CTListener said:
I have heard that last year on Austin's KKMJ, and this year on Austin's KXBT. Never heard the edit though. I think 1069_KIFR thought this post was about Radio songs that annoy.
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I have heard that last year on Austin's KKMJ, and this year on Austin's KXBT. Never heard the edit though. I think 1069_KIFR thought this post was about Radio songs that annoy.
I've can't find an edit of E.F. either. On-line samplings all sound the same. I think you're right, KIFR's post appears to be protesting a song, as opposed to a version.willdav713 said:
Since Edmund Fitzgerald was a "story" song, I would think that story songs would be hard to edit without fundamentally changing the meaning of the song. Wouldn't they?jfrancispastirchak said:
Good Point.firepoint525 said:
Although if you consider "American Pie" a story song, eliminating the concluding verse for a fade of the uptempo refrain, as the radio edit does, could be considered cutting the story short.jfrancispastirchak said:
"American Pie" does indeed tell the story of music history from the '50s through the '70s (if you can read between the lines well enough!), but I really had Jim Croce's story songs in mind. (I believe the edit of "American Pie" that you described is probably side one of the 45.) Of course, I should point that Croce's songs weren't as long as "American Pie."
firepoint525 said:
Yep, no need to drop Leroy's fateful barroom brawl from "Bad Bad Leroy Brown" or Big Jim's pool hall comeuppance from "You Don't Mess Around With Jim."
I'm still waiting to hear the chopped-out verses of "California Dreamin'" and "Delta Dawn." Yeah, I know they don't have any, but both songs have sounded incomplete to me since I first heard them.
firepoint525 said:
Way back when "American Pie" was new, I heard an "interpretation" of the song played on our local top 40 station, WLCY 1380 (Tampa). You would hear a verse, then the song would stop and someone would tell you what the verse meant, then onto the next, and so on. I liked the interpretation so much that I (who was 13 or 14 at the time) wrote to WLCY and asked them where I could buy a copy of this song. I remember they wrote back to me and told me it wasn't available, that this was made by KMEN (San Bernardino, CA, close to where I live now) and they had no plans to release it at all.
I have never heard it again since that time, and have often wondered if anyone else heard this at all. Maybe it was picked up by other stations at the time, and someone out there has a cassette or reel copy of it? Anyone else know about this at all? Maybe I'm the only person that remembers it...
Bob Dearborn of WCFL did his analysis of it as well Scott Westerman's breakdown of it on KRKE and XM/SIRIUS in 2010...Dearborn's version was done after the record hit the charts in 1971..which would be the version you remember.. I also heard it a few times.. http://user.pa.net/~ejjeff/pie.html here is a link to a page that has the Bob Dearborn version on it...you will have to scroll down about halfway to play it..
deltas69 said:
Thanks for that link, I haven't been able to get it to play yet (Won't play/connect with VLC player, maybe have to have Real Player installed to get it to play). Too bad it's not a simple download. Do you think this is the same version that came from K/MEN? If it is, I wonder why credit wasn't given to WCFL? In any case, I'll find a way to save it, just for the memories. Not that I need to hear American Pie for the 10,000th time, but you know once in a while someone starts talking about the song and what it supposedly means. It'd be nice to pull out the 'translation' version for them.
Mike Walker said:
I just heard "Jet Airliner" the unedited to custom edited version yesterday on KXBT between 12:55pm and 1:00pm, they did a cool edit of it (they needle scratched over sh#t) I hope BMP sells the station to Brazos Valley Communications or whomever will keep it's format alive as UT tabled the decision to purchase the station last month.
Borrowing my reply from the other thread, and posting it here:willdav713 said:
WLS used to play their own custom edit of the album version, with the "funky kicks" flown in from the single edit. That makes more sense than some ridiculous "needle scratch" over an obscenity. Not sure why they would actually want to draw MORE attention to an obscenity.
buster2 said:
The edit comes after Steve sings "one more day.... your way.." and it chops "way" in half, splicing it to "be" (on "can you be..." during a repeat of the the first verse) before the song goes into the fake syntho-sax bridge. So it's "your wayEEeeee..."
Billy Joel's "My Life" has been mentioned, but in "The Entertainer," he specifically lays into radio edits in one telling verse:
"...it was a beautiful song, but it ran too long,
If you wanna be a hit, you gotta make it fit,
So they cut it down to 3:05..."
And indeed, the edited "Entertainer" runs 3:05. (The second verse, where he sings about having "laid all kinds of girls," was cut.)
Then there's another of his songs, "Piano Man":
"Now John at the bar is a friend of mine,
He gets me my drinks for free,
And he's quick with a joke, or a light of your smoke,
But there's some place that he'd rather be..."
And the radio edit jumps to "And the waitress is practicing politics, as the businessmen slowly get stoned..." while we never get to hear where John would rather be.
("He said 'Bill, I believe this is killing me,'
as the smile ran away from his face,
'Well, I'm sure that I could be a movie star,
if I could get out of this place.'
la la la de de da...
Now Paul is a real estate novelist
who never had time for a wife
And he's talking with Davy who's still in the navy
and probably will be for life.")
The edit to "Three Times a Lady" was bothersome, not so much because of verse 2 being axed, but because Lionel Richie's buildup at the end was blunted.
Dan Hill's "Sometimes When We Touch" had its third verse cut; during that verse, the orchestra was swelling for the big finish. The edit has the orchestra instantly going from soft to loud, and it's jarring.
The censorship edits: "Jet Airliner" substituting "kicks" for "shit" was mentioned, but there also were these:
Charlie Daniels "The Devil Went Down to Georgia":
Original: "I done told you once, you son of a bitch, I'm the best that's ever been..."
Censored: "Cause I told you once, you son of a gun..."
Jimmy Buffett "Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes":
Original: "Good times and riches, and son of a bitches"(sic)
Censored: "Good times and riches, some bruises and stitches..."
And then there was an edit of Van Morrison's "Brown Eyed Girl" that Gulf 104 (which played "Who Are You" with the F-bomb intact) played well into the last decade; it omitted the "making love in the green grass" line by cutting and pasting "laughing and a-runnin' hey, hey" from the first verse over it.
One of the oddest edits was to Wild Cherry's "Play That Funky Music," in which the words "white boy" were deleted. ??? The chorus goes "play that funky music, hey, funky music, play that funky music right..."
I read that the change in "Lola" from Coca-Cola to cherry cola was for British airplay; the BBC has never allowed mentions of products in songs. Similarly, in Jimmy Buffett's "Come Monday," the line "I got my Hush Puppies on" was altered to "I got my hiking boots on..."
Lionel Ritchies "Running with the Night" edit which clocks in at 4:21 or so. Which is also on his Greatest Hit's CD. I would also like to add.
Also, add Penny Lover as it is not the same song as the first release of Lionel's Hit.
Chicago's "25 or 6 2 4" Not complete without the full instrumental before the last verse. The only version Bob FM seems to play.
Alan O'Day's Undercover Angel (yes there is a radio edit for that one as well)
Micheal Jackson's "The way you make me feel" is another one. (one of the reasons why I had my radio on either Q96 or Power 93, and not Hot 103 KTFM) although I should also post some of these in "Radio Edits of the 80s."
Also, add Penny Lover as it is not the same song as the first release of Lionel's Hit.
Chicago's "25 or 6 2 4" Not complete without the full instrumental before the last verse. The only version Bob FM seems to play.
Alan O'Day's Undercover Angel (yes there is a radio edit for that one as well)
Micheal Jackson's "The way you make me feel" is another one. (one of the reasons why I had my radio on either Q96 or Power 93, and not Hot 103 KTFM) although I should also post some of these in "Radio Edits of the 80s."
Curious when they re edit a line as ..say Charlie Daniels SOB to SOA GUN...does the artist come in a do that line ? Does the artist have say so over making the edit ? Somewhere I think I read in the case of 'Devil Went Down"...that Charlie himself decided to soften the language as he got older...
The "son of a gun" version has existed on 45 ever since its days as a hit back in 1979. Probably wouldn't have gotten played, otherwise.deltas69 said:
firepoint525 said:
True. Before the edit was released, one station just cut out the offending word rather than bleep it, so we got "I done told you once, I'm the best that's ever been..."
Another Charlie Daniels song, "Uneasy Rider," was hashed up in its edit; half of one verse would be tacked on to the second half of the next verse, so the rhymes were lost.
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