Radiosophy Radio

[R.F. Burns]

Every one of your links points to a blog or comment of an HD detractor calling it a cartel. Nobody with any authority has yet to say so.

So, there is not a cartel. It is simply the opinion of a few that it is.

Again, saying that something is something does not make it true.

If you wish to remain intentionally ignorant, that's your problem. There IS an HD Radio cartel, whose existence is quite out in the open. Continuing to deny it just makes you look stupid. The links have been provided to you. It's not anyone's opinion. It's not pulled out of thin air. Funny how those of us who actually work in broadcasting know all about it, and you think it's "simply the opinion of a few."

In case you forgot: http://www.hdradioalliance.com/index.php This time, try actually reading it instead of denying its existence.

Enough name calling. What does it matter. HD is now the standard and will appear in At least one Hyundai model next year. HD is gaining and all the cartel and anti talk means nothing. What matters is that HD is growing with more stations and receivers appearing every day.

 

[dbdigital]

Although the subject was the satcaster merger, I really thought broadcaster Gary West's remarks quoted in today's LA Radio column on the NAB's dishonesty was right on target regarding HD Radio and the monopoly that the HD-Radio cartel is creating.

Quoting a portion of Gary's remarks:

"Was that KIIS/fm or any other fm station in the country is now 3 stations? Yup! Clear Channel now has about 3,600 stations to happily program plus analog.

You get a license for one, plus three extra to boot. It's an amazing time for broadcasters and a dream. How can you possibly argue monopoly? The combined Satellite services have about 300 channels. The terrestrial guys just a got [total] of around 25,000 new channels across the country."

It's nice to see that another industry professional recognizes that HD-Radio is giving media conglomerates free extra "stations" which, in turn, gives the cartel additional power over the public airwaves.

db

Gee, HDTV is the same thing. Where's the outrage there?

Nice try, folks....

That's right. And many in the HD Cartel own television stations too, often in the same market.

Besides, this is the HD Radio forum so any outrage over HDTV would be inappropriate. Nice try.

db

 

[PocketRadio]

Every one of your links points to a blog or comment of an HD detractor calling it a cartel. Nobody with any authority has yet to say so.

So, there is not a cartel. It is simply the opinion of a few that it is.

Again, saying that something is something does not make it true.

If you wish to remain intentionally ignorant, that's your problem. There IS an HD Radio cartel, whose existence is quite out in the open. Continuing to deny it just makes you look stupid. The links have been provided to you. It's not anyone's opinion. It's not pulled out of thin air. Funny how those of us who actually work in broadcasting know all about it, and you think it's "simply the opinion of a few."

In case you forgot: http://www.hdradioalliance.com/index.php This time, try actually reading it instead of denying its existence.

Enough name calling. What does it matter. HD is now the standard and will appear in At least one Hyundai model next year. HD is gaining and all the cartel and anti talk means nothing. What matters is that HD is growing with more stations and receivers appearing every day.

HD/IBOC is A standard, not THE standard, but it means nothing without consumer acceptance. Hyundai is only offering HD Radio as an OPTION in ONE of their PREMIUM sedans.

 

[IBOCRocks]

Every one of your links points to a blog or comment of an HD detractor calling it a cartel. Nobody with any authority has yet to say so.

So, there is not a cartel. It is simply the opinion of a few that it is.

Again, saying that something is something does not make it true.

If you wish to remain intentionally ignorant, that's your problem. There IS an HD Radio cartel, whose existence is quite out in the open. Continuing to deny it just makes you look stupid. The links have been provided to you. It's not anyone's opinion. It's not pulled out of thin air. Funny how those of us who actually work in broadcasting know all about it, and you think it's "simply the opinion of a few."

In case you forgot: http://www.hdradioalliance.com/index.php This time, try actually reading it instead of denying its existence.

Enough name calling. What does it matter. HD is now the standard and will appear in At least one Hyundai model next year. HD is gaining and all the cartel and anti talk means nothing. What matters is that HD is growing with more stations and receivers appearing every day.

HD/IBOC is A standard, not THE standard, but it means nothing without consumer acceptance. Hyundai is only offering HD Radio as an OPTION in ONE of their PREMIUM sedans.

Which is why it's a good thing that consumer acceptance is on the rise!

 

[johneb2johneb2]

When I opened this thread, it was to seek opinion on the performance of the Radiosophy Radio. I was under the impression it was being supported by certain people within the HD Radio industry. I did not want it to migrate whether or not it a HD Cartel, HD Alliance or whatever you want to designate it exists or doesn't exist. Maybe my choice of HD Cartel was a poor choice of words. What I really want is opinions on the performance of the unit. So far, am I to gather that only one individual has purchased the unit.
John E B

 

[pepe]

I bought a Radiosophy radio and must admit, I'm underwhelmed. I also own a Boston Accoustic Recepter and a Radio Shack Accurian. I like the Radiosophy unit the least of the three. I know this is totally subjective, but the Radiosophy unit seems to have the worst sound quality and I simply don't like the way the buttons and controls work. It also is the one of the three that doesn't have a remote control, which I've grown to like on the others.

oh well..... that's one opinion

 

[EbolaMonkey]

FIrst of all there's a difference between standard radio where you have many owners even with the three or 4 huge owners and Satellite (who also have their own board for this discussion) who is hoping for a single owner IE; a monoploy. Try as you might terrestrial broadcasting is not a monoploy.

R.F., maybe terrestrial radio isn't a pure monopoly. But the current ownership rules definitely fly in the face of free market capitalism. A small number of companies own obscenely huge pieces of the pie.

One result is that, in most markets, there are very few stations with the same format that go head-to-head. The big companies mostly choose formats with no competition and take whatever revenue goes with them.

One noteworthy exception is AM Talk. You find a lot of head-to-head competitions, but not very many trying to do it locally. It's syndictation line-up vs. syndication line-up.

Some of us choose to use the term "monopoly" for radio, even though it isn't the best word choice. The bottom line is that current ownership rules don't allow for healthy competition.

 

[R.F. Burns]

FIrst of all there's a difference between standard radio where you have many owners even with the three or 4 huge owners and Satellite (who also have their own board for this discussion) who is hoping for a single owner IE; a monoploy. Try as you might terrestrial broadcasting is not a monoploy.

R.F., maybe terrestrial radio isn't a pure monopoly. But the current ownership rules definitely fly in the face of free market capitalism. A small number of companies own obscenely huge pieces of the pie.

One result is that, in most markets, there are very few stations with the same format that go head-to-head. The big companies mostly choose formats with no competition and take whatever revenue goes with them.

One noteworthy exception is AM Talk. You find a lot of head-to-head competitions, but not very many trying to do it locally. It's syndictation line-up vs. syndication line-up.

Some of us choose to use the term "monopoly" for radio, even though it isn't the best word choice. The bottom line is that current ownership rules don't allow for healthy competition.

I'm not thrilled that the old 7, 7 & 5 rules still apply. You can thank the government for that. Still, there are hundreds of radio stations owners nationally. Having one company own the Satellite distribution in this country is a monoply plain and simple.