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Processing clips

Alan Fletcher said:
Okay, replying to my own post, my comments on 'the new' WDRC:

I can hear the compellor loud and clear.

-A

This is why there is the Ariane. I could never pre-process with a Compellor again, just my opinion.
 
Replying again, I've added some photos of my Vintage Pioneer TX-9100 in action, tuned to WDRC-FM. I should have changed the filenames to reflect what they are and where they came from , but I thought of it after the fact.

In the 'Processing Pictures' folder you will find DSC-0001 and DSC-0002. Dark and light pics of beautiful blue analog meters and some of the tuner's dial. It's been a long night folks... wife is sleeping and these were time exposures- it took a while to get them right.

http://161.53.122.22:8080

User: processing
Password: clips

-A
 
Let's dig up this topic.

On request I've added a few pic's of my Xtreme but more importantly a clip :). I've put together a few samples starting with Leann and Josie as reference but than a few hypercompressed samples of the music I run through the Xtreme 99% of the time. It's all with my Xtreme preset with hi density/heavy processing in mind. I must be honest and say that the source hypercompressed samples are not linear but mp3. If someone has hypercompressed music they need to deal with in linear, please upload it because it's fun to make a great preset that goes well with Steely Dan and LeAnn but this is not the real life for everyone.
 
The F Mister said:
Let's dig up this topic.

On request I've added a few pic's of my Xtreme but more importantly a clip :). I've put together a few samples starting with Leann and Josie as reference but than a few hypercompressed samples of the music I run through the Xtreme 99% of the time. It's all with my Xtreme preset with hi density/heavy processing in mind. I must be honest and say that the source hypercompressed samples are not linear but mp3. If someone has hypercompressed music they need to deal with in linear, please upload it because it's fun to make a great preset that goes well with Steely Dan and LeAnn but this is not the real life for everyone.

Does the DSPXTREME have the DSP-X agc or the Arianne?
 
No Ariane in the Extreme.File sounds way over processed,just the way Fmister described it.too fatiguing...a little TOO EXTREME,if you pardon the pun.
 
radioengr said:
Does the DSPXTREME have the DSP-X agc or the Arianne?
The AGC of the Xtreme is from BW. And it does a really great job. I had to put a compellor in front of my DSPX-FM but no need for it with the Xtreme.

menotti1 said:
No Ariane in the Extreme.File sounds way over processed,just the way Fmister described it.too fatiguing...a little TOO EXTREME,if you pardon the pun.
I guess that we are getting used to it in The Netherlands, major radio stations have cranked up their processing heavily in the past year. Fortunately it comes with less aggressive presets as well. ;)
Perhaps I'll run it later with a hot chr preset that comes with the Xtreme.
 
So what is your slogan"Your Maximum Mash Hit Music Station"?hate to borrow a line from Mr. Orban "less is more".Been there done that before.Won't go back,ever.
 
stace said:

It might come later as an plug-in. I guess that the hardware platforms are the same and the Xtreme has so much power under the lit that an ariane plug-in is an option. I've never heard the ariane so I don't know how it compares to the agc of the Xtreme but at this moment I don't really feel the need for leveling ahead of the Xtreme. People find that it's already smashed up already :D.

menotti1 said:
So what is your slogan"Your Maximum Mash Hit Music Station"?hate to borrow a line from Mr. Orban "less is more".Been there done that before.Won't go back,ever.

Guess what, not running the Xtreme on an station. It for my personal playback fun at home so don't need to care about fatiguing.

Sgeirk said:
To me, sounds too overdone. Might sound good with other stuff, but it's just mean to Steely Dan.

I agree, thats why I asked if someone could upload another clip in linear. The Xtreme comes with nice 80's, easy listening, AC, CHR and HOT CHR presets so lot's of startingpoints for music like Steely Dan.
 
The F Mister said:
I agree, thats why I asked if someone could upload another clip in linear. The Xtreme comes with nice 80's, easy listening, AC, CHR and HOT CHR presets so lot's of startingpoints for music like Steely Dan.

Why don't you just play a Steely Dan, or other CD into the Extreme? No need to send you a huge file.

Kind Regards,
David
 
I've played Steely Dan into the Xtreme with both my presets as the factory CHR HOT preset. Now what I mean with "If someone could upload a clip in linear" is that someone ones decided that he should upload Steely Dan and we all start running it into our processing and upload the results back. Some sort of reference. Now this is all just fine and lots of fun but I'm not running music in the genre of Steely Dan at all so I would like to have some more current music we start to use as well besides steely Dan. And as stated before I didn't have any current (hypercompressed) music in linear laying around at that time. Now I have and will upload it later.
 
In addition, some of us need to deal with hypercompressed music. Correct me if I'm wrong but manufacturers are responding to this by releasing firmware with new AGC/Leveling algorithms to better cope with hypercompressed source material. If someone has such and example of hypercompressed material that he/she needs to play on-air. Upload this track as well. Let's see how processors deal with these kind of songs. The processing clips server is filled with Steely Dan, Sweet Jane and Tena Arena. I'd like to see something else more current as well. Hope that I made my point clear. ;)
 
The F Mister said:
I've played Steely Dan into the Xtreme with both my presets as the factory CHR HOT preset. Now what I mean with "If someone could upload a clip in linear" is that someone ones decided that he should upload Steely Dan and we all start running it into our processing and upload the results back. Some sort of reference. Now this is all just fine and lots of fun but I'm not running music in the genre of Steely Dan at all so I would like to have some more current music we start to use as well besides steely Dan. And as stated before I didn't have any current (hypercompressed) music in linear laying around at that time. Now I have and will upload it later.

Well, what I was thinking is that since linear files takes so much space, never mind the long uploading/download time, it might be simpler to just use a store-purchased CD. Anyone who wants a particular cut can always just buy it.

A few of us DO still buy music, don't we? ;D

Kind Regards,
David
 
The F Mister said:
In addition, some of us need to deal with hypercompressed music. Correct me if I'm wrong but manufacturers are responding to this by releasing firmware with new AGC/Leveling algorithms to better cope with hypercompressed source material.

For the better part of a decade now, this has been one of the strongest selling points of the Ariane: the idea that if the audio is already processed the processing should leave well enough alone.

Since the plea to reduce processing on the part of the record producers has apparently fallen upon deaf ears (literally!), the modern processor ought to 'know' to do the next best thing: nothing.

At least in the realm of AGCs, IMHO the best processors for now and the future will sense the incoming material's RMS density and shut down the control activity when said density is already beyond a given amount.

Kind Regards,
David
 
David Reaves said:
At least in the realm of AGCs, IMHO the best processors for now and the future will sense the incoming material's RMS density and shut down the control activity when said density is already beyond a given amount.

Kind Regards,
David

I second that motion!

-C
 
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