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Processing clips

Couldn't use Sweet Jane I'm afraid This is not a particularly representative clip ...quote from gt. so it was representative for all the other processors in the thread but NOT the 8500?? severe bias here,perhaps?? Off air or off the processor it should have been presented to the posters in ths thread IMHO Every thought about getting into politics, those guys are good at double talk....
 
menotti1 said:
Couldn't use Sweet Jane I'm afraid This is not a particularly representative clip ...quote from gt. so it was representative for all the other processors in the thread but NOT the 8500?? severe bias here,perhaps?? Off air or off the processor it should have been presented to the posters in ths thread IMHO Every thought about getting into politics, those guys are good at double talk....
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Double talk for sure. If Sweet Jane was 'good enough' for use with criticizing other boxes, why not the 8500?
 
menotti1 said:
Couldn't use Sweet Jane I'm afraid This is not a particularly representative clip ...quote from gt. so it was representative for all the other processors in the thread but NOT the 8500?? severe bias here,perhaps?? Off air or off the processor it should have been presented to the posters in ths thread IMHO Every thought about getting into politics, those guys are good at double talk....
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To be perfectly honest, some processors were recorded directly from their outputs so there are fewer disclaimers to be made in terms of STL hops, transmitters and receivers... But the reason I wrote all that becasue is the so much recent remarks that this is important to be mentioned, which perhaps I haven't done enough before (cause I assumed it was obvious). I wanted to beat the comments up front, but I guess you can never please everybody...

Rest assured if you hear ducking, breathing or any other purely dynamic artifact - it's Orban, despite all the other equipment. For overall sound texture, cleanliness, etc. you might want to take it with a "grain of salt"...


Regards,
Goran Tomas
 
PaulyBoy said:
Double talk for sure. If Sweet Jane was 'good enough' for use with criticizing other boxes, why not the 8500?
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The station does not play that sort of music and I didn't want to force them to... I'm not in Croatia anymore and I can't make that clip even if I wanted to. Perhaps someone else on the board has access to 8500 and can make that recording, to cast away all potential biases?

But I can tell you right now it will sound similar to 8200 recording Broadcast made in terms of ducking.


Regards,
Goran Tomas
 
come on GT load up sweet jane.i listened to the clip"it by no means lit my fire.thought i heard some hf clipping, but no big deal, it is what it is..What did it prove??Fact is we have beat this post to death and it's time to move on.don't you agree??a prudent person and certainly someone as bright as you are would...i still maintain my belief that the 8100 was the best Orban product ever and the 8500 won't get close to the 06 in clarity ,loudness and brightness.as always IMHO
 
Goran Tomas said:
To be perfectly honest, some processors were recorded directly from their outputs so there are fewer disclaimers to be made in terms of STL hops, transmitters and receivers... But the reason I wrote all that becasue is the so much recent remarks that this is important to be mentioned, which perhaps I haven't done enough before (cause I assumed it was obvious). I wanted to beat the comments up front, but I guess you can never please everybody...

Rest assured if you hear ducking, breathing or any other purely dynamic artifact - it's Orban, despite all the other equipment. For overall sound texture, cleanliness, etc. you might want to take it with a "grain of salt"...
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What? Why all the disclaimers? Ducking? You were bashing another product over the same issue, but now it's OK? Your true colors have come out...not much there it seems.
 
You really cannot judge a processor by what one song sounds like through it, even though, it was me that initally suggested Sweet Jane. Sorry!!! ;D

I think another post on here said it: how a processor sounds on the station's source material, and how it balances program audio over the long-haul determines it's usefulness and overall quality.

I've heard both leading "O" boxes sound darn good.
 
Sgeirk said:
You really cannot judge a processor by what one song sounds like through it, even though, it was me that initally suggested Sweet Jane. Sorry!!! ;D

I think another post on here said it: how a processor sounds on the station's source material, and how it balances program audio over the long-haul determines it's usefulness and overall quality.
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Agree with you 100%.

Rubbing goran's nose in it as he's the one who carries on about other products. Now he can't fess up regarding weak performance by his chosen machine.
 
Sweet Jane via 8100 and Ariane Sequel. Uploaded. 28 year old HF limiters.

BTW: off the record, not only a horrible recording from an engineering standpoint, but just a horrible record period.
 
PaulyBoy said:
Rubbing goran's nose in it as he's the one who carries on about other products. Now he can't fess up regarding weak performance by his chosen machine.
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8500 is not my chosen machine. Just because I pointed out what I be live is a flaw in O6, doesn't make me pro Orban. In logic, this mistake is called early generalization ;) There are more than two ways of processing, not just Orban & Omnia... And they can be just as good and perhaps better. I certainly am not going to limit myself to only those two and I'm certainly not going to take sides.


Regards,
Goran Tomas

P.S. The clip was uploaded as yet another processing clip, irrelevant to the previous discussion. It doesn't prove anything and it isn't supposed to show you how good or bad 8500 is. It's just another clip...
 
Goran Tomas said:
8500 is not my chosen machine. Just because I pointed out what I be live is a flaw in O6, doesn't make me pro Orban.
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A lot of others have posted they don't hear this with the O6. Then, you offer excuses about the 8500. Think I'll rename you "eGoran."
 
wgliradio said:
Sweet Jane via 8100 and Ariane Sequel. Uploaded. 28 year old HF limiters.

BTW: off the record, not only a horrible recording from an engineering standpoint, but just a horrible record period.
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*makes a mental note to buy the album and add the song to any potential AAA music show she ever does*.... ;D

I actually like the song, and the girl who sings it -- if it's the one I'm thinking I saw on You-Tube by the Cowboy Junkies. I agree that it sounds like ass, technically, but then again it was supposed to -- the whole Lo-Fi movement in music.
 
The F Mister said:
I've uploaded two clips, Another Josie and Kelly Clarkson.

What's different? I now have included a Warsanis 1240 three band processor in my chain. I have this thing laying around and it badly needs maintenance because as far as I know never had any and is more than 20 years old! But I really like it's distinctive sound. It hardly limits more than 3 to 5db, it's there for the flavor and protects the Aphex 204 which follows it. Next item I would like to add to the chain is a Aphex 320A. I rather have a Ariane but try to find one second hand. No chance. I also wanted a Orban 222a but as stereo enhancement might come to the dspx I'll wait. :)
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No offence F Mister, what can I say. I hear exactly everything I didn't liked in a Warsanis, and yes I used this processor myself and also the 1400 series. The low end is not thight, the highs are not consistent. Notice the amount of distortion at the beginning of the track. I wonder how "Queen of rain" or "Chains" comes through this one? It sounds harsh.
Also, I admit, for some kind of radiostations this could be a dream machine. Well know and used in local radio in the Netherlands, but again not my favorite.
Problem with this 1240 and 1400 procesors is that you are almost unable to tune the sound you want. Especially the 1400 series has no tonar controll (the density switches can't hardly been seen as tonar controlls) only AGC input, multiband drive, multiband clipper and clipper drive.

But Steven Warsanis didn't made this one for songs like Josie in a time when Capella (move on up) and lost of other eurotrash climbed the Dutch charge.

And for the record, I use an ASI soundcard (ASI4336) for playback and a Beyer DT770 headphone.
 
I agree with you Martijn, and if it would be for radio I wouldn't dare to put it in the chain. And right now it's not connected either. This has also to do that it needs maintenance but even then your right about the sound. As you said it was designed for a different time but this can't be an excuse. The orban 8100 was also designed for a different time but is still holding it own. ;)

I think I will do some maintenance and sell it on because strange enough there is a market for these things. Or maybe I'll hold on to it for a rainy day. ;)
 
Is the processing clips hosting site still up? I'm having a hard time finding it. Possibly the URL has changed? It's been a while since I uploaded anything, but I just felt the need to upload an example of WDRC-FM's new audio under the direction of Tom Ray. This thing sounds FANTASTIC! Easily one of the best sounding CT stations, if not THE best. I've been told it's a Compellor at the studio feeding Omnia 6EXi at the TX.

Anyway I'd like the guys here to listen to this file...

Thanks,

-A
 
It still doesn't appear to be working Goran... all I get is some kind of search site as before. BTW congrats on the new job!!!

-A
 
Ok, that worked nicely, thanks Goran.

On their way up, are an old to new processing clip which is exactly 60 seconds, just after the new gear went in. The other is dated today and was recorded about one hour ago. These, as usual, are directly recorded files with no EQ or other signal processing added, with the exception of normalization to -3dB.

Love to hear what the rest of the guys here think...

http://161.53.122.22:8080

user: processing
password: clips
 
Okay, replying to my own post, my comments on 'the new' WDRC:

I can hear the compellor loud and clear. Tom Ray says it isn't doing much of anything other than being a peak protector for the STL. But to me, it seems to dig in a too little hard, with that single-band compression sound at times for my taste, but given the format, it's nice and loud, robust, consistent and clean, and I won't lie, I like a little bit of that hard-knee sound in an oldies format. It works nicely for most material and it certainly sounds 100% better than it did less than 3 months ago.

Comments?

-A
 
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