicago. They would soon be squeezed into a share-time situation, with 5 stations on 1310 at its worst. In 1930, they, with WEHS and WKBI, were allowed to move to 1420, leaving WCLS and WKBB on 1310. WHFC bought out the other two in 1936, also moving to Cicero. They were shifted to 1450 in 1941. Bought by Chess Records in 1963, turning it into WVON.
tjthedj said:
You're beginning to get on my nerves! Every time I make a post or reply on a post whenever I have a geat brainstorm idea, YOU! always butting in and you're always putting my great ideas down!. Please! I Beg Of You! Stop Hounding Me!!!
If you want Arab, Vietnamese, programing or any other foreign language station,
there a divice called: "shortwave radio" in which it can be purchase at any Radio Shack store, I have five of them all made by Elon' from Grundig.
Besides we have way too many foreign immigrant radio stations here in Chicago Anyway and most of them are Illegal immigrants, especially on the AM dial
these ethnic radio station are over crowding the AM band!
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Anyacat
Guest
Well, Grandpa Squirrel, I thought you had a great idea...for what it's worth
Anyacat said:
Thank you kindly! Anyacat!
At least I get some respect out of my great ideas, even for what it's worth too!!!...
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tjthedj
Guest
Hey grandpa,
With all due respect....
Sorry, but I've done all this stuff a long time ago so I know about so called "great ideas."
Nobody is "hounding"you.
Are you aware that tis is a free country and I can say almost whatever I want? Your ideas may be good, but they are OLD and not very original. There are MANY books and LISTS of old programs and their syndicators. Channel 25 knows about them all.
This kind of board is to comment and talk about this kind of stuff. Thats what I was doing.
By the way, shortwave has been DEADER than nostalgia radio for quite some time. Even the religiouis broadcasters don't use it as much.
If your "great ideas" are so great, I would encourage you to tell a RADIO STATION and SELL somebody on doing what it is you ask (also like you "old rerun" tv program ideas) and not a bunch of people HERE that can't help you accomplish anything but co-miserate.
In the LATE 1960's I sent channel 26 a list of old shows to put on. I was as frustrated as you.
Bruce Newton, the program director there invited me for a visit, and that led to 2 years of "internship" there with Two Ton Baker, Jack Mulqueen, Bob Lewandowski and others. It was beyond my wildest dreams.
I stirred two ton Baker's BOSCO on camera during Corral 26 nearly every day for 2 years. I got lots of on the job training.
About your suggestions (and the ones I sent too); They already know about those programs, anyway. It's their job.
I had a great radio and tv career, including ownership, finiding some frequencies, dj, management, ownership and much more. I really wish you success, so don't be a bitch.
Music to a dying demographic is not a good idea anymore, unless you've got money to burn. Programs for people who NEED them always do well. Find out who Ed Jacker is. He (is now deceased) but taught me what I know about that.
With all due respect....
Sorry, but I've done all this stuff a long time ago so I know about so called "great ideas."
Nobody is "hounding"you.
Are you aware that tis is a free country and I can say almost whatever I want? Your ideas may be good, but they are OLD and not very original. There are MANY books and LISTS of old programs and their syndicators. Channel 25 knows about them all.
This kind of board is to comment and talk about this kind of stuff. Thats what I was doing.
By the way, shortwave has been DEADER than nostalgia radio for quite some time. Even the religiouis broadcasters don't use it as much.
If your "great ideas" are so great, I would encourage you to tell a RADIO STATION and SELL somebody on doing what it is you ask (also like you "old rerun" tv program ideas) and not a bunch of people HERE that can't help you accomplish anything but co-miserate.
In the LATE 1960's I sent channel 26 a list of old shows to put on. I was as frustrated as you.
Bruce Newton, the program director there invited me for a visit, and that led to 2 years of "internship" there with Two Ton Baker, Jack Mulqueen, Bob Lewandowski and others. It was beyond my wildest dreams.
I stirred two ton Baker's BOSCO on camera during Corral 26 nearly every day for 2 years. I got lots of on the job training.
About your suggestions (and the ones I sent too); They already know about those programs, anyway. It's their job.
I had a great radio and tv career, including ownership, finiding some frequencies, dj, management, ownership and much more. I really wish you success, so don't be a bitch.
Music to a dying demographic is not a good idea anymore, unless you've got money to burn. Programs for people who NEED them always do well. Find out who Ed Jacker is. He (is now deceased) but taught me what I know about that.
I just don't get these rantings about "foreign" language broadcasts.
I am part Czech, German and Polish and 63. I was raised in a household where I heard radio programs in all of those languages. I can remember my grandmother listening to Lydia Puchinska and the National Bohemian Hour on WEDC.
I suppose to some that is kind of violation of a sort of "nationalism" that is so common today. Oh yes, my Czech grandfather was an illegal alien. He walked across the border from Canada and took up residence in Chicago with his brother who was legal. His grandchildren and great grandchildren have grown to become successful folks (one of whom was an elected official of some note).
Personally, I find foreign language broadcasts demonstrates the diversity of our society and that we still are a melting pot.
I celebrate my heritage and wish all who live in this great land would do the same. I think a station that caters to the new immigrants would be cool. By the way, WSBC and WCEV is currently doing a little of that.
Too bad some can't feel the "love".
Bruce
I am part Czech, German and Polish and 63. I was raised in a household where I heard radio programs in all of those languages. I can remember my grandmother listening to Lydia Puchinska and the National Bohemian Hour on WEDC.
I suppose to some that is kind of violation of a sort of "nationalism" that is so common today. Oh yes, my Czech grandfather was an illegal alien. He walked across the border from Canada and took up residence in Chicago with his brother who was legal. His grandchildren and great grandchildren have grown to become successful folks (one of whom was an elected official of some note).
Personally, I find foreign language broadcasts demonstrates the diversity of our society and that we still are a melting pot.
I celebrate my heritage and wish all who live in this great land would do the same. I think a station that caters to the new immigrants would be cool. By the way, WSBC and WCEV is currently doing a little of that.
Too bad some can't feel the "love".
Bruce
I agree with tjthedj and b344077, that there should be more
ethnic radio stations I would like to see Jewish programs as well
for Aribic languages, because There a great population of Jewish
people in Evenston, Skokie, Wheeling and Buffalo Grove as well for
the Muslims people in greater Chicagoland area who speaks the
Arabic language.
There isn't any ethnic radio station in Chicago for Jewish & Muslim People.
So why can't Chicago start one now???...
ethnic radio stations I would like to see Jewish programs as well
for Aribic languages, because There a great population of Jewish
people in Evenston, Skokie, Wheeling and Buffalo Grove as well for
the Muslims people in greater Chicagoland area who speaks the
Arabic language.
There isn't any ethnic radio station in Chicago for Jewish & Muslim People.
So why can't Chicago start one now???...
GrampaSquirrel said:
For what it's worth, you did hijack the thread.
Quite frankly, I'd like to know what's on 1450 now. I assume WEVC has the frequency all to themselves and is probably brokering out programming.
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tjthedj
Guest
Hijack? I'm not stopping anyone from saying anything. You wanna see "hijack", look at what 954 does and look at the "off the air" board. I would NEVER touch the stuff.
Right now, it seems that WVON is simulcasting on 1450 and 1690 during their hours on 1450. The WRLL calls have been transferred to 1450 and Feder said today that Midway will probably lease their time to someone else (why they don't just sell their end of 1450 to the Migalas and let WCEV go 24-hours, I don't know, unless the Migalas don't feel they could run a 24/7 station).
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tjthedj
Guest
Migala's are very astute people. Dealt with them a few times. I knew "daddy" Joe and daughter Lucina. It would sure be a great opportunity for them. Does WCEV originate from Belmont and Long or do they use 3350 S. Kedzie?
tjthedj said:
Sorry. I was talking to Grampa Squirrel. Your post was a little more on-topic. And, as usual, he went off on another racist rant.
And I wholeheartedly agree about the "Off The Air" board. Somebody really needs to push the flush lever in there!
You guys are idiots!
Midway Broadcasting owns the 15 hours. The other station owns nine. Why in the hell would Midway sell those hours when the other owners would not sell the nine to them?
So cool it with some of this nonsense. Midway now has two stations - 1450 and 1690. Why in the world would they sell? That's bad business.
Midway Broadcasting owns the 15 hours. The other station owns nine. Why in the hell would Midway sell those hours when the other owners would not sell the nine to them?
So cool it with some of this nonsense. Midway now has two stations - 1450 and 1690. Why in the world would they sell? That's bad business.
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tjthedj
Guest
Hey Prince, WHO is "you guys?"
Whats with the name calling?
Can't you speak intelligently? You certainly don't know ANYONES motives in this. People buy and sell all the time. Money talks.
Whats with the name calling?
Can't you speak intelligently? You certainly don't know ANYONES motives in this. People buy and sell all the time. Money talks.
Unfourtantly Radio and Tv stations don't care what you want to hear or see. They only want what the advertisers want because thats what makes them money. In feders colum today he says oldies get good ratings but advertisers dont want that so off it goes . WJMK a perfect example. What i want is old time radio or big band on this station but of course that doesnt make money. Oh well more ethnic crap.
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Anyacat
Guest
Basically, the format makes money but not enough money, although I am sure that there is never enough profit for some. I'm pretty tired of hearing that as a consumer, my choices make no difference because of my age (although the Coach leather people seem to appreciate me). It's not advertisers who are making the decisions, it's corporations who now own the airwaves. This is what happens when an industry is divided among a few large corporations.ultravox said:
princerocks said:
Neither the Spann family (Midway) nor the Migalas own any such thing! The airwaves belong to the American public. A broadcaster is granted a licence to use those airwaves as a public trustee in a fashion which serves the public interest. As for the "why sell" question, as a businessperson for 30+ years, I can envision a number of scenarios where it might make good sense for Midway to sell their licence or set up some sort of LMA. I can also envision a number of scenarios where they might want to hang on to what they have.
Let me put it to you this way. I've known the Spann family (very indirectly) since 1978. They have a history of turning someone else's trash into treasure. They're very sharp people, and I sure wouldn't bet against whatever they decide to do!
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