Quinn & Rose #1 in morning drive.

[Parttimer]

Quinn and Rose are entertaining? When I've heard them, they've been sour alarmists who plug into and exploit people who feel they're disenfranchised.

It's all relative....

 

[Talk_Dude]

Quinn and Rose are entertaining? When I've heard them, they've been sour alarmists who plug into and exploit people who feel they're disenfranchised.

Maybe to people who feel they're disenfranchised, sour alarmists ARE entertaining.

I believe the adage about "different strokes for different folks" applies here. I don't find recreations of the noise that accompanied old-time Top 40 radio entertaining to me, but I can understand and accept that some people like that kind of thing. Can't you understand and accept that some people happen to like Quinn and Rose's show even if you don't?

 

[MsMusicRadio]

Can you JUST ONCE ignore someone's politics and give them credit for their talent? I'm beggin' ya....

I'm sure Jeff Christie and Glenn Beck were very good at being Top 40 DJ's. They both have the kind of voices that generate excitement. So does Rick Sanchez at CNN.

 

[MsMusicRadio]

Can you JUST ONCE ignore someone's politics and give them credit for their talent? I'm beggin' ya....

I'm sure Jeff Christie and Glenn Beck were very good at being Top 40 DJ's. They both have the kind of voices that generate excitement. So does Rick Sanchez at CNN.

Forgot-----Ed Schultz tries to use a hard and fast delivery style with left-wing views

 

[KeyTimes950]

Quinn and Rose probably would not be quite as successful if they weren't a show Clear Channel is syndicating. The production quality, the research, and everything else about the show is aimed at a national audience. I think the WRRK era was prep time for what they are doing now on XM and on local stations in much of the country. Also, there is another element about right-wing talk you may or may not think about: Without Rose and an underlying Christian faith she really has (I've had the pleasure of knowing her for more than 20 years), Quinn could have become the Michael Savage of morning talk radio ... and a ratings killer. Savage is an acquired taste, like tequila or really strong cheese. Quinn has mellowed in Rose's presence, just enough one does not find the bitterness he could have brought from B94.

 

[livingfruitvirus]

Quinn and Rose probably would not be quite as successful if they weren't a show Clear Channel is syndicating. The production quality, the research, and everything else about the show is aimed at a national audience. I think the WRRK era was prep time for what they are doing now on XM and on local stations in much of the country. Also, there is another element about right-wing talk you may or may not think about: Without Rose and an underlying Christian faith she really has (I've had the pleasure of knowing her for more than 20 years), Quinn could have become the Michael Savage of morning talk radio ... and a ratings killer. Savage is an acquired taste, like tequila or really strong cheese. Quinn has mellowed in Rose's presence, just enough one does not find the bitterness he could have brought from B94.

Actually the show is now down to 5 affiliates, including WPGB. The others are WYSL Rochester (and its FM translator), WHLO Akron which runs the show on a delay, WFRB Ashland, OH and WFRB Frostburg, MD. I don't think the last two are even in measurable markets. Correct me if I'm wrong. Plus, it's not easy to syndicate a talk radio morning show. When it comes to talk, mornings are the last bastion of localism.

 

[Pratte4Life]

When do the B-94 people come on here and say this is proof the format should be restored again?

 

[MsMusicRadio]

When do the B-94 people come on here and say this is proof the format should be restored again?

No-------we come on and say that B94 should come back as a Churban like B96 in Chicago or Wild 94.1 in Tampa.

 

[KeyTimes950]

I think the XM connection is far more important than the terrestrial affiliates. The point is unchanged about the standards Clear Channel would put into a show for syndication. Still, if it's down to five stations that is not a good sign no matter how many XM subscribers might tune in.

By the way, I would be more inclined to think 100.7 will be the next CBS station to change format, as observed elsewhere, rather than 93.7.

 

[corporateradiosucks]

By the way, I would be more inclined to think 100.7 will be the next CBS station to change format, as observed elsewhere, rather than 93.7.

They just recently (kind of) did.

 

[livingfruitvirus]

The point is unchanged about the standards Clear Channel would put into a show for syndication.

Wasn't part of the deal of hiring Quinn was to syndicate the show? Maybe that's a more common tactic by hosts. It feels like any local Clear Channel cluster can syndicate a show if they have offers. It's not like Premiere Radio which is designed to commit to its shows and clear as many markets as possible under a barter basis. These smaller networks of shows Clear Channel has don't have large affiliate bases, and aren't really reliant on staying in syndication because the host is employed by the flagship station, and syndication fees are just gravy. A lucky few have been absorbed into Premiere Radio (Elvis Duran, Glenn Beck), or in some cases had their distribution signed by a third party (Jerry Springer, Todd Schnitt).

I'm not knocking their ratings for this period either. It's just that Quinn and Rose have a very highly rated show......in Pittsburgh.

I think the XM connection is far more important than the terrestrial affiliates.

Certainly not. If syndicating is your goal, then you want to get as many clears as possible for either more advertising revenue or cash fees per station. There are dozens of syndicated shows that simulcast on satellite radio, and they continue to actively sell the shows to markets. Satellite radio may be nationwide, but that doesn't mean you're now cleared in every market. I can't imagine the satellite radio average weekly cume for these shows being any larger than airing on a decent stick in a medium market.

No-------we come on and say that B94 should come back as a Churban like B96 in Chicago or Wild 94.1 in Tampa.

What is Churban?

 

[MsMusicRadio]

Churban is a CHR/Urban hybrid. They aim to attract both the inner city and suburban youth market. Usually they sound a lot more Urban than CHR like WPGC in DC. I think it could work in Pittsburgh if done right (whatever that is). I don't listen to this format as I am too old so I am not an expert .

 

[Raymond]

Parttimer



Re: Quinn & Rose #1 in morning drive.
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2010, 09:58:48 PM »

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Can you JUST ONCE ignore someone's politics and give them credit for their talent? I'm beggin' ya....

I am in total agreement with Parttimer.

It takes a talented and confident individual to re-brand himself. The best thing for Quinn was the whole Liz Randolph situation. It made him into who he is today.

He is extremely talented, knowledgeable, and does his homework. I have a respect for the man as he's not just talking to hear himself talk. He truly means what he says.

I enjoy listening to Quinn and Rose. More so, Quinn when it's just him, as he is more passionate. When he's with Rose, she tends to whine about things more so than show a situation for what it is and/or the ridiculous life of the Obama administration.

 

[MsMusicRadio]

60's Top 40 was extremely conservative and us teen-age libdems in college just ignored it. Although songs like "Eve of Destruction' and "Brown Sugar" made the airwaves, the DJ's were mostly apolitical. Some stations like WMCA and WQAM had conservative dress codes for air staff. Nobody expected DJ's to comment on Viet Nam during the submarine races. Until underground FM began, we did not expect radio to reflect our views. We (meaning the Sixties Hippies) just grooved to Dan Ingram or whomever and knew the radio wouldn't play it unless you laid it between the lines. I am not surprised nor appalled that some Sixties jocks became right-wing radio stars. I just don't listen to them, but I find NPR boring too.

 

[Snafu]

In his heyday there wasn't a better jock on the radio anywhere on Planet Earth than Jim. That he knew it too is beside the point.

Jim has found his late in life niche and is exploiting it to the hilt. Like the Phillies 47 year old Jamie Moyer he lost his fastball a long time ago and lives on the margins with a curveball and a sinker. Like Moyer he gets the job done. It isn't pretty a lot of times but it works.

Here's another argument to consider: that a political morning show that caters to an extreme segment of the politcal spectrum can be number 1 12+ tells you more about who doesn't listen to the radio anymore than it does about the quality of this particular program.

 

[Boss Radio]

60's Top 40 was extremely conservative

Huh? It was about playing the hits and selling Coca Cola. There was no ideology.

 

[Boss Radio]

Here's another argument to consider: that a political morning show that caters to an extreme segment of the politcal spectrum can be number 1 12+ tells you more about who doesn't listen to the radio anymore than it does about the quality of this particular program.

Excellent point.

 

[MsMusicRadio]

60's Top 40 was extremely conservative

Huh? It was about playing the hits and selling Coca Cola. There was no ideology.

That is my point. To 'wild and crazy' hippies, no ideology was being conservative. It was also about selling suntan lotion and acne medications. In the mid-Sixties, the only Top 40 DJ's I can remember with "long hair" were Quinn the Eskimo (he milked that too) and Ji-im Stagg on CFL. When I cruised the Sunset Strip, I was confident there would be no politics on Boss Radio.

 

[Talk_Dude]

60's Top 40 was extremely conservative

Huh? It was about playing the hits and selling Coca Cola. There was no ideology.

That is my point. To 'wild and crazy' hippies, no ideology was being conservative. It was also about selling suntan lotion and acne medications. In the mid-Sixties, the only Top 40 DJ's I can remember with "long hair" were Quinn the Eskimo (he milked that too) and Ji-im Stagg on CFL. When I cruised the Sunset Strip, I was confident there would be no politics on Boss Radio.

You are correct. And, in addition to what you said, there's the fact that songs with any controversy in the lyrics were seldom played on the air. The only exceptions were "safe" controversial songs that could be exploited. It was also about making the hits, not playing the hits. Talk to anyone who worked in radio, and they'll swear that they only played the songs that sold well. Talk to anyone who worked for a record label, and they'll swear that any piece of crap would sell if it got radio airplay.

Come to think of it, wasn't that what the whole "payola" scandal was all about?

And when it came to picking music, the AM Top 40 stations was as conservative as could be. It's a wonder more people didn't go deaf from having their ears plugged with all that terrible bubble-gum music. Maybe that's why they needed the crappy jingles. They jingles and other imaging sounds were so bad that even the 1910 Fruitgum Company sounded better by comparison.

 

[Element9]

What's the ranking Persons 25-54? Neo-con talk works well with upper-demo white folks in the burbs who feel like it's "us against the world." Ain't nothin' wrong with that, it's all about knowing who the audience is and playing to the room. But there's a world of difference between beings #1 12+ and #1 25-54 (or 35-64, for that matter.) Just sayin'.