I'm sure a lot of people will disagree but i cannot find too many advantages to digital boxes. As far as "sound"? give me a optimod 8100a/ original texar prizms/card 5 and a couple other black boxes i used with the optiomod/texar, i'll put it up against any digital processor. It's warmer, holds levels better/more depth. Yeah Digital can do all those things (almost) but it sure cost alot more and there's no delay to annoy the jock despite what Optimod claims.The 8100a with xt 2000 sounded pretty damn good too. I'm not saying analog is the ANSER especially the way the industry is going, but if you're strapped for cash and not in a Digital world yet, maybe the above combination will work.There must be a reason why those old vintage processors are still being used in most production houses and surprisingly radio stations still today. They SOUND good!
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I for one was a big fan of the original Texar Prisms and and Optimod together...you couldn't beat that sound anywhere with any box. It's too bad that you can't achieve that same sound with the newer boxes...
It all depends on what you're looking for...I love the 8100 and am amazed at the sound you can still get out of them.... 25 years... yes 25 
since it was introduced. While I do not think the clipper is as clean as what you can get in digital processors, there is something to be said about the warmth and depth of these processors. Orban has kept alot of that with his newer processors. While I do love the sound of the other non-Orban digital processors (and some can sound like you're listening off a disc), there is something about the multiband section of Orban processors that even today retains some of that analog punch you found in the older boxes. Some of my favorite older units include the SEP 400/800 from CRL, the Orban 422/424 compressor limiter, the Texar Prisms (even though they kinda act more like active EQ's than AGC/Compressors at times). Orban once said he doesn't feel nostalgic or look back on the "good old days" with his older stuff, which is sad considering what great accomplishments they were (and still are).
since it was introduced. While I do not think the clipper is as clean as what you can get in digital processors, there is something to be said about the warmth and depth of these processors. Orban has kept alot of that with his newer processors. While I do love the sound of the other non-Orban digital processors (and some can sound like you're listening off a disc), there is something about the multiband section of Orban processors that even today retains some of that analog punch you found in the older boxes. Some of my favorite older units include the SEP 400/800 from CRL, the Orban 422/424 compressor limiter, the Texar Prisms (even though they kinda act more like active EQ's than AGC/Compressors at times). Orban once said he doesn't feel nostalgic or look back on the "good old days" with his older stuff, which is sad considering what great accomplishments they were (and still are).WGILRADIO,Couldn't have said it better myself. Good comments!You're correct about the Prizm's. They sure did sparkle up that 8100a! I loved the 8100a's limiter. Solid as a brick! However when you put the CARD 5 in with the Texar's it lossed some of that great limiting.At one station i programmed my chain was:Valley 610 Compressor/limiter/gate out of board going into Texar Prizm's into 8100a IT SMOKED! I'd put it up against ANY digital processor today! Plus had a la-4a Urei Com/Limiter on mic.
All help is appreciated. I looked through previous posts and didn't see one like this, so I apologize if it is a dupe.If you are looking at "tricking out" your current 8100, another option is to add an Orban 222A spatial enhancer to widen out the sound. I do happen to have one (surprise). I will sell it for $570 including shipping in the lower 48. On EBay there is one that at last count was way over $600 before shipping. I'll even take PayPal so we both get some protection. 662 983 0709
If you also wanna send it to the Netherlands (europe) I'm very interested. Can pay with paypal also. Please let me know. [email protected]NE Miss Radio said:
i have a Orban 222A in mint condition.that i will unload for 500.00 plus shipping.don,'t need it since i have spatial enhancement in the processor..it really perks up a signal, gives a wide band stereo effect.they have been used in front of orban 8100's and omnia 3's. contact off board if [email protected] had a major market eng tell me he ran the 222a with a compellor in front of a O3T, sounded as good as the 10k boxes...
Damn.. Entered the wrong email adress.. the one above isn't active anymore.My email : [email protected]marcelker said:
I actually use a Modulation Sciences Stereomaxx in front of my Omnia 3fmt, and it sounds wide, open, and clean. I use it on my Hot Country station.
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I'd like to find out about doing a demo with the DSPx processor, since I have room for choice, and time to choose.Who is the best person to contact? Is Scott a contact?
contact Broadcasters General Store in Ocala FL for a demo.ask for Dave...make sure it has the new 2.8 software.you'll like it...
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Let me know if you have any problems getting a demo through the distribution chain and I will get you sorted. We are offering a special upgrade from DSPX to DSPXtra this month for only $1000, saving $2000 over the normal cost.Best regardsScottmarker102 said:
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Scott, please contact me off list: [email protected]hanksscottdspx said:
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I am in the process of getting demos on some of the processors out there, but I thought I'd let everyone know my shocking revelation that Omnia does not offer demo units of their processors. My distributer had to eat up the cost of one for the sake of me demo-ing it. Now, that it has to go back, Omnia is going to slap them with a large restocking fee for returning it. I may end up getting it, I may not, but either way I made my distributer shell out the cost for something that I should be able to demo, without obligation.Very shocking....
I can answer this...All of our dealers have signed agreements, with our company, which state that they must stock a demo unit. It is their obligation to do this, in order to carry the productline. They already agreed to this beforehand. Thus, it is not really shocking at all. BTW: It is common for dealers to stock demo gear of just about all manufacturers. This is not unique to our company. If we sold the product direct, then it would make sense for us to demo the units ourselves. This method is not new, nor is it out of line with how broadcast equipment is demo'd and sold.If your dealer is having a challenge, have him call us directly, and we will get it sorted out. It's not rocket science.marker102 said:
-Frank FotiIf testing the DSPXtra make sure you have V2 software loaded in to it. I know that some dealers have been demo'ing our boxes with pre v1 software in ??? ??? ??? V2 has a different tonal texture to V1 releases and bass is significantly improved.marker102 said:
Expect a 2.1 release shortly once we get a little time to work on refining the presets further.Best regardsScottIt is my opinion that he said it in the sense that he thinks their later designs were all better than 8100, an improvements, and he doesn't feel nostalgic about it because their newer processors sound and perform better. I would agree with you that 8200 was not better (soniclly) than 8100/XT2, but with 8400 (especially v3 software) they got it to the point where their digital processors were better than analog. But I'm sure Bob takes great pride in what 8100 was and what it accomplished. Regards,Goran Tomaswgliradio said:
I received a totally different vibe reading it. I think he recognizes the accomplishments, but I have a feeling, for some reason, that he would rather move on; whihc is fine. Orban has done a good job of supporting legacy gear (with the exception of the 9000.. but you can't help that when parts are no longer produced).
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