> Right and when was the last time LA had an active rock
> station?or even a current based rock station (other than
> Kroq) it would have been either of those stations I
> mentioned, 15 years ago correct but since they were the last
> to do it it is hardly irrelevant, what a mindless comment
> for you to make.
The relevance of rock stations 15 to 20 years ago (KNAC died in early 1995) today is zero. The market has changed demographically to such an extent that any data or analyis from that time is, as I said, irrelevant.
Looking at rockers from the 80's and 90's is like looking at KIIS when it first started... when it was a disco station.
> they still are the voice of the
> black
> > > community throughout America
> >
> > With just 60 stations? No way.
>
> You find me a larger African American operated broadcast
> company.....right....there isnt one, that is the
> point.......Clear Channel and CBS may own more urban
> stations (which Im not sure if that is even correct)
If you include gospel, Clear and Radio One are tied. Quite a few Radio One stations are not African-American targeted, by the way. They have a CHR in Minneapolis, a brokered talker in Miami, a Spanish station in Houston, etc., etc.
> but
> they're in it to make a buck, theye doing urban because it
> tests where they're doing it. Radio One on the other hand
> while definately tring to make money believes (true or not)
> that they are serving the community, the black community, so
> 60 stations is 60 more than any other African American
> broadcast company.
Radio One is also in it for the money. They are, like SBS, UVN, and Entravision, mostly concentrated in one area formatically. The three publically owned Hispanic groups also know that when you program to such an audience, community service is of the essence. Doing community service, as shown by WDIA through multiple owners (and guess who owns them now?) is the key to such formats. Radio One did not invent service to the Black community... they just recognized the need for it as proven by others back to when such stations advertised in Broadcasting as "Memphis' race station." (Early 50's)
> There really is no point for you to argue
> so why are you attempting to?. Plus likemost you probably
> have an exaggerated idea of just how many blacks are in this
> country, it is a small percentage of the overall demographic
> of America, smaller than you would think,m anywhere from 8
> to 14 percent PERIOD.
There are precise counts of African Americans, updated to 2005, on the U.S. Census website. Blacks are 13.4% of the population or 39.2 million. Hispanics, the largest minority group, are approaching 14%.
I do not have an exaggerated idea of how many of anything there is in the US, right down to working John Deere tractors, as there are plenty of reliable statistical sources for nearly every characteristic of the US population. There is no need to say that the Black population is "naywhere from 8 to 14 percent" when exact numbers exist (and your 8% would undercount by nearly 18 million people!)
>
> DUDE get a clue, I work in a major, top five market too
> but I also know that if you actually get out into AMERICA,
> see if you say "whatever" Most Americans arent in the
> sophisticated cities, they shop at wal mart, etc and live a
> pretty low key life, the major cities are not
> representattive of America unfortunately.
Big cities for the average middle class or blue collar worker tend to be more like lots of small cities glued together.
I work in markets ranging from Harlingen, TX to some outside the US that are larger than New York's metro. And I have worked in markets ranging from Lake City, FL (less than 20 thousand) and Lago Agrio, Ecuador (same) to Mexico City (23 million). Generally, I have found that people all walk on two legs, put their shoes on one foot at a time and are more similar than different all over.
> There are more
> tiny hamlets than big cities in this country and thats where
> middle American culture is, the culture that most media
> outlets on a national sacle cater to. whhat about that dont
> you get??
Who, other than you, said I did not get it? Even if you work in a big market, listeners listen one set of ears at a time.