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unclehonkey said:Again I am fully aware of how syndication works. I posted what I considered a rerun of one networks show on another network and of course I get lynched for it on a tehnicality. :
Because it's not 'one network's show on another network'...it's a station that happens to be affiliated with one network, airing a rerun of something that used to be on a different network...and airing it outside of the normal 'network time'.
The internet is filled with people who make the same mistake.
If cable doesn't count then local syndication shouldn't either. Most popular syndicated reruns of network shows are probably on some affiliates of all of the big 4 networks and CW somewhere.
Wasn't it odd to see this last winter the older Peanuts special airing on ABC, and the new one airing on FOX on the same night in the same time period? I wonder if that had ever happened before, where one "brand" aired at the same time on competing networks? By the way, I wonder if the FOX/Warner Bros. new production used any old footage from the Schultz productions?anotherguy said:
Not from the old cartoons(more accurately produced by Mendelson and Melendez, with input from Schulz), but the newer special had a lot of homages to the early strips. The whole show felt like it could have been a Peanuts special from the late 50s(pre-dating the actual ones by several years), but with a modern twist. Stephan Patsis, the cartoonist on "Pearls Before Swine", did the layouts for the special. He got to know Schulz late in Schulz's life, and did a good job capturing the feel of the classic strips.KyDXIn said:
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As far as one "brand" sharing time on two networks, this below comes close----
Per Wesley Hyatt's The Encyclopedia of Daytime Television, CBS had "the Road Runner Show" scheduled at the same time as ABC's "The Bugs Bunny Show"---both Warner Bros. properties, of course.............Then, years later, when Road Runner was on ABC, it was on at the same time as Bugs on CBS! Hyatt: "Wile [E. Coyote] himself couldn't have botched things up any worse."
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Per Wesley Hyatt's The Encyclopedia of Daytime Television, CBS had "the Road Runner Show" scheduled at the same time as ABC's "The Bugs Bunny Show"---both Warner Bros. properties, of course.............Then, years later, when Road Runner was on ABC, it was on at the same time as Bugs on CBS! Hyatt: "Wile [E. Coyote] himself couldn't have botched things up any worse."
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Ultimajock said:
Actually, the ABC-TV Network ran "Father Knows Best" re-runs in what would be called primetime during the 1962-63 Season (Sept., 1962 - Dec. 1962 - Sundays at 7:00 P.M. and Dec., 1963 - April, 1963 - Fridays at 8:00 P.M.).
cd637299 said:As far as one "brand" sharing time on two networks, this below comes close----
Per Wesley Hyatt's The Encyclopedia of Daytime Television, CBS had "the Road Runner Show" scheduled at the same time as ABC's "The Bugs Bunny Show"---both Warner Bros. properties, of course.............Then, years later, when Road Runner was on ABC, it was on at the same time as Bugs on CBS! Hyatt: "Wile [E. Coyote] himself couldn't have botched things up any worse."
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The classic WB cartoons have pretty much been on all of the original big 3 networks at some point in time, along with The WB.
anotherguy said:AFAIK, NBC never had the rights to Bugs Bunny cartoons, but from roughly 1979-82, it did have a 'Daffy Duck' series(which also featured Speedy Gonzalez). I recall in 1982-83, CBS had a separate show for 'Sylvester, Tweety, Daffy & Speedy', and the next year, presumably, everything was back under the 'Bugs Bunny/Road Runner Show' umbrella title.cd637299 said:As far as one "brand" sharing time on two networks, this below comes close----
Per Wesley Hyatt's The Encyclopedia of Daytime Television, CBS had "the Road Runner Show" scheduled at the same time as ABC's "The Bugs Bunny Show"---both Warner Bros. properties, of course.............Then, years later, when Road Runner was on ABC, it was on at the same time as Bugs on CBS! Hyatt: "Wile [E. Coyote] himself couldn't have botched things up any worse."
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The classic WB cartoons have pretty much been on all of the original big 3 networks at some point in time, along with The WB.
Fox had them for awhile, too. They picked up the formerly syndicated Merrie Melodies Starring Bugs Bunny and Friends at the same time they picked up Tiny Toons.anotherguy said:cd637299 said:As far as one "brand" sharing time on two networks, this below comes close----
Per Wesley Hyatt's The Encyclopedia of Daytime Television, CBS had "the Road Runner Show" scheduled at the same time as ABC's "The Bugs Bunny Show"---both Warner Bros. properties, of course.............Then, years later, when Road Runner was on ABC, it was on at the same time as Bugs on CBS! Hyatt: "Wile [E. Coyote] himself couldn't have botched things up any worse."
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The classic WB cartoons have pretty much been on all of the original big 3 networks at some point in time, along with The WB.
onairb said:
I meant all classic WB cartoons in general, and I forgot about Fox. They may have been under different names, but they would have been the same brand. Also, I think there was a Porky Pig Show on NBC in either the 60's or 70's.
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anotherguy said:
Oh.... I suppose I did not make it clear, earlier.....in the cases of Road Runner Show & Bugs Bunny Show, I meant that they each aired in the exact same time slot, network vs. network! So, it was a case of WB cartoons vs. WB cartoons.
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anotherguy said:
Porky had his own show on ABC from 1964 to 1967.
Individual PBS stations have also picked up former commercial network shows; UNC-TV at one time carried the Tennessee Ernie Ford and Red Skelton (NBC) shows as lead-in to Welk; South Carolina ETV has carried "The Best Of The Ed Sullivan Show" in the past; I've heard of Jack Benny airing on Ch. 21 in the New York area, and "Best Of Groucho" and Burns and Allen on WOSU Columbus, OH.
Don't forget, too, that PBS carried the CBS episodes of "The Paper Chase" after the Eye Network canceled it, and "The Prisoner" has turned up on some PBS stations over the years (it, too, aired on CBS).
...I would hesitate to include most of these, as they were either simply syndicated reruns that were available to any station that bothered to pick them up, and/or not specifically distributed to Public TV stations by PBS. I'm not even sure that WQED/13 Pittsburgh specifically offered their Ed Sullivan Show edit package through PBS; as you'll notice, Shirley Jones' introductions and epilogues for the WQED version specified "Public Television" rather than "PBS," suggesting the series could have been offered through American Public Television instead. Same for the Red Skelton Show and Ford Show repeats. However, there have been several series that ran in the United States on commercial network TV and were later specifically distributed by PBS -- The Six Wives of Henry VIII (CBS 1972), Alistair Cooke's America (NBC 1972), and The Ernie Kovacs Show (using material from Ernie's various NBC, CBS and ABC tenures between 1952 and 1961), in addition to the previously-mentioned The Paper Chase (CBS 1978-79)...bpatrick said:
Point taken, especially about the Ed Sullivan shows; a commercial
station in Atlanta, WUPA, ran those shows for a time. But the point,
which I should have thought about, is that PBS stations do pick up
reruns of former commercial-network programs; in fact, the Welk reruns
sparked a debate among PBS station managers as to whether he should
even be on PBS, coming as he did from ABC and commercial syndication.
(One manager who refused to air Welk sarcastically asked when "Hee Haw"
was coming to PBS.)
One such show I recall being on PBS in the late '70s was called "When
Television Was Young" and consisted entirely of Peter Lind Hayes and
Mary Healy's shows from the '50s (I wonder if they included his show which
was part of ABC's first full daytime schedule in 1958).
station in Atlanta, WUPA, ran those shows for a time. But the point,
which I should have thought about, is that PBS stations do pick up
reruns of former commercial-network programs; in fact, the Welk reruns
sparked a debate among PBS station managers as to whether he should
even be on PBS, coming as he did from ABC and commercial syndication.
(One manager who refused to air Welk sarcastically asked when "Hee Haw"
was coming to PBS.)
One such show I recall being on PBS in the late '70s was called "When
Television Was Young" and consisted entirely of Peter Lind Hayes and
Mary Healy's shows from the '50s (I wonder if they included his show which
was part of ABC's first full daytime schedule in 1958).
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