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Question: Re daytime AM still has to protect clear channel at night.

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Hello I have a question regarding Daytime AM stations still have to protect clear channle on that same frequency at night?
I use to be able to hear WJR AM 760 nights but not for a while since WCPS radio 760 has been broadcasting at night.
 
The FCC will not auhorize any station that does not conform to current rules. So, unless the station is breaking FCC rules, they are operating in accordance with FCC Rules.
 
WCHP Champlain, NY is a Class D with 35000 W Day and 11 W Night DA-1. It is just outside the 50% Skywave Contour of WJR. So it is authorized at Night, but with just 11 W.

KCCV Overland Park, KS is a Class D with 6000 W Day and 200 W Night DA-2, protecting mainly WJR at Night, and is just outside the 50% Skywave Contour of WJR.
 
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DXingRadio said:
I've caught WCPS evenings in central MD, didn't know they were at it all night. They have an FM translator so doubt it's intentional.
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As you obviously know from the way you phrased that, having a translator does not authorize night operation of an AM daytimer. However, as you also obviously know, the translator is allowed to stay on the air at night when the AM is off.

It sounds to me that someone needs to either contact them and advise them of the apparent violation, before someone decides to report them to the FCC.
 
K.M. Richards said:
That's not in dispute. But WCPS should not be interfering with WJR at night, because the transmitter is supposed to be turned off.
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That is what I was thinking too. The only reason why I ask to start with is because I’ve thought The FCC relax the rules letting daytime AM clear channle broadcast at night.
 
Surfdude1061 said:
That is what I was thinking too. The only reason why I ask to start with is because I’ve thought The FCC relax the rules letting daytime AM clear channle broadcast at night.
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Some got night authorizations, but now within the 0.5 mV/m contour of the skywave mentioned by the Cat. That is protected coverage for those stations.
 
davideduardo said:
Some got night authorizations, but now within the 0.5 mV/m contour of the skywave mentioned by the Cat. That is protected coverage for those stations.
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I’m not so sure how to get in touch with the FCC on this regarding WCPS
 
davideduardo said:
Some got night authorizations, but NOT within the 0.5 mV/m 50% contour of the skywave mentioned by the Cat. That is protected coverage for those stations.
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WHFB 1060 Benton Harbor, MI has an authorization for 1.3 W Nighttime, as it is just outside of the KYW 1060 0.5 mV/m 50% skywave contour. Larry Langford, Jr. (NOT the one from Birmingham, AL, another one) is the corporate engineer there, from Chicago. Used to be the spokesman for the Chicago Fire Department.
 
Surfdude1061 said:
How long does it take for the FCC do the enforcement on this??
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Have you contacted the offending station? Most likely it's a timer error on the AM's control system. They most likely have no idea the transmitter is on at night. I know they are supposed to check on these things but most I would bet a cheap cup of coffee they just listen to the FM translator. There is no revenue for them on the AM and they are wasting electricity running the AM transmitter extra hours. You would be doing them a favor
 
secondchoice said:
Have you contacted the offending station? Most likely it's a timer error on the AM's control system. They most likely have no idea the transmitter is on at night. I know they are supposed to check on these things but most I would bet a cheap cup of coffee they just listen to the FM translator. There is no revenue for them on the AM and they are wasting electricity running the AM transmitter extra hours. You would be doing them a favor
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Looked at the recent history for WCPS - the owner passed away and it is being managed by an executor. I suspect the equipment / timer failure theory is correct and they aren't aware of it. A phone call or email to the station would be the first step.
 
It is not only a matter of daytime only stations having to protect co-channel clear channel stations. It works the other way as well. If daytime station on a clear channel stayed on at night, that station could be overcome with incoming interference from the clear channel station, and coverage could be a real disappointment.

And to me, on the other side the issue is not clear channel stations losing wide area skywave coverage. It is actually about clear channel stations losing interference-free regional ground wave coverage.

I think it is unfortunate the issue became protecting skywave coverage, instead of preserving coverage in outer suburbs and within a geographically large Nielsen Metro.
 
rfburns said:
Looked at the recent history for WCPS - the owner passed away and it is being managed by an executor. I suspect the equipment / timer failure theory is correct and they aren't aware of it. A phone call or email to the station would be the first step.
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I agree with the spirit and attitude of what rfburns wrote. It could be a logistical and people matter, rather than intentionally breaking the rules. Maybe reach out to who the FCC considers in control of the station and see if you could help in some way with respect to improved compliance with FCC rules and policies. At some stations, if someone has a health or family emergency, those priorities come first.
 
Greg Strickland said:
Maybe reach out to who the FCC considers in control of the station and see if you could help in some way with respect to improved compliance with FCC rules and policies. At some stations, if someone has a health or family emergency, those priorities come first.
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LMA to the rescue.

The transfer of control of the license company shows the estate's executor, Theresa Walker, to have that responsibility. Her contact information, from the FCC filing, is:
Theresa A. Walker, Executor
3418 Vick Road
Nashville, NC 27856 		+1 (252) 567-6829 [email protected]
 


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