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toddjammin

Ratings are out with some big changes. check it out.

I can't believe ESPN Radio beat out K ROCK!!!!<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by toddjammin on 03/02/06 10:10 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> Ratings are out with some big changes. check it out.
>
> I can't believe ESPN Radio beat out K ROCK!!!!
>
heres the link
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I knew that bobfm would do good.<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm & 937krock rocks down the house give me an amen.</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by SamBuca on 03/03/06 02:20 PM.</FONT></P>
 
I can

Steelers in the Super Bowl? Of course the station could beat out K-Rock without Stern. Even WBGG did their best rating ever with the Steelers in the Super Bowl.

I honestly don't think it's time for K-Rock to fold its tent as I believe a rock alternative to WDVE and The X is needed.

Here are some things I noticed.

KDKA is officially the No. 2 station in town. WDVE is now, after years and years, the top dog in town.

The problem is it is more likely because of the demise of KDKA and WDVE staying the course than anything else.

WPTT is dead. Toast. Lib talk ain't workin'.

As cold as it is to say, one wonders if WEAE getting its best book ever with Mark Madden on the sidelines for much of the period says that his effect is not as great as previously thought.

What happened to WDSY? They were No. 1 for a ratings period last summer and now are four points back of first?
 
Re: I can

> Steelers in the Super Bowl? Of course the station could beat
> out K-Rock without Stern. Even WBGG did their best rating
> ever with the Steelers in the Super Bowl.
>
> I honestly don't think it's time for K-Rock to fold its tent
> as I believe a rock alternative to WDVE and The X is needed.
>
>
> Here are some things I noticed.
>
> KDKA is officially the No. 2 station in town. WDVE is now,
> after years and years, the top dog in town.
>
> The problem is it is more likely because of the demise of
> KDKA and WDVE staying the course than anything else.
>
> WPTT is dead. Toast. Lib talk ain't workin'.
>
> As cold as it is to say, one wonders if WEAE getting its
> best book ever with Mark Madden on the sidelines for much of
> the period says that his effect is not as great as
> previously thought.

It's hard to say about WEAE. Mark Madden was gone about 2 and a half weeks. So you could be right about that. I think a lot of people are tired of his rudeness to callers. He is constantly calling someone a jack a** or idiot.
>
> What happened to WDSY? They were No. 1 for a ratings period
> last summer and now are four points back of first?
>
 
K-Rock's rating is lower than WBZZ's lowest during
its dark, final days. WRKZ won't make it to 2007.



> > Ratings are out with some big changes. check it out.
> >
> > I can't believe ESPN Radio beat out K ROCK!!!!
> >
> heres the link
http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/DetailsPage.aspx?MID=200&RY=2006&RQ=1&MP=1&OTHER=2&MN=Pittsburgh&MS=PA&MR=23&12P=20151> 00&UP=3/2/2006&SU=CM&BPER=7.9&HPER=&OPER=&NSD=3/30/2006&CE=0
>
>
>
> I knew that bobfm would do good.
>
 
> K-Rock's rating is lower than WBZZ's lowest during
> its dark, final days. WRKZ won't make it to 2007.
>
> I just knew once Stern was gone, K ROCK was going to go way down. They will be lucky I think to make it another month in my opinion.
>
> > > Ratings are out with some big changes. check it out.
> > >
> > > I can't believe ESPN Radio beat out K ROCK!!!!
> > >
> > heres the link
http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/DetailsPage.aspx?MID=200&RY> =2006&RQ=1&MP=1&OTHER=2&MN=Pittsburgh&MS=PA&MR=23&12P=20151>
> 00&UP=3/2/2006&SU=CM&BPER=7.9&HPER=&OPER=&NSD=3/30/2006&CE=0
>
> >
> >
> >
> > I knew that bobfm would do good.
> >
>
 
Re: I can

> Steelers in the Super Bowl? Of course the station could beat
> out K-Rock without Stern. Even WBGG did their best rating
> ever with the Steelers in the Super Bowl.
>
> I honestly don't think it's time for K-Rock to fold its tent
> as I believe a rock alternative to WDVE and The X is needed.
>
>
> Here are some things I noticed.
>
> KDKA is officially the No. 2 station in town. WDVE is now,
> after years and years, the top dog in town.
>
> The problem is it is more likely because of the demise of
> KDKA and WDVE staying the course than anything else.
>
> WPTT is dead. Toast. Lib talk ain't workin'.
>
> As cold as it is to say, one wonders if WEAE getting its
> best book ever with Mark Madden on the sidelines for much of
> the period says that his effect is not as great as
> previously thought.
>
> What happened to WDSY? They were No. 1 for a ratings period
> last summer and now are four points back of first?
>

OK, so the steelers had a really big impact on the ratings this time. It will be interesting to see if DVE keeps the ratings up after the a few weeks pass, I'm sure some of this is just a novelty thing.

Looks like Star lost their listeners to Bob, but it is still too early to tell if this format will survive this market.

Where did all the WDSY listeners go???

How did WPGB get more listeners? Did they get all the listeners that got tired of the same old boring deal listening to WPTT? WPTT could be a good niche format likeit is in other metro's, but how many times can you listen to the same thing over and over from mediocre shows?

The only thing I can say about WXDX and WRKZ is that maybe their listeners went to DVE due to the steelers, but will they come back to them in the real question.

Thoughts?<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by HamPGH on 03/03/06 01:14 AM.</FONT></P>
 
You know why they failed, right???......

Not enough billboards!!


> K-Rock's rating is lower than WBZZ's lowest during
> its dark, final days. WRKZ won't make it to 2007.
>
>
>
>
 
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> How did WPGB get more listeners? Did they get all the
> listeners that got tired of the same old boring deal
> listening to WPTT? WPTT could be a good niche format likeit
> is in other metro's, but how many times can you listen to
> the same thing over and over from mediocre shows?
>

Remember that the ratings have two components; number of listeners and time spent listening. Higher ratings might just mean that the current listeners stayed longer, and you can't tell that from just the 12+ numbers.<P ID="signature">______________
"With God as my witness, I could have sworn turkeys could fly."</P>
 
Re: Linking to ratings site not permitted

Please be aware that linking to that site is prohibited, it's a copyright violation.<P ID="signature">______________
"With God as my witness, I could have sworn turkeys could fly."</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Part-timer on 03/03/06 02:23 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Linking to ratings site not permitted

> Please be aware that linking to that site is prohibited,
> it's a copyright violation.
>


This is pittsburgh right? Then the link is ok why is it copyrighted this isn't WWE is it.<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm & 937krock rocks down the house give me an amen.</P>
 
Nope wrong again i say they need a new morning show. And change to a V.H. station with top 40 music and call it 937HitsFm u know mix rap and rock into that too and it better have music from the 40s--50s--60s--70s--80s--90s--2000-- and today. 937HitsFm We play all your hits.


> You know why they failed, right???......
>
> Not enough billboards!!
>
>
> > K-Rock's rating is lower than WBZZ's lowest during
> > its dark, final days. WRKZ won't make it to 2007.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm rocks down the house give me an amen.

937krock and star1007 is flushed down period.</P>
 
Re: I can

> > WPTT is dead. Toast. Lib talk ain't workin'.

Neither woould conservative talk, sports talk, pet talk, hot talk, celebrity gossip talk, or Tibetan poetry. Nothing is going to do very well on 1360 AM regardless of who owns it, how it is promoted, or what is programmed. The signal sucks. Regardless of what the content is, it just sounds terrible. It was never a great sounding signal, but the few times I've attempted to tune it in, I've given up. It's unlistenable. And with voices like Lynn Cullen's, they need all the technical fidelity they can get.

> > What happened to WDSY? They were No. 1 for a ratings
> period
> > last summer and now are four points back of first?

Try competition from four stations called "Froggy".

> Where did all the WDSY listeners go???

Ribbit. Ribbit. Ribbit.

> How did WPGB get more listeners?

Broadcasting good programming with some excellent promotion to let listeners know it was there. That's a combination that's hard to beat.

> The only thing I can say about WXDX and WRKZ is that maybe
> their listeners went to DVE due to the steelers, but will
> they come back to them in the real question.

Even when the Steelers aren't on the air, WDVE simply has better programming than the other two stations. And you know that Clear Channel would never, ever allow WXDX to take listeners away from WDVE, so anything that WXDX might do that would pull listeners from 'DVE ain't gonna happen. As for WRKZ, when I hit the scan button on my radio and it lands on 93.7, they always seem to be playing something that really sucks.
 
Re: I can

> > > WPTT is dead. Toast. Lib talk ain't workin'.
>
> Neither woould conservative talk, sports talk, pet talk, hot
> talk, celebrity gossip talk, or Tibetan poetry. Nothing is
> going to do very well on 1360 AM regardless of who owns it,
> how it is promoted, or what is programmed.
>
> > > What happened to WDSY? They were No. 1 for a ratings
> > period
> > > last summer and now are four points back of first?
>
> Try competition from four stations called "Froggy".
>
> > Where did all the WDSY listeners go???
>
> Ribbit. Ribbit. Ribbit.
>
> > How did WPGB get more listeners?
>
> Broadcasting good programming with some excellent promotion
> to let listeners know it was there. That's a combination
> that's hard to beat.
>
> > The only thing I can say about WXDX and WRKZ is that maybe
>
> > their listeners went to DVE due to the steelers, but will
> > they come back to them in the real question.
>
> Even when the Steelers aren't on the air, WDVE simply has
> better programming than the other two stations. And you know
> that Clear Channel would never, ever allow WXDX to take
> listeners away from WDVE, so anything that WXDX might do
> that would pull listeners from 'DVE ain't gonna happen. As
> for WRKZ, when I hit the scan button on my radio and it
> lands on 93.7, they always seem to be playing something that
> really sucks.
>


DVE better programming lol.... the comedy cuts are stupid and only drunk people listening to that station and some classic rock fans that was like 969 and thats why it's so high.
<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm rocks down the house give me an amen.

937krock and star1007 is flushed down period.</P>
 
But that doesn't explain-

Look, WPTT's signal sucks- that's a given.

But the same sucky signal got 1.5s with Jerry Bower.

Now it's 0.7.

There is no morning show, at least two of their shows are also carried by 104.7 at the same time- their big guns are so past their prime it is scary- I cannot begin to explain how bad that station is.

Quite simply I think they got rid of anything I would ever listen to (Michael Reagan, NASCAR, Neal Boortz, Bower) a long time ago.
 
Ratings and Bob

> Nope wrong again i say they need a new morning show. And
> change to a V.H. station with top 40 music and call it
> 937HitsFm u know mix rap and rock into that too and it
> better have music from the
> 40s--50s--60s--70s--80s--90s--2000-- and today. 937HitsFm We
> play all your hits.

ok,.....so your saying JackFM.just drop the 40's and 50's and 95% of the 60's

I think if that happened Bob would go over to Infinity and open a can of whoop ass on them.... oh thats right Bob already did that...with the ratings

now K-Rot knows how it feels to lose it's morning show, just like WRRK did with Jim Quinn, its not easy to recover from that and it takes years to rebuild from it
 
Re: Ratings and Bob

> > Nope wrong again i say they need a new morning show. And
> > change to a V.H. station with top 40 music and call it
> > 937HitsFm u know mix rap and rock into that too and it
> > better have music from the
> > 40s--50s--60s--70s--80s--90s--2000-- and today. 937HitsFm
> We
> > play all your hits.
>
> ok,.....so your saying JackFM.just drop the 40's and 50's
> and 95% of the 60's
>
> I think if that happened Bob would go over to Infinity and
> open a can of whoop ass on them.... oh thats right Bob
> already did that...with the ratings
>
> now K-Rot knows how it feels to lose it's morning show, just
> like WRRK did with Jim Quinn, its not easy to recover from
> that and it takes years to rebuild from it
>


yes i guess. no have all music on one station.

Lol that would be funny as hell. oh yea go bobfm

Yep i agree.<P ID="signature">______________
Bobfm rocks down the house give me an amen.

937krock and star1007 is flushed down period.</P>
 
Re: I can

You're leaping to the wrong conclusion. We're talking about a station with a crappy signal during a ratings period that has limited daylight hours. Most days, most people lose 1360 after 5 p.m. The station is also stale. It isn't like Doug Hoerth is doing things that will add a lot of new listeners. He's just holding the dwindling number of people who have followed him through all his stops. He's trying to keep the ones who can get an audible signal out of 1360 in the winter, anyway.

What's "lib talk" about Hoerth's show? How many stations do ANY business without a morning show or any consequence?

I would assume they're just hanging on until they make their big frequency change. Then, given half a chance to compete, they can see where they are.





> WPTT is dead. Toast. Lib talk ain't workin'.
 
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The signal has always been there. Hoerth in drive time with no morning show has not.

You could say what is "Lib Talk" about Laura Ingram in the morning- but the heavy hitters on that station are Cullen, the Air America host in mid-day, and Alan Colmes.

Plus, Hoerth is hardly thinking man's political talk. He's pop culture- Hollywood- and you could make the arguement that would cater to a political liberal.

He does cater to "Old School" and that is Democratic Pittsburgh.

So how's that?

Personally, when that station goes to 910 I would get rid of EVERYTHING! I truly think that station is the biggest disaster on Pittsburgh radio today.




> You're leaping to the wrong conclusion. We're talking about
> a station with a crappy signal during a ratings period that
> has limited daylight hours. Most days, most people lose 1360
> after 5 p.m. The station is also stale. It isn't like Doug
> Hoerth is doing things that will add a lot of new listeners.
> He's just holding the dwindling number of people who have
> followed him through all his stops. He's trying to keep the
> ones who can get an audible signal out of 1360 in the
> winter, anyway.
>
> What's "lib talk" about Hoerth's show? How many stations do
> ANY business without a morning show or any consequence?
>
> I would assume they're just hanging on until they make their
> big frequency change. Then, given half a chance to compete,
> they can see where they are.
>
>
>
>
>
> > WPTT is dead. Toast. Lib talk ain't workin'.
>
 
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> Hoerth is
> pop culture- Hollywood- and you could make the arguement
> that would cater to a political liberal.
>
> He does cater to "Old School" and that is Democratic
> Pittsburgh.
>
> So how's that?



Pretty silly and irrelevant, actually.
 
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