Phoenix Gets Head To Head Local-Live Progressive Talk In AM Drive

[fred flintstone]

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Goyette Returning To KFNX/PhoenixVeteran PHOENIX talker CHARLES GOYETTE, displaced when KXXT-A dropped its liberal talk lineup in favor of Religion, has found a new home, and it's one of his previous homes, Talk KFNX-A. GOYETTE, who has worked at KTAR-A and KFYI-A in the PHOENIX market, will take over mornings at the station effective JUNE 19, bumping incumbent morning host JOHN DAYL to SATURDAYS and SUNDAYS 8-10p.

Goyette is up against fellow liberal talker (and KXXT alumnus) Mike Newcomb, now heard on 1480 KPHX. KPHX is an LMA financed through a "Save Air America" fund raising campaign plus an infusion of cash from the Drobnys. Newcomb did evenings on KXXT. Newcomb's program on KPHX airs in place of Jerry Springer. The station otherwise takes the AAR network feed with the addition of Peter B. Collins in overnights. However, the station website announces KPHX is adding Thom Hartmann (details forthcoming - they already take Best of Hartmann on the AAR network feed on weekends) and Mark Maron'a late night program.Goyette, meanwhile, may be a fish out of water on 1100 KFNX, with a hodge-podge and apparently largely brokered schedule the rest of the day. The station also airs Michael Savage in late PM drive. Otherwise the line-up is mostly a mixed bag of financial and health advice extended infomercials in a line-up that says "bottom-feeder." Goyette is a talented broadcaster and a true class act and he deserves better. It is unfortunate for everyone concerned - most especially the audience - that "Doctor Newcomb" did not see fit to find a place for Goyette on KPHX. Part of me welcomes another market with a choice for progressive talk listeners; part of me hopes Goyette kicks Newcomb's butt. Despite being hobbled with an incompatible line-up on KFNX the rest of the day, Goyette has a signal with better coverage of the Phoenix metro. And he is the better know radio name in the market.Listen and Judge for Yourself Starting Monday:Charles Goyette (9 am - 12 pm EDT):mms://64.156.2.22:443/kfnx/24Mike Newcomb (9am - 12 pm EDT):mms://wm3.spacialnet.com/novamradio55700

 

[Scribbler]

Goyette isn't a liberal; he's a libertarian. There's a big difference. Not many liberals write for the American Conservative. Charles Goyette, known for his antiwar banter and libertarian views, is returning to KFNX News Talk Radio 1100.(snip)Goyette has been interviewed by newspapers and radio stations around the world and addressed national audiences on MSNBC and The O'Reilly Factor. His articles have been published in the East Valley Tribune and The American Conservative. He currently is working on a book about politics.

 

[buster2]

Right you are, Scribbler. Goyette is anti-war, but is not a reflexive liberal at all. His problem is that he finds a subject - such as the war - and talks it to death. He did it at KFYI with a number of local issues. It's not so much that his positions are ill-conceived (though I think some of his have been), but his problem is that he won't give the audience a respite from that subject to consider other topics. That's talk radio death.As for KFNX, it is a bottom feeder, big time. No numbers, lots of brokered snake-oil salesmen. Their signal is better than KPHX, but in the daytime, most listeners probably can't tell the difference. Both signals are nightmares after dark.

 

[Legend City]

Goyette is also a local joke, going from KFYI to KFNX to KXXT and back to KFNX in a 2 year period of time. (he also was at KTAR)His career and credibility have plummeted and he keeps going to lesser and lesser stations with fewer and fewer listeners. I'm guessing he is buying time on KFNX now, as its our local "Green tea [EDIT] informercial" station.[EDIT-graphic]

 

[fred flintstone]

The main difference between libertarians (aka classical or Jeffersonian liberals) and progressive or social democrat liberals is the latter think the government can make things better. Libertarians think the government can be trusted to screw things up and make things worse. They would agree with Will Rogers that every problem started as the solution to some other problem. But both libertarians and liberals pretty much agree on what the problems are.Charles Goyette did morning drive on Phoenix's original progressive talk station, KXXT, which was building an audience when the owners sold out to religious broadcasters. Mike Newcomb, in contrast, did evenings when hardly anybody is listening. KXXT operated as a real commercial radio station - attracting listeners and selling spots - NOT begging listeners for money and taking donations from the Drobnys.Alternatively, you have "Doctor" Mike Newcomb, a Philadelphia quack who has gotten rich off medicare. It is unfortunate that Mike Wallace no longer is kicking down the doors of medicare clinics and retirement homes looking for medicare fraud.Hopefully, KFNX will pick up KXXT's former station manager, and run a competing progressive talk station (like Sacramento, Buffalo and Monterey) and kick "Doctor" Newcomb's butt all the way back to Philly.

 

[PHX-AZ-Listener~]

Goyette is also a local joke, going from KFYI to KFNX to KXXT and back to KFNX in a 2 year period of time. (he also was at KTAR)His career and credibility have plummeted and he keeps going to lesser and lesser stations with fewer and fewer listeners. I'm guessing he is buying time on KFNX now, as its our local "Green tea [EDIT] informercial" station.[EDIT-graphic]

I doubt Charles is buying air-time. (John Dayl was not.) I live in Phoenix and do not consider him a joke. He is a class act!Yes, it is kind of sad that the only station Charles can go on these days is a station like KFNX. BUT at least that is something! At least he is on the air----where he belongs.If I were him, I would try to find another market....But I understand that he has a young kid living in Arizona......It kind of makes it hard to leave.

 

[Scribbler]

Bierkenstock/mwebster/nwebster/merriamwebster/skyeye/fredflintstone wrote:Alternatively, you have "Doctor" Mike Newcomb, a Philadelphia quack who has gotten rich off medicare. It is unfortunate that Mike Wallace no longer is kicking down the doors of medicare clinics and retirement homes looking for medicare fraud.Hopefully, KFNX will pick up KXXT's former station manager, and run a competing progressive talk station (like Sacramento, Buffalo and Monterey) and kick "Doctor" Newcomb's butt all the way back to Philly.Huh? Newcomb went to a good, accredited medical school in Philadelphia and then did his residency at the University of Arizona Hospital and has practiced in Arizona since then. How does that make him a "Philadelphia quack?" And "medicare fraud?" What are you talking about? Please back up your charge with some substance. I've been listening to KPHX for the past few days and it sounds like a professional operation to me, with lots of local commericals and good production. And I've heard no "begging," on or off the Mike Newcomb show. And why the quotes around "Doctor?" The guy is a licensed, accredited physician.

 

[fred flintstone]

Scrib, you are getting predictable.Yes I changed my name every time Lance banned me. If you look to your left, you will see a list (posted there just for you). Yet, you keep coming back to that as if it had some relevance to the content of my post. You must not have much confidence in your own arguements if you keep resorting to ad hominum attacks.You must have liked your last post so much you put it up twice. :-XYou present youself as a liberal and yet you glorify the medical profession. The medical establishment is one of the leading forces of conservatism in this country. I think about them every time I mail in my heath insurance premium, which keeps going through the roof since the AMA and their allies in the insurance and pharmaceutical industry killed health care reform.Taxpayer dollars helped put Newcomb through medical school but he spends all his time dabbling in politics and radio and being CEO of his nursing home companies (plural). I see no indication in his self-promotion pieces that he actually practices medicine. Yet he still insists on flaunting his so-called "doctorate" as he works in areas that have nothing to do with medicine. What is it about MDs (but not PhDs) that they feel the need to rub everybody's nose in their titles, even when they are making dinner reservations or ordering pizza?I made no charges. Newcomb operates businesses in a field in which medicare fraud occurs. I only said I wish Mike Wallace was still investigating in this area. I was curious how Newcomb would handle on of Mike Wallace's famed "ambush interviews." Newcomb and his group "Save Air America Phoenix" launched a begathon when KXXT was sold to raise money for an LMA on another station. I hope I have provided enough substance in this post for you to respond to. However, it seems you prefer some hosts; I prefer others. I don't admire AAR's method of operation and you apparently do. Different strokes. I don't see how any of that calls for attack. If you like Newcomb, keep listening.

 

[Scribbler]

Scrib, you are getting predictable.Yes I changed my name every time Lance banned me. If you look to your left, you will see a list (posted there just for you). Yet, you keep coming back to that as if it had some relevance to the content of my post. You must not have much confidence in your own arguements if you keep resorting to ad hominum attacks.You must have liked your last post so much you put it up twice. You present youself as a liberal and yet you glorify the medical profession. The medical establishment is one of the leading forces of conservatism in this country. I think about them every time I mail in my heath insurance premium, which keeps going through the roof since the AMA and their allies in the insurance and pharmaceutical industry killed health care reform.Taxpayer dollars helped put Newcomb through medical school but he spends all his time dabbling in politics and radio and being CEO of his nursing home companies (plural). I see no indication in his self-promotion pieces that he actually practices medicine. Yet he still insists on flaunting his so-called "doctorate" as he works in areas that have nothing to do with medicine. What is it about MDs (but not PhDs) that they feel the need to rub everybody's nose in their titles, even when they are making dinner reservations or ordering pizza?I made no charges. Newcomb operates businesses in a field in which medicare fraud occurs. I only said I wish Mike Wallace was still investigating in this area. I was curious how Newcomb would handle on of Mike Wallace's famed "ambush interviews." Newcomb and his group "Save Air America Phoenix" launched a begathon when KXXT was sold to raise money for an LMA on another station. I hope I have provided enough substance in this post for you to respond to. However, it seems you prefer some hosts; I prefer others. I don't admire AAR's method of operation and you apparently do. Different strokes. I don't see how any of that calls for attack. If you like Newcomb, keep listening.

You're"predictable" yourself (as are Brian Maloney, Bill O'Reilly, and the New York Post). If it has anything to do with Air America, it's by definition "bad radio," failing," etc.I don't "admire" AAR's "method of operation" -- it's still a work in progress and if I was running it I'd make some changes. But all you do is attack, atttack, attack anything to do with Air America and anybody associated with it. And addressing you by (some) of the names that have led to your being banned from this board is hardly an "attack." On the other hand, there were reasons why you were banned. It seems to me that coming back under new names, after being banned under the old ones, is grounds for being banned again.And where did I "glorify the medical establishment?" I merely pointed out that Newcomb has been an Arizona physician since his residency days, which hardly qualifies him for the term "Philadelphia hack." Where did you get that description, from the Arizona equivalent of O'Reilly or the NY Post?And you strongly implied that Newcomb is guilty of Medicare fraud, without a shred of evidence. I've listened to Newcomb for the past couple of days and have never heard him refer to himself as "Doctor," and the show is called "The Mike Newcomb Show," not "The Doctor Mike Newcomb Show." However, he did say that he would discuss both politics and medical matters. What's wrong with that?

 

[fred flintstone]

Dear Scribbler:I was banned after I sent an email to Lance protesting his removal of some posts (not mine). And, yes, he considered coming back under a new name as grounds for being banned again. Fortunately, this board and Lance's new board are not enforcing old bans.It is not accurate to say that all I do is attack AAR. If you will check, I have seen improvement in some areas and said so. But you are out of line to lump my criticisms with the politically motivated attacks of Maloney and O'Reilly (two people I abhor, by the way). John Mainelli is an experienced radio programmer but I don't think that reporting unfavorable news about AAR or criticizing AAR constitutes an attack. It should be clear from my posts that I do want the progressive talk format to succeed, unlike Maloney and O'Reilly. Too many people lump AAR and the progressive talk format together and if AAR screws up, the format is invalidated. And at the risk of you calling this another attack on AAR, I do have a problem with the idea of amateurs who arrogantly presume they know more than people who have spent their careers in radio and can start up and run a radio operation better than radio people. If there is an edge to my comments about AAR, that's where it comes from.I would be interested in reading the things you would change at AAR. If Newcomb is doing a medical show, than reference to his medical credentials is appropriate. If he is doing political talk, I say it is pretentious and not relevant.

 

[Legend City]

Evidently, I can't say "Green Tea *****"

So, for those of you wondering what ***** means.

It means being clean inside and out, really clean.

and the edited graphic was ;D

 

[fred flintstone]

Curious. Some of the local boards include frequent reference to colon cleanse infomercials which show up on the weekend schedules of some stations in the area - including talk stations. The audience for talk radio mostly disappears on the weekends so many stations resort to infomercials to pick up some easy cash. Some even play music - Oldies or wall-to-wall Sinatra (the latter, I understand, is brokered).

Even some of the more successful talk outlets turn into bottom-feeders on the weekends.
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[ajhenderson]

you're right, they should be forced to lose money to air shows you like.