RM strikes plea deal

[radio_insider]

FYI. I will self correct myself if I"m wrong on one thing. PPM may have rolled out in October, which would make the November PPM data valid. The 2008 Summer Book data is correct though. I just don't remember when PPM rolled out.

No, I said the last book, not a trend, meaning a 3 month period (this would have been the summer book which would be July, August, and September) and came out in October. And here is another little problem with the post you referenced. PPM's posted 11-03-08? PPM rolled out 11-03-08. Good post though, you're obviously on top of your game.

RMS was only on for 6 weeks of PPM ratings. To say that RMS doesn't play well under PPM is a bit much. Notice The Ticket fell too. Like everything else, when PPM rolled out, it had flaws. If you want to get technical, go look at their November distribution, especially in the number of PPMs distributed and duration people held them. Then look at how D/FW stations faired in the first month vs. other major markets. If you have a brain, you can come to a logical conclusion.

I did notice you didn't want to discuss the fact that advertisers signed new contracts with Russ doing spots for them and at that point he was facing a felony. Kind of flies in the face of your argument that nobody will touch him. And while you're doing your research, tell Nike they've made a huge mistake doing a huge ad campaign with an accused rapist. Oops.

So, let me get this straight. His advertisers stayed with him when he was charged with a felony (and even signed new deals except for one), but they won't touch him because of a "no contest" plea? Try again. And as far as ratings go, someone needs to go back and look at the last book he completed. #2 Men 25-54 (.1 behind Hardline) #1 persons 18-34, 25-54, Men 18-34 and Men 18+. Yeah, that's a real slide.

#1 persons 25-54????
http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=115293.0
The PPM's posted 11-3-08 show this:

PERSONS 25-54
1 - 1 KLNO
4t- 2 KHKS
3 - 3 KZPS
4t- 4 KSCS
2 - 5 KPLX
10t-6t KKDA-FM
4t-6t KLUV
16t-8 KESS
7 -9t KVIL
12-9t KDMX
8 - 11 KSOC
9 - 12 KLTY
14t-13 KJKK
13-14t KEGL
14t-14t WBAP

Then check out page 2 of that thread...

check out KLLI's M25-54 numbers. Morning drive, top 10, afternoon drive, top 10. Middays? Not even in the top 20....

Now i don't know what you're claiming as "the last book he completed" waqs, but since this thread
http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=115672.0
announcing his departure is dated 12/8/08, I don't thik it's unreasonable to look at a November PPM release as close to the end...

So here you are, a Russ apologist, claiming he was #1 men 25-54. And yet these I am from 7 months ago saying he was top 10. And somehow nobody corrected me?

They didn't correct me in multiple posts?

Re: The Rise and Fall of Russ Martin
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2008, 09:23:44 am »
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Last trend they were down to the 6-8 range. Don't remember where exactly, but I think it was Jagger 8th, B&S 21st and Russ 6th with M25-54.

Maybe David or Domingo can post the actual numbers, and we'll see who is really 'dead ass wrong'.

 

[ButtnPushr]

Michael Jackson took a plea deal. So that makes him "not guilty", too... right?

 

[scrtr84]

Michael Jackson took a plea deal. So that makes him "not guilty", too... right?

A no contest plea means the person giving the plea does not wish to contest the charges. In otherwords, such a plea does not mean the potential felon is innocent. In fact in the legal profession, a no contest plea weighs in at about the same level as a guilty plea. The only difference is the level of punishment that is implemented.

 

[scrtr84]

So, a plea to a misdemeanor with no conviction is worse than the original media onslaught of assault with a deadly weapon? I don't think so. Again, of all the people who have screwed up and rebuilt their image, do you really think Russ' plea is the worst?

You don't like Russ or his show, and that's ok. I just think this notion that he is doomed is retarded at best. He now has a chance to tell his side of the story. For the haters, it won't matter. For others, it will be enlightening.

Can he rebuild his image? Sure, if he is smart he can. Is his plea the worst? That is irrelevant.

 

[board monkey]

Michael Jackson took a plea deal. So that makes him "not guilty", too... right?

A no contest plea means the person giving the plea does not wish to contest the charges. In otherwords, such a plea does not mean the potential felon is innocent. In fact in the legal profession, a no contest plea weighs in at about the same level as a guilty plea. The only difference is the level of punishment that is implemented.

Relax gents. Russ took a plea to a misdemeanor and it is deferred. Which means once his probation is up , if he completes it sucessfully, it will disappear. He is not a felon. Doesnt matter what the original charges were/are.

 

[Jubb05]

Michael Jackson took a plea deal. So that makes him "not guilty", too... right?

A no contest plea means the person giving the plea does not wish to contest the charges. In otherwords, such a plea does not mean the potential felon is innocent. In fact in the legal profession, a no contest plea weighs in at about the same level as a guilty plea. The only difference is the level of punishment that is implemented.

Relax gents. Russ took a plea to a misdemeanor and it is deferred. Which means once his probation is up , if he completes it sucessfully, it will disappear. He is not a felon. Doesnt matter what the original charges were/are.

Actually what matters, imo, is not the level of charge he plead to - but the fact that he is now on probation for assaulting a woman.

Great guy. :

 

[radioaircheck]

Everyone needs to realize that Russ IS NOT COMING BACK on radio in DFW!! He is done!!. There is no company that can afford him number one, and number two, he has no audience left. He is done, that is reality!! The advertisers will not support the show or his content. They are affraid to. Russ will now become John Q Public and will have to go through life like the rest of us!!

 

[Brandon1980]

He still has an audience..... we're just patiently waiting for his return. He'll be back and the show will do well. Look at what else is out there, it's horrible. As much as most of you seem to hate the RMS, there's a huge market of people who love it.

In the meantime, I'll just continue listening to the old shows. So much for making a good first impression on this board.

 

[LibertyNT]

He still has an audience..... we're just patiently waiting for his return. He'll be back and the show will do well. Look at what else is out there, it's horrible. As much as most of you seem to hate the RMS, there's a huge market of people who love it.

In the meantime, I'll just continue listening to the old shows. So much for making a good first impression on this board.

Hey I listened to Russ once in a while.
Its no Biggie

 

[scrtr84]

Everyone needs to realize that Russ IS NOT COMING BACK on radio in DFW!! He is done!!. There is no company that can afford him number one, and number two, he has no audience left. He is done, that is reality!! The advertisers will not support the show or his content. They are affraid to. Russ will now become John Q Public and will have to go through life like the rest of us!!

THANK YOU! This is what I have been saying all along.

 

[Nik]

Everyone needs to realize that Russ IS NOT COMING BACK on radio in DFW!! He is done!!. There is no company that can afford him number one, and number two, he has no audience left. He is done, that is reality!! The advertisers will not support the show or his content. They are affraid to. Russ will now become John Q Public and will have to go through life like the rest of us!!

Boy, you are going to be disappointed.

 

[scrtr84]

Everyone needs to realize that Russ IS NOT COMING BACK on radio in DFW!! He is done!!. There is no company that can afford him number one, and number two, he has no audience left. He is done, that is reality!! The advertisers will not support the show or his content. They are affraid to. Russ will now become John Q Public and will have to go through life like the rest of us!!

Boy, you are going to be disappointed.

No, boy, you are going to be.

 

[radio_insider]

Everyone needs to realize that Russ IS NOT COMING BACK on radio in DFW!! He is done!!. There is no company that can afford him number one, and number two, he has no audience left. He is done, that is reality!! The advertisers will not support the show or his content. They are affraid to. Russ will now become John Q Public and will have to go through life like the rest of us!!

THANK YOU! This is what I have been saying all along.

How many of you dips who say he will never come back will be willing to never post on this board when he does come back? Or, donate to his foundation with the note that you were wrong?

 

[board monkey]

Michael Jackson took a plea deal. So that makes him "not guilty", too... right?

A no contest plea means the person giving the plea does not wish to contest the charges. In otherwords, such a plea does not mean the potential felon is innocent. In fact in the legal profession, a no contest plea weighs in at about the same level as a guilty plea. The only difference is the level of punishment that is implemented.

Relax gents. Russ took a plea to a misdemeanor and it is deferred. Which means once his probation is up , if he completes it sucessfully, it will disappear. He is not a felon. Doesnt matter what the original charges were/are.

Actually what matters, imo, is not the level of charge he plead to - but the fact that he is now on probation for assaulting a woman.

Great guy. :

You ever pull up Larry King on the smoking gun? Entertainers are entertainers. They dont have to be saints.

 

[scrtr84]

Everyone needs to realize that Russ IS NOT COMING BACK on radio in DFW!! He is done!!. There is no company that can afford him number one, and number two, he has no audience left. He is done, that is reality!! The advertisers will not support the show or his content. They are affraid to. Russ will now become John Q Public and will have to go through life like the rest of us!!

THANK YOU! This is what I have been saying all along.

How many of you dips who say he will never come back will be willing to never post on this board when he does come back? Or, donate to his foundation with the note that you were wrong?

I think you'd be better off asking this to the "dips" who say RM will be back on DFW radio airwaves. There are already more than enough "legit" resons why he won't, and very little reasoning for why he will. Best thing all the pro RM posters have come up with is, "RM has an audience".

 

[scrtr84]

You ever pull up Larry King on the smoking gun? Entertainers are entertainers. They dont have to be saints.

Saints? Nahhh no one has to be a saint. The problem is, when one constantly jokes about beating up people, then gets thyself charged for assault of an individual or group of people and then pleads either guilty or no contest. When that happens, it's a guaranteed career ending move.

 

[ChainSmirker]

Saints? Nahhh no one has to be a saint. The problem is, when one constantly jokes about beating up people, then gets thyself charged for assault of an individual or group of people and then pleads either guilty or no contest. When that happens, it's a guaranteed career ending move.

The Catholic church and the Republican party both preach tirelessly about moral virtue, but no matter how many of them get caught with their pants down (literally), they still manage to survive and raise truckloads of money. I don't think there's going to be much outrage about Russ Martin, disappointing to you though that undoubtedly is.

 

[Brandon1980]

He's supposed to be interviewed on WFAA on the 10 pm news this evening if anyone cares. Doubt there will be anything worth a damn said, but who knows.

 

[Nik]

I am standing by to become one of his first advertisers when he returns, and I have a friend, who is also a business owner, convinced as well. Boss man is not going to have any trouble rounding up sponsors.

 

[scrtr84]

I am standing by to become one of his first advertisers when he returns, and I have a friend, who is also a business owner, convinced as well. Boss man is not going to have any trouble rounding up sponsors.

OK so what business are you and your friend in. Gun shop owners? Come on, tell us what the businesses are.