Randi Rhodes joins Premiere Radio Networks

[argentarius]

I hope CC drops Hannity or Savage here in Pittsburgh and puts Randi on.

I hope the Pirates win the World Series. That's not gonna happen either.....

CC has a financial interest in Randi now. Something they don't have in Savage. It's not as crazy an idea as you think. Remember, follow the money.

 

[argentarius]

Rhodes may have some appeal in New York and South Florida with her Brooklyn/Queens attitude, but her act doesn't fly in most of the country. And she's gotten more obnoxious in the last couple of years, rudely cutting off callers (including many who agree with her) and going on ad nauseum about her personal life and celebrity friends.

and Portland, and San Francisco and LA, and Buffalo and.....I have been listening to Randi via internet and XM for several years. I do not find her especially rude, certainly not more so than Hannity or Savage or Ingraham. If Premiere didn't think she could attract a significant audience, they would not be throwing money her way. My guess is they will put her on some of their stations in mid sized markets and see where it sticks. She didn't have much to work with at AAR and certainly not at Nova M. Premiere is another whole ballgame. I think your prediction about losing half her stations from three years ago will be proven wrong. I don't know how many stations she was on back then, but you can't compare AAR with Premiere. Give them time, and she will be the # 1 progressive talker. Ed Schultz has found a significant enough audience to find himself employed by MSNBC. The reason Randi will survive is simple - she is a class act broadcaster who can sell soap.

 

[NewsVet]

If Premiere didn't think she could attract a significant audience, they would not be throwing money her way. My guess is they will put her on some of their stations in mid sized markets and see where it sticks. She didn't have much to work with at AAR and certainly not at Nova M. Premiere is another whole ballgame. I think your prediction about losing half her stations from three years ago will be proven wrong. I don't know how many stations she was on back then, but you can't compare AAR with Premiere. Give them time, and she will be the # 1 progressive talker. Ed Schultz has found a significant enough audience to find himself employed by MSNBC. The reason Randi will survive is simple - she is a class act broadcaster who can sell soap.

So far she's on a grand total of eleven stations.
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/affiliates.html

That's less than half the number she was on when NovaM was syndicating her and less than one-sixth the number she had in 2006 when she was on Air America. Ed Schultz has appeal in fly-over country. Rhodes does not. And a class act she is definitely not.

 

[SeanMGilbow]

   If Premiere didn't think she could attract a significant audience, they would not be throwing money her way.  My guess is they will put her on some of their stations in mid sized markets and see where it sticks.  She didn't have much to work with at AAR and certainly not at Nova M.  Premiere is another whole ballgame.  I think your prediction about losing half her stations from three years ago will be proven wrong.  I don't know how many stations she was on back then, but you can't compare AAR with Premiere.  Give them time, and she will be the # 1 progressive talker.  Ed Schultz has found a significant enough audience to find himself employed by MSNBC.  The reason Randi will survive is simple - she is a class act broadcaster who can sell soap.

So far she's on a grand total of eleven stations.
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/affiliates.html

That's less than half the number she was on when NovaM was syndicating her and less than one-sixth the number she had in 2006 when she was on Air America.  Ed Schultz has appeal in fly-over country.  Rhodes does not.  And a class act she is definitely not.

And she's only been on seven days.

 

[MikefromDelaware]

From the Randy Rhodes web site, here are the 11 stations currently carrying her show via Premiere:

KTLK-AM 1150 Los Angeles, CA www.progressivetalk1150.com
KKGN-AM 960 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA www.green960.com
KPTK-AM 1090 Seattle-Tacoma, WA www.am1090seattle.com
KPOJ-AM 620 Portland, OR www.620kpoj.com
WJNO-AM 1290 West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce, FL www.wjno.com
WWKB-AM 1520 Buffalo, NY www.kb1520.com
WNYY-AM 1470 Syracuse, NY www.1470wnyy.com
KJFK-AM 1230 Reno, NV www.1230kjfk.com
KIST-AM 1490 Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-San Luis Obispo, www.sbprogressivetalk.com
KRXA-AM 540 Monterey-Salinas, CA www.krxa540.com
KUDO-AM 1080 Anchorage, AK www.kudo1080.com

A couple of these station's web addresses show off their liberal slant. This may be a way for CC via Premiere to make money using a liberal format, not to replace the conservative format that is working well in other cities, but to capitalize on places where lib talk would sell and get ratings. My guess is, look to see more East and West Coast stations picking up Rhodes to replace either Savage, or Ingraham both are non-Premiere shows.

 

[Leebo65]

As a listener I turned Rhandi off when she started calling people who want secure borders Racists.. That turned me off. She is also too sympathetic to Palistinian Freedom-Fighters...LOL I guess they love that stuff in San Francisco...

 

[Parttimer]

From the Randy Rhodes web site, here are the 11 stations currently carrying her show via Premiere:

KTLK-AM 1150 Los Angeles, CA www.progressivetalk1150.com
KKGN-AM 960 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA www.green960.com
KPTK-AM 1090 Seattle-Tacoma, WA www.am1090seattle.com
KPOJ-AM 620 Portland, OR www.620kpoj.com
WJNO-AM 1290 West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce, FL www.wjno.com
WWKB-AM 1520 Buffalo, NY www.kb1520.com
WNYY-AM 1470 Syracuse, NY www.1470wnyy.com
KJFK-AM 1230 Reno, NV www.1230kjfk.com
KIST-AM 1490 Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-San Luis Obispo, www.sbprogressivetalk.com
KRXA-AM 540 Monterey-Salinas, CA www.krxa540.com
KUDO-AM 1080 Anchorage, AK www.kudo1080.com

A couple of these station's web addresses show off their liberal slant. This may be a way for CC via Premiere to make money using a liberal format, not to replace the conservative format that is working well in other cities, but to capitalize on places where lib talk would sell and get ratings. My guess is, look to see more East and West Coast stations picking up Rhodes to replace either Savage, or Ingraham both are non-Premiere shows.

Clear Channel owns the stations in LA, SF, and West Palm (and Premiere is Clear Channel). That's all they cared about was putting her on those markets and proabably Seattle-Portland. She airs in PM drive in the east, so I don't look for a roster of 50,000 watt blowtorches carrying her live.

 

[willcail]

Well Randi finally home, since majority Premiere Radio Networks talkers are nothing more that loudmouth no-nothings. Randi, Rush, Glenn, Hannity are one in the same.

 

[NewsVet]

A couple of these station's web addresses show off their liberal slant. This may be a way for CC via Premiere to make money using a liberal format, not to replace the conservative format that is working well in other cities, but to capitalize on places where lib talk would sell and get ratings. My guess is, look to see more East and West Coast stations picking up Rhodes to replace either Savage, or Ingraham both are non-Premiere shows.

Clear Channel owns the stations in LA, SF, and West Palm (and Premiere is Clear Channel). That's all they cared about was putting her on those markets and proabably Seattle-Portland. She airs in PM drive in the east, so I don't look for a roster of 50,000 watt blowtorches carrying her live.

All the stations on the list have been progressive talk stations for some time. All carried Rhodes before her split with NovaM, so the fact that they're still carrying her is no surprise. What is somewhat disappointing from her point of view is that more than half the stations that WERE carrying her are NOT carrying her now that she's being syndicated by Premiere. And if Premiere has any intention of putting her on stations that are now carrying Savage or Ingraham it has shown no indication that it will. So far the only mostly conservative station carrying Rhodes is her old home station, WJNO in Palm Beach, and even there she's been shunted off to evenings since Hannity got better ratings in her old drive time slot than she did when she was in it.

 

[Parttimer]

So far the only mostly conservative station carrying Rhodes is her old home station, WJNO in Palm Beach, and even there she's been shunted off to evenings since Hannity got better ratings in her old drive time slot than she did when she was in it.

After her incredible success against Hannity in NY? Unbelievable!!

 

[argentarius]

So far she's on a grand total of eleven stations.
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/affiliates.html

That's less than half the number she was on when NovaM was syndicating her and less than one-sixth the number she had in 2006 when she was on Air America. Ed Schultz has appeal in fly-over country. Rhodes does not. And a class act she is definitely not.
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Randi added seven new stations effective June 1st. My guess is this is just the beginning.

 

[NewsVet]

So Rhodes has now been syndicated by Premiere for six and a half months and she's still on fewer stations than when she was on NovaM and less than half as many as when she was on Air America. She's just been dropped by 50,000 watt KPTK in Seattle. Guess all that talk by her fans about Clear Channel putting her on "hundreds" of their stations was wishful thinking squared.
http://www.randirhodes.com/pages/affiliates.html

So far she's on a grand total of eleven stations.
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/affiliates.html

That's less than half the number she was on when NovaM was syndicating her and less than one-sixth the number she had in 2006 when she was on Air America. Ed Schultz has appeal in fly-over country. Rhodes does not. And a class act she is definitely not.

Randi added seven new stations effective June 1st. My guess is this is just the beginning.
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[smedge2006]

That's probably the idea. They sign her, make a half-arsed effort to clear her, then fold after a year and declare "See! Liberal talk doesn't work!" It's a self-fulfilling prophecy to please the talent they really care about (Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity).

 

[The Ultimate Warrior]

That's probably the idea. They sign her, make a half-arsed effort to clear her, then fold after a year and declare "See! Liberal talk doesn't work!" It's a self-fulfilling prophecy to please the talent they really care about (Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity).

Everything is a conspiracy.

If they wanted to make the "liberal talk doesn't work" couldn't they just use all the other examples of it failing?

Trust me they try to clear that show and all their shows.

Sometimes a failure is just a failure.

 

[MikefromDelaware]

What did KPTK Seattle replace Rhodes with? Another lib talker or a conservative talker? Seattle isn't exactly known as the bastion of conservatism, so if lib talk isn't working there, I'd think that isn't a very good sign for the long term success of liberal talk.

Of course, on the other hand, I'm assuming a major market like Seattle, especially a liberal market like Seattle would have an NPR station. So it may be possible that the majority of the talk show listeners their prefer NPR talk over another lib talker on a commercial network, no matter who it is. This could also explain why commercial lib talk isn't more popular in most of the nation as NPR has stations in most markets taking the lib talk audience away from the commercial lib talkers.

Maybe someone who has access to real numbers (I know you can't share the actual numbers, but you can relate what they mean) could tell us if what I'm suggesting is remotely possible.

 

[NewsVet]

KPTK replaced Rhodes with another lib talker, Norman Goldman, a lawyer who's now syndicated after filling in many times for Ed Schultz. KPTK, which is lib talk 24 hours a day, does fairly well in the ratings, considering that it has no local shows and hardly any promotion.

What did KPTK Seattle replace Rhodes with? Another lib talker or a conservative talker? Seattle isn't exactly known as the bastion of conservatism, so if lib talk isn't working there, I'd think that isn't a very good sign for the long term success of liberal talk.

Of course, on the other hand, I'm assuming a major market like Seattle, especially a liberal market like Seattle would have an NPR station. So it may be possible that the majority of the talk show listeners their prefer NPR talk over another lib talker on a commercial network, no matter who it is. This could also explain why commercial lib talk isn't more popular in most of the nation as NPR has stations in most markets taking the lib talk audience away from the commercial lib talkers.

Maybe someone who has access to real numbers (I know you can't share the actual numbers, but you can relate what they mean) could tell us if what I'm suggesting is remotely possible.

 

[NewsVet]

I should have said that KPTK gets fairly good 25-54 ratings. The overall ratings...not so good.

KPTK replaced Rhodes with another lib talker, Norman Goldman, a lawyer who's now syndicated after filling in many times for Ed Schultz. KPTK, which is lib talk 24 hours a day, does fairly well in the ratings, considering that it has no local shows and hardly any promotion.

 

[livingfruitvirus]

So Rhodes has now been syndicated by Premiere for six and a half months and she's still on fewer stations than when she was on NovaM and less than half as many as when she was on Air America. She's just been dropped by 50,000 watt KPTK in Seattle. Guess all that talk by her fans about Clear Channel putting her on "hundreds" of their stations was wishful thinking squared.
http://www.randirhodes.com/pages/affiliates.html

I wouldn't compare the affiliate listing to AAR, who was buying time on stations. I'm not sure why she doesn't have as many as NovaM. Maybe there are stations who don't want to deal with Premiere? Or some don't agree with the losing 2 minutes of advertising time per hour.

KPTK replaced Rhodes with another lib talker, Norman Goldman, a lawyer who's now syndicated after filling in many times for Ed Schultz. KPTK, which is lib talk 24 hours a day, does fairly well in the ratings, considering that it has no local shows and hardly any promotion.

Goldman's syndicated by Compass Media. They're offering a nice deal by allowing affiliates to only run one minute of barter inventory for the first 6 months. The normal allotted local time is 16:10 local 5:00 net.

 

[NewsVet]

I wouldn't compare the affiliate listing to AAR, who was buying time on stations.

Air America bought time on only three stations, which makes your argument pretty much irrelevent.

 

[Ultimajock]

That's probably the idea. They sign her, make a half-arsed effort to clear her, then fold after a year and declare "See! Liberal talk doesn't work!" It's a self-fulfilling prophecy to please the talent they really care about (Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity).

...and the scam is as old as Tom Leykis' first years as a politically-moderate talker on Westwood One. I know of at least two stations who ran Leykis for ONE WEEK in 1994 -- in one case, Thanksgiving Week at that -- before pulling the plug on him because their Limbot audience bitched too much about it...