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Possible Format

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I have the secret to two possibly great radio formats-It involves every type of music being played...(not jack fm)...instead you mix the songs based on the b.p.m.'s(beats per minute). For example you could mix Salt N'Pepper's Push it with AC/DC's shook me all night long. It in essence would be a free format in a way another possible mix would be Earth Wind & Fire's Let's Groove with Outkast's Hey Ya. Get the point...maybe I'm crazy but it could work.

Another one would be a showtunes from musicals format(most likely for an AM). The reason I say this is because I recently took a look at the back of a box for an XM receiver. There is a channel devoted entirely to showtunes from musicals. It might be as good as any other AM in the market but it shows creativity. Lets face it there are many musicals (phantom, les Miz, sunset boulevard, and oklahoma) to name a few. But I think if someone tried it it would be creative and an experiment worth trying...
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> I have the secret to two possibly great radio formats-It
> involves every type of music being played...(not jack
> fm)...instead you mix the songs based on the b.p.m.'s(beats
> per minute).

Interesting... I'd have to actually hear it though, rather than just read about it. Still, the way commercial radio is run today, I'm not sure if anyone would ever try it. Sounds like the kind of thing that would require either a manual DJ to "crossfade" at the right time, or set up some kind of automation that can pitch the songs at the right points, so the BPM matches from one song to the next.

> Another one would be a showtunes from musicals format(most
> likely for an AM). The reason I say this is because I
> recently took a look at the back of a box for an XM
> receiver. There is a channel devoted entirely to showtunes
> from musicals.

There is also a "Music Choice" channel for this on digital cable. (It's possible that the XM feed could be the same thing.) Definitely an interesting idea, not sure why it hasn't been tried yet. Would be interesting to see how it might do as a "specialty show" for a few hours on the weekend, on a station that's already a MOYL affiliate, perphaps.

Of course, we could then go a little further and ask for a station to play the tunes from this generation's "big productions," a.k.a. movies and video games. How about the full theme from Back to the Future, Star Wars or Jurassic Park, followed by an orchestral medley of Super Mario Bros., Zelda, or Final Fantasy? Strange as it may sound, there have been successful sales of concert tickets and CD's where full orchestras have played this kind of music. Look around on any of the file-sharing services, you'll find it all.
 
Most songs or labels let a station know how many B.P.M.'s a song has for example look at a promo only cd. It comes with that. All a person would have to do is make a playlist where the musical change is within 15 bpm's of each. They can do liners between songs say if they wanted to do commercialsor switch pace. Most segue editors on an automation system could handle it I would say
 
> Most songs or labels let a station know how many B.P.M.'s a
> song has for example look at a promo only cd. It comes with
> that. All a person would have to do is make a playlist where
> the musical change is within 15 bpm's of each. They can do
> liners between songs say if they wanted to do commercialsor
> switch pace. Most segue editors on an automation system
> could handle it I would say

Almost any decent DJ software will match BPM regardless of the song format. Most of them will even detect the BPM, so you don't have to input that information. I use OTS Turntables, which does all this and more. It can crossfade better than I ever could.
 
Thumpa-thumpa-thumpa-thumpa

Your BPM format works if you're in a club and setting up a groove to keep cranked-up and/or ecstacy-besotted dancers on the floor until they're exhausted. Otherwise, what's the point?

Most radio stations vary tempos purposely to include a much wider variety of musical styles which typically appeals to a much wider audience.

Perhaps you could sell it as a Saturday night party show, but I doubt that it would work as a normal format.

As far as show tunes are concerned, I'm not part of any demographic that would find them attractive. I also don't go ga-ga over Cher or Barbra Streisand.
 
Re: Rox is Dumba-Dumba-Dumba-Dumba

Were sorry about lame, un-creative, pompus mean people like Sircoxalot. Someone that is bigger market will come along to the board.
>>>The beat matching format is a good thought. Two major humps to get over. Finding the 12" disks that havent been beat to hell (including paying for them), and making sure the right people are in place. It took me a few weeks to get the beat matching thing down at SAMS in 1985. I wouldnt want anyone to experience my training mixes again. And certainly can hear the listeners tuning out at the first seg from several part timers and dealing with it for every new on-air worker that comes along. The staff would have to be very good, and in place. Lets just put it that way. My retro-80's dance tunes station would be a killer, but i only have a handful of people i would trust with it. Cha-ching.
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Oceans Apart

Your grasp of successful radio programming is almost as firm as your grasp of the current technology. If I were programming in Syracuse, I know exactly what my reaction would be when your "retro-80's dance tunes station" hit the airwaves. Your roster of has-been '80s club jocks would command a similar amount of respect.

To be called "dumb" by you is a badge of honor that I shall wear proudly.

PS - As has been documented here before, I AM from a larger market, dumbass. I spent time in CNY earlier in my career, and still have friends in the area whom I visit often. Unlike some mullet-headed has-beens, I was actually SUCCESSFUL, and moved on to several larger markets over the years, where I have also been blessed with very good numbers and greater responsibility. I am forced to post under a pseudonym because posting on a message board is frowned upon by the company I work for.
 
Re: OK Cox

Since you consider even being in radio, unless its satellite or internet hobby these days, sucessful. Take some advice from someone that has a fine job, and should probably be the one in your position whether he wants to be or not. This "been there, tried that" attitude is what has made Radio so ***YAWN FRIGGIN YAWN FOR YEARS*** borrrrrrring. Take a slice of advice for all of us that are listning now, it is the PERSON who is doing it, not the idea itself. Stern will be sucessful because it's Stern. Trust it, me and my friends could put together a very nice 80's retro station in Syracuse. And if youre in east podunk, why are you spreading so much hate here! Sounds rather rubber roomish to Brian. You and Biggus sit next to each other dont you. Stop trying to get me in trouble through my ip address, stop being mean to everyone that posts normal/positive things here and try to go talk to your kids/parents/neighbors or something. Maybe you will make some friends. Talk to them, not down to them. People make the entire differance, i hope youre not in any influecial position, because you seem like the type of person that couldnt form a crowd if they wanted to. Or you gotta buy one or something. People with money, and natural abilities to talk and like other humans combined. Are the ones you will make money, easily, from. There is a good percentage of stations around here that could use a few.....that my friend. Is overly obvious. Some stations in this area havent hired, and kept the right people for years. You would make easy competetion for me.<P ID="signature">______________
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OK, Richard-less

Good God, man, will you LISTEN to yourself? You blather on and on about what a terrific talent you are, and what a broadcasting genius, yet you have shown us NOTHING!

No demo. No stream. No visible or audio evidence of past success, let alone current capability. Not a SINGLE workable idea for a format that is new or novel, or would be remotely successful in the REAL world.

"Stern is successful because he is Stern." As they say in one of your favorite commercials, "BRILLIANT!". The converse is also true. B.O. is UNSUCCESSFUL because HE IS B.O.

We have one point of agreement. There is some BAD radio in Syracuse. I have the "opportunity" to listen to Syracuse radio on a fairly regular basis. Some of it ain't pretty. 95X is an absolute mess. K-Rock's audio is horrible, but at least Petibone has them believing in what they do, has targeted a specific audience, and has instilled some attitude, even if creativity is lacking (ex. Lunch Pail).

You, on the other hand, have shown us NOTHING.

So, here's my proposal:

PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

You have a website or two. Post a demo. Give us a taste. Demonstrate your "natural abilities to talk and like other humans combined."

Otherwise, you're just expounding noxious gas from your intestinal tract, and the smell reaches all the way to "Podunk".

PS - Talking about yourself in the third person ain't exactly "normal".
 
Re: No, but you like Cox

This is a web board, theres no such thing as put up or shut up here. Would love to see someone with the ability, and guts to just look at a guy like me and say...go ahead. In the normal world there is no such thing as put up until a couple years of books have passed, but hell. Like we both said, there are a ton of stations that could use a killer morning show. Im not taunting myself as the greatest, though i may be. If i were on "the Dog" per say in the morning. I know it would beat Gomez and Dave with a bullet. That would be a fair scenario. Better yet, 107.9. Either way, showing you much...here...would be foolish. Maybe in the office of someone who can write checks, i have given you enough education on this public web board. How you take it...is up to the plasma between your ears. I wont leave my current job for radio but would like some boat cash. After the numbers come in? Thats when you nay-sayers will really have to take a back seat. I will only be hired by people that have the cash, and know of me. Thats how i want it. There are plenty of people that know of my ups and downs in the radio business, its been 10 years, i have a very familliar voice and style to the public, and i have my own kids now which forces me to be way more responsible. Cox, you have sooo many reasons to blow me off and i dont mind that obviously. But how about a good, real reason. Was it something i said, or did when i was employed around here? Im not giving you my demo here and my phone number is on my postings. Yes, i can shut the vonage 866 number off. <P ID="signature">______________
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Actually, I'm not really into Cox...

...I hear they're not the most exciting radio group to work for.

Brian, you are so far out of touch with the realities of radio in the year 2006 that it's laughable. Do you realize that the current owners have generally leveraged the stations they own to the max, and that those stations HAVE to make MONEY in order to pay off the money borrowed for the station purchase as well as operating expenses?

> In the normal world there is no such thing as put up until a
> couple years of books have passed

A COUPLE of YEARS? I what alternate universe? In the real world, the PD and/or GM in Syracuse who hired an unproven talent for morning drive would find themselves jobless when corporate got wind of it.

> Im not taunting myself as the greatest...

I am. I'm taunting you as the greatest. Really.

> If i were on "the Dog" per say in the morning. I
> know it would beat Gomez and Dave with a bullet.

You know so, huh? Based on what empirical evidence? Show us a shred of evidence that you have the chops to deliver a morning show in market #77. C'mon, B.O., give us a taste. Just 60 seconds of your brilliance to blow us away with your immense creativity and talent. A minute of your time won't reveal enough of your "sekrit" plan that these other hacks can steal your schtick. Heck, they couldn't execute it anyway, right? EVERYBODY here wants a taste. You've got websites. Give us a sample. I'm not even asking for you to demonstrate the consistancy needed for the 300 day per year grind that is morning radio. I'm asking for a minute of your time.

> I wont leave my current job for radio but would like some boat
> cash. After the numbers come in? Thats when you nay-sayers will
> really have to take a back seat.

So, you're looking for a freakin' HOBBY? A guy with no demonstrable track record wants to do morning drive in market #77 on a station that's leveraged to the hilt AS A HOBBY. BTW, he won't be available for production, remotes, and other personal appearances because he'll be WORKING HIS OTHER JOB. Seriously, would YOU hire YOU?

> There are plenty of people that know of my ups and downs in
> the radio business, its been 10 years

Apparently there are still enough people in the radio business who remember you after 10 years, which is why you remain unemployed.

> i have my own kids now which forces me to be way more responsible.

These "radio guys" have their own kids too, which forces them to be way more responsible. BTW, does Social Services know you have kids? I only pray that their mother has custody.

> Cox, you have sooo many reasons to blow me off

Soooo many...

> But how about a good, real reason. Was it something i said,
> or did when i was employed around here?

I don't remember you when you were employed around Syracuse. That's how much of an impression you've left with "radio" people, let alone "real" people.

> Im not giving you my demo here and my phone number is on my postings.

This ain't a 1-on-1, B.O. I'm not personally interested in you or your career. I do find your rantings so preposterous that they make me laugh out loud. Really. LOL. And I want others to share in the hilarity. That's the kind of guy I am - a sharing kind of guy who wants to put a smile on EVERYONE'S face. Oh, BTW, that ain't a sexual reference, so don't bother with the adolescent response.
 
Right...you know everything *YAWN*

Just to let them know. The subject of this thread is a good one. I would be very intersted in making your station a ton of makeup money on your 80's retro station as a hobby. More live remotes than your salesman have ever seen. Tons of interest in what were doing, you dont need to hear my golden toned voice to know thats a winning idea. Im a fine employee, that doesnt take himself or anyone so seriously that he/she has to discourage people on a web board from three states away, or from a living room in Cazenovia (wink, wink), or even worse, from a Studio on someone elses payroll. Im just typing on a webboard from Lakeport, and you know who i am. Sir Rox, whomever you are, i hope you can be happy one day. I just spilled ice cream all over my big fat stomache, but ill walk right over to the minimart and hover over the freezer deciding which flavor half gallon i want today, turn around and buy a box of doughnuts to sprinkle on top of it and Hell, maybe my arteries will freeze up solid while im trying to walk to my woody minivan. I wont be able type then neither...boooya for Roxalot. But while im still there watching the beach bunnies walk by in the summer, i will know that if someone brings a mic to me, and my jaw loosens up enough, i will still be able to bring one of the crap signals in CNY out of the ratings toilet, if i could only talk. Ill dream of those bikinis but will also be dreaming of leaving the station daily at 11am for my other job knowing there are more people listening than many of the other stations...and yes, that i will be confident about a good radio job today. Fine idea that oldies 80's station. My second favorite after a 70's station done correctly. If anyone could use pulling out of the ratings dumper, in radio, feel free to phone me. I can keep the troops straight too.<P ID="signature">______________
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The final (reasonable) word

Your fatuity is only exceeded by your ignorance.

And yes, I know I'm talking above your head.
 
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