Pugs and Kelly fired from The Bone

[TheRover]

How about flipping 105.3 to The Oasis ????

What a brilliant idea.

Since when did a common sense idea have any place any Radio ? ?

 

[PandK_71]

Everyone seems to forget the real question about 93.3 The Bone.

Will they have to face a lawsuit from Pugs and Kelly?
P&K's defense-We worked as hard as Russ Martin, where's our 3 million for the next 2 years?

Didn't they get that when they signed with the Bone?

 

[mrchris]

Not surprised they are gone they are a talk show and it cant work on a music station. Also if they got eric back I assume he left CBS so he was at the new station for what less than a week?

 

[Albert19X]

Everyone seems to forget the real question about 93.3 The Bone.

Will they have to face a lawsuit from Pugs and Kelly?
P&K's defense-We worked as hard as Russ Martin, where's our 3 million for the next 2 years?

Didn't they get that when they signed with the Bone?

No one forgot. Everyone but you consider it a non-issue.

I hate to see them go again but the talk/music hybrid format just wasn't working. I gave up on them weeks ago, not coincidentally when they the brought Emil Cerullo on board as a regular. I'll be interested to see if another station will pick them up as a regular talk show.

In the meantime, PandK_71, we're still waiting for the details about the supposed lawsuit P&k filed against 105.3 last year. Can't you find the records?

 

[scrtr84]

In the meantime, PandK_71, we're still waiting for the details about the supposed lawsuit P&k filed against 105.3 last year. Can't you find the records?

I found them...

www.dumpsterbehindthebuilding.com

;D

 

[PandK_71]

Thank you scrtr84!!!!

Did you get the memo Albert19X?
Now go have a good cry. Why dont you start a petition to get Pugs and Kelly back on the air???

Even Pugs will you that it is useless-they are outta here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How ironic, Pugs and Kelly lose their jobs but Ron and Don keep their jobs.

 

[Albert19X]

No memo, PandK. Like I said, I stopped listening weeks ago. No petition, either, because it is just a radio show. A petition would just be a symptom of an obsession, much like your repeated ( and repeatedly unsubstantiated) assertion that P&K are serial litigants.

Still and all I'll miss their show. They were good when they just stuck to talking with their audience, not killing time between Zeppelin tunes talking to local psuedo-celebrities.

Someone gave Ron and Don another show?

 

[ebola fever]

lol. just lol

 

[salemjedi54]

It is about time that the Ticket got a decent signal.

Moving The Ticket to FM would make the most sense. I'd love to see how a three way SportsTalk battle on FM would turn out.

For those of us living outside DFW: Did KTCK get back to full power after losing the three towers last year? Haven't been able to tell on my last few trips to the market.

Yes, they repaired those towers and are back at full strength. I just keep wondering why folk want the Ticket on 93.3. They are doing pretty well on 1310. If there is solid evidence that moving from 1310 to 93.3 will boost the revenues, then I am sure the switch would have been done a long time ago.

 

[bucwhyl]

My question is why folk want three sports stations. They basically are talking about the same thing. I bet the topic of the day is March Madness.

 

[salemjedi54]

My question is why folk want three sports stations. They basically are talking about the same thing. I bet the topic of the day is March Madness.

It may be boring to most, but the bottom line....They make money. Just like KSOC/KBFB. They don't want to be number one, they just want to take some market share and revenues from Service Broadcasting. If they do that, then they have done their job.

 

[Albert19X]

My question is why folk want three sports stations. They basically are talking about the same thing. I bet the topic of the day is March Madness.

It may be boring to most, but the bottom line....They make money. Just like KSOC/KBFB. They don't want to be number one, they just want to take some market share and revenues from Service Broadcasting. If they do that, then they have done their job.

Then you're talking blasphemy on this board. From what I've read here anything less than #1 in your demographic calls for a complete staff blowout and an immediate format change, ideally to smooth jazz.

BURN THE HERETIC!

 

[BBontheRadio]

Then you're talking blasphemy on this board. From what I've read here anything less than #1 in your demographic calls for a complete staff blowout and an immediate format change, ideally to smooth jazz.

Ya because smooth jazz sells so well!

 

[Lancer]

My question is why folk want three sports stations. They basically are talking about the same thing. I bet the topic of the day is March Madness.

We have 3 right-wing talk stations so why not 3 sports?

 

[bucwhyl]

My question is why folk want three sports stations. They basically are talking about the same thing. I bet the topic of the day is March Madness.

We have 3 right-wing talk stations so why not 3 sports?

You have a point.

 

[txchipk]

It is about time that the Ticket got a decent signal.

Moving The Ticket to FM would make the most sense. I'd love to see how a three way SportsTalk battle on FM would turn out.

For those of us living outside DFW: Did KTCK get back to full power after losing the three towers last year? Haven't been able to tell on my last few trips to the market.

Yes, they repaired those towers and are back at full strength. I just keep wondering why folk want the Ticket on 93.3. They are doing pretty well on 1310. If there is solid evidence that moving from 1310 to 93.3 will boost the revenues, then I am sure the switch would have been done a long time ago.

I've brought this up a few times before as an idea (i.e. how come we haven't seen FM simulcasts of 820, 1080, and 1310 yet like other markets) because it is a growing trend across the country that operators seem to be abandoning the AM dial as the remaining audience for it ages and shrinks. There are now 200+ FM news/talk, talk, or sports FMs across the country -- not counting the non-commercial NPR types. Cox killed the contemporary Christian format on KKCM 102.3 Tulsa and flipped it to a simulcast of news/talk KRMG 740 as the latest one today. KTCK obviously is doing fine right now...however, it is the sole AM left in the market with any sort of decent 25-54 numbers. Over time, the audience will age out and today's younger generation to move into 25-54 to replace them don't listen to AM radio.

The overwhelming reason given for all the AM-to-FM migrations elsewhere is to get younger since younger folks do not listen to the AM dial. Many of the migrations to FM (or added FM simulcasts) have netted better 25-54 numbers (i.e. WXYT 1270 Detroit adding former "Free FM" talker 97.1 there as a simulcast). Since KDBN has terrible 25-54 numbers, making it KTCK-FM probably would be similar to what happened in Detroit. A KTCK-FM doesn't even have to match KDBN's numbers to make it come out even revenue-wise since (a) you've removed the cost of the separate format and (b) KTCK has more advertising minutes/sponsored segments than KDBN. KTCK probably does miss some potential listeners due to the 1310 facility -- difficult to hear in some office buildings, weaker on the west side of the market, weak nighttime pattern for early AM drive and later PM drive in the fall/winter months, etc. Obviously, they know it is limited or it would not be simulcast on KKLF 1700, KTDK 104.1, and on the HD2 of KPLX 99.5 to try to cover the market. 93.3 could fix some of that.

 

[analog78]

I smell a format flip soon... No morning show, no afternoon show, no PD...

They do have a Pd, the PD from the ticket took over after Gary left... Coincidence....

 

[analog78]

Just a matter of time before it is 93.3 The Ticket....

Yea I agree ISaidSo

 

[salemjedi54]

It is about time that the Ticket got a decent signal.

Moving The Ticket to FM would make the most sense. I'd love to see how a three way SportsTalk battle on FM would turn out.

For those of us living outside DFW: Did KTCK get back to full power after losing the three towers last year? Haven't been able to tell on my last few trips to the market.

Yes, they repaired those towers and are back at full strength. I just keep wondering why folk want the Ticket on 93.3. They are doing pretty well on 1310. If there is solid evidence that moving from 1310 to 93.3 will boost the revenues, then I am sure the switch would have been done a long time ago.

I've brought this up a few times before as an idea (i.e. how come we haven't seen FM simulcasts of 820, 1080, and 1310 yet like other markets) because it is a growing trend across the country that operators seem to be abandoning the AM dial as the remaining audience for it ages and shrinks. There are now 200+ FM news/talk, talk, or sports FMs across the country -- not counting the non-commercial NPR types. Cox killed the contemporary Christian format on KKCM 102.3 Tulsa and flipped it to a simulcast of news/talk KRMG 740 as the latest one today. KTCK obviously is doing fine right now...however, it is the sole AM left in the market with any sort of decent 25-54 numbers. Over time, the audience will age out and today's younger generation to move into 25-54 to replace them don't listen to AM radio.

The overwhelming reason given for all the AM-to-FM migrations elsewhere is to get younger since younger folks do not listen to the AM dial. Many of the migrations to FM (or added FM simulcasts) have netted better 25-54 numbers (i.e. WXYT 1270 Detroit adding former "Free FM" talker 97.1 there as a simulcast). Since KDBN has terrible 25-54 numbers, making it KTCK-FM probably would be similar to what happened in Detroit. A KTCK-FM doesn't even have to match KDBN's numbers to make it come out even revenue-wise since (a) you've removed the cost of the separate format and (b) KTCK has more advertising minutes/sponsored segments than KDBN. KTCK probably does miss some potential listeners due to the 1310 facility -- difficult to hear in some office buildings, weaker on the west side of the market, weak nighttime pattern for early AM drive and later PM drive in the fall/winter months, etc. Obviously, they know it is limited or it would not be simulcast on KKLF 1700, KTDK 104.1, and on the HD2 of KPLX 99.5 to try to cover the market. 93.3 could fix some of that.

You do have a good point Txchipk. It does make sense, but will it happen. Is the Fan 105.3 a big enough of a threat for Cumulus to make the switch.

 

[scrtr84]

You do have a good point Txchipk. It does make sense, but will it happen. Is the Fan 105.3 a big enough of a threat for Cumulus to make the switch.

I think the bigger threat at the moment for the Ticket, is that the AM band is dying. Not that I think the FM band is any better, but c'est la vie.