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Pow-wow: Ronnie Duncan's WERE show

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Let me state first and foremost, this will not be a political post. To make it so would require this to be about 45-times longer than otherwise to refute some of Duncan's misguided opinions and observances. To call them base racism and pandering race-baiting is being kind.

Ok, now, onto the "radio" aspect of the show as a whole.

1. General sound: WERE needs to turn the bass down just a tad bit. This has been a recurring problem at WERE for a few years. Just modulating too much in the lower frequencies. A tab bit down would be wonderful.

2. Duncan's now bad; he's not great, but not bad. There have definitely been worse air personalities in this town. He's not by any means a prime AM drive personality, and needs much more practice to get there.

3. I forgot how deep Gregg Anthony's voice is. Good heavens.

4. What is with the trend (hopefully just a passing fad) of having board operators/engineers/producers on mike nowadays? Marty Allen, Scott "Scooter" Reese, and even Duncan has a horrible-voiced producer chime in every so often. As we all surely understand, there's a place for producers and a place for hosts. Most producers/board operators know more about the system's interactions (especially with computers) than jocks do. Jocks, hate to say it, normally have a good voice and an entertaining talent which got them the on-air gig. Some people have both, and those ones tend to run their own boards.

But this trend/fad of putting the producer on air has to stop, please. For the love of my ears--I can see why these guys aren't jocks. Horrible, horrible voices, diction, resonance, etc. they can handle the show, run it like a well-oiled machine, and fix any computer or sound problem that comes along like wizards! But please...no more voice work.

5. Duncan has this habit in the 8.00 hour of "recapping" what happened on the show. But it's a bit disjointed, and he tries to summarize points in an interview that surely were alot more elaborate than Duncan's short shrift gives them. And, I'm not entirely certain his summary is accurate. But whatever.

6. Traffic is provided by Ravenna Miceli, from Metro.

7. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to listen to a newscast. However, during the course of the show, Gregg Anthony is almost a "co-host" with Duncan: ala, Wills and Coleman--Wills is the lead, but Casey Coleman does more than just sports updates. So it is with Duncan and Anthony.

That's all that comes to mind now. Probably more critiques to come as I listen more.

<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Johnny Morgan on 02/03/06 03:15 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Do you Remember Greg Anthony, when he did the news (I think) it was on G-98? He used to mispronounce George Forbes name as JORBES FORGE?? I have airchecks! LOL!!!

> 3. I forgot how deep Gregg Anthony's voice is. Good
> heavens.
>
 
> 4. What is with the trend (hopefully just a passing fad) of
> having board operators/engineers/producers on mike nowadays?
> Marty Allen, Scott "Scooter" Reese, and even Duncan has a
> horrible-voiced producer chime in every so often. As we all
> surely understand, there's a place for producers and a place
> for hosts. Most producers/board operators know more about
> the system's interactions (especially with computers) than
> jocks do. Jocks, hate to say it, normally have a good voice
> and an entertaining talent which got them the on-air gig.
> Some people have both, and those ones tend to run their own
> boards.
>

As far as this goes, a lot of hosts these days feel like they need a sidekick to trade banter with on the air.

It's almost a lazy way to fill airspace, it's like they don't feel as though they themselves can keep the conversation going, so they shoot the breeze with their producer/sidekick.

Also, having a sidekick/producer kind of makes the host feel like he is the captain of the ship leading his crew.
 
Pow-wow on WERE in general...

Here's some observations of WERE in general:

1. WERE's new imaging voice is Jeff Davis - who also does great imaging for WLS/Chicago and WSB/Atlanta.

2. Anyone else but me and OA notice that WERE is calling themselves "News/Talk 1300 WERE-AM: The People's Station"? What will "News/Talk 1420 WHK" do? ;D

3. I thought that Ronnie's show was to be from 6a-10a, not ending at 9a. But, truth be told, on came the horrible "Roex Hour" infomercial in the 9a hour. Apparently they weren't able to run out the contract just yet, but that's not good news by throwing away an hour in morning drive.

4. Oh, wow. The "American Advisor," which is WORSE than "Roex," got canned. It couldn't have been done soon enough. And for those three people who cared, tune to WHK/1420 at midnight.

5. Apparently, the evening hours will be just brokered programming. But the overnights and evening gaps without a show are still filled in with piped-in USA Radio content. How long does THAT last?

6. Julie Washington wrote about some displaced shows on WERE that had to "scramble" onto other stations. The head-scratcher: Joe Kocab's "Czech Voice of Cleveland" moves to WHK/1420 on Sunday afternoons, reuniting him, in essence, with Jerry Quinn. (Both Joe and Jerry once did their ethnic shows on the old WRMR/850.) Is this a sign of things to come at WHK?

7. WERE finally updated their schedule to reflect the changes. No pictures yet, but it confirms that WERE and WHK are airing the same exact infomercial "Heathline with Dr. Bob Marshall" at the same exact time. Hell's freezing over.

8. Their morning sportscaster is one Matt Smith - who, IIRC, hosted "SportsRap" a popular brokered sports show on WERE that aired evenings at 11p. Purported, it moved to the 10p hour, with a new host. I can't confirm it, because of WERE's super-spotty night signal. (And I live in Avon.)

9. WERE and WENZ share the same morning and afternoon traffic announcers. At least WERE lets Ravenna use her name, but on WENZ she has to use a different name and basically call herself, IIRC, "The Hip-Hop Chick." Pray that those who listen to WENZ DIDN'T listen to WMJI in the early 90's.

10. Not WERE related, but anyone noticed that Metro traffic/newscaster "Dru Davidson" on sister station WZAK/93.1 and "Chris Coleman" of WHK/1420 are the same person?

11. WOIO/19 meterologist Martina Brown is supplying weather forcasts.

That's it for now. We'll see where Radio One intends to take WERE in the coming weeks.

- Nathan Obral
 
Re: Pow-wow: Ted Hallamoan

> Do you Remember Greg Anthony, when he did the news (I think)
> it was on G-98? He used to mispronounce George Forbes name
> as JORBES FORGE?? I have airchecks! LOL!!!
>
> > 3. I forgot how deep Gregg Anthony's voice is. Good
> > heavens.
> >
>
I have not been able to listen to the "new" WERE yet. I assume Tall Ted is gone. That poor guy can't get a break.
 
Re: Pow-wow on WERE in general...

>
> 11. WOIO/19 meterologist Martina Brown is supplying weather
> forcasts.
>

Her name's Markina. And she's pretty fine.
 
Re: Pow-wow on WERE in general...

> >
> > 11. WOIO/19 meterologist Martina Brown is supplying
> weather
> > forcasts.
> >
>
> Her name's Markina. And she's pretty fine.
>

My bad.

- Nathan Obral
 
Re: Pow-wow: Ted Hallamoan

> > Do you Remember Greg Anthony, when he did the news (I
> think)
> > it was on G-98? He used to mispronounce George Forbes name
>
> > as JORBES FORGE?? I have airchecks! LOL!!!
> >
> > > 3. I forgot how deep Gregg Anthony's voice is. Good
> > > heavens.
> > >
> >
> I have not been able to listen to the "new" WERE yet. I
> assume Tall Ted is gone. That poor guy can't get a break.
>

Tall Ted is gone. Jim Davis is still at WERE as the operations manager. But he's off-the-air completely - as "Your Music" is gone and WERE now has a new imaging voice in his place.

Ted's now only on WHKR/91.5 on Monday mornings.

- Nathan Obral
 
Reaction from a "listener"

> Let me state first and foremost, this will not be a
> political post. To make it so would require this to be
> about 45-times longer than otherwise to refute some of
> Duncan's misguided opinions and observances. To call them
> base racism and pandering race-baiting is being kind.


Great point about Duncan's "race-baiting"...I've heard parts of his show on two different mornings. His show, many times, degenerates into that classic Chris Rock skit "Nat X" from Saturday Night Live. One morning, Duncan was saying that gas stations in black neighborhoods charge higher prices and that's racist and this morning, he was blasting a Phoenix newspaper and folks at Quicken Loans Arena for a recent Cavs game in which he called NBA legend Oscar Robertson "Oscar ROBINSON." He said that if the p.a. guy had been white and said that, it would have been pretty much shrugged off. I'm sorry, Ronnie, but screwing up one of the greatest players of all time on a night when the Cavs have a "Black History Themed" night seems pretty stupid. Wouldn't you think he would get that right? I don't think you can blame "the man" for that one.
 
Re: Reaction from a "listener"

> > Let me state first and foremost, this will not be a
> > political post. To make it so would require this to be
> > about 45-times longer than otherwise to refute some of
> > Duncan's misguided opinions and observances. To call them
>
> > base racism and pandering race-baiting is being kind.
>
>
> Great point about Duncan's "race-baiting"...I've heard parts
> of his show on two different mornings. His show, many
> times, degenerates into that classic Chris Rock skit "Nat X"
> from Saturday Night Live. One morning, Duncan was saying
> that gas stations in black neighborhoods charge higher
> prices and that's racist and this morning, he was blasting a
> Phoenix newspaper and folks at Quicken Loans Arena for a
> recent Cavs game in which he called NBA legend Oscar
> Robertson "Oscar ROBINSON." He said that if the p.a. guy
> had been white and said that, it would have been pretty much
> shrugged off. I'm sorry, Ronnie, but screwing up one of the
> greatest players of all time on a night when the Cavs have a
> "Black History Themed" night seems pretty stupid. Wouldn't
> you think he would get that right? I don't think you can
> blame "the man" for that one.
>

That is a vain attempt by Ronnie Duncan distract from the real issue there, which is that Duncan is woefully inadequate in the PA position, despite what Roger Brown has to say about it. Howie Chizek he ain't. Those are tough shoes to fill. And Duncan's race has nothing to do with his talent in the PA box. No one knows--or cares--what color the PA announcer is, just as long as he gets the names and scores/penalties right.

If a hall-of-famer like Oscar Robertson is in the building, you best damn get his name right.

At least Ronnie didn't call him Oscar Peterson...
 
Re: Reaction from a "listener"

> That is a vain attempt by Ronnie Duncan distract from the
> real issue there, which is that Duncan is woefully
> inadequate in the PA position, despite what Roger Brown has
> to say about it. Howie Chizek he ain't. Those are tough
> shoes to fill.

As for the "Ronnie Duncan - the next Howie Chizek?" subject line I put here (yes, that WAS me!) it was tongue-in-cheek. Any defense thereof by Roger Brown, aside from being nothing but a PR machine, is totally silly.

> If a hall-of-famer like Oscar Robertson is in the building,
> you best damn get his name right.
>
> At least Ronnie didn't call him Oscar Peterson...

IIRC, Mike Olzewski bombed as a PA announcer at Jacobs Field when he replaced the legendary Mark Tromba. His doing in was when Mike O misidentified Blue Jays manager Jim Fregosi as Tim Johnson - the man who preceeded Jim.

- Nathan Obral

(Post #870 - dedicated to WWL/New Orleans...)
 
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