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purpledevil
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Yeah, I tried for it too, but to no avail. All "Baila" yesterday, nary a peep from Cypress Radio.
Shame, really. I'm near Spring, and*it doesn't stand a chance even this short of a distance to the east.
I wish Jim and The Colonel could pool together the resources to make a play for a translator to help things out. Best of luck to them, though. It helps restore my faith in the market, having guys like them actually putting forth the effort to deliver a worthwhile program to the area.
Just wish there was a whole lot more area covered.
Shame, really. I'm near Spring, and*it doesn't stand a chance even this short of a distance to the east.
I wish Jim and The Colonel could pool together the resources to make a play for a translator to help things out. Best of luck to them, though. It helps restore my faith in the market, having guys like them actually putting forth the effort to deliver a worthwhile program to the area.
Just wish there was a whole lot more area covered.
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rbrucecarter5
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It just makes me mad that some station way down the coast is allowed to splatter their foreign stuff all over West Houston and a local station in Cypress broadcasting a unique format unavailable elsewhere in the market has coverage problems. It is not like 101.7 from whereever actually has any listeners in Houston.
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purpledevil
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Yeah, Baila. Get lost!
I mean, yeah, you were first.
and yeah, you've been on the air for some 30 plus years.
and yeah, you were originally another run of the mill, small town country station, and gave that format up for a music genre unavailable anywhere in the area.
and yeah, when Liberman bought you some 10 years ago they went to the trouble of upgrading you to 35 kilowatts legally, helping you ditch the fast living of Bay City, Texas for the greener pastures of SW Houston, and did so with the full support and blessing of the FCC.
and yeah, there's no other Spanish dance music available in the market, which makes you "unique" all on your own.
But....
Don't you know? An LPFM in Cypress has lit up!
and you interfere with said LPFM, even though you've resided on the same channel since Jim Pruett and Colonel St. James were still going to work at KLOL...on Lovett Blvd. and they knew you were there when they applied for KCYB...
and you speak foreign!
and it's not like you actually serve anyone in the area! I mean, there aren't even any Spanish dominant residents in SW Houston...or Rosenberg...or Richmond...or Simonton...or Beasley...or El Campo...or Kendleton...or *gasp* the COL of Bay City...
and it just makes me mad, too...
and I am banging my head on this wall again...
I wonder...
If KNTE were still KXGJ, still speaking "domestic", still running country as the umpteenth station in the area to do so, and still locally owned and operated in Bay City, would you maintain your stance regarding the allocation?
I certainly hope this helps to clear up the misconception that I don't like you because your an avid supporter of the oldies/classic hits format. This nonsense is why you and I can never see eye to eye. It has nothing to do with musical preferences and everything to do with your intolerance of anything or anyone broadcasting non-English language programming.
I mean, yeah, you were first.
and yeah, you've been on the air for some 30 plus years.
and yeah, you were originally another run of the mill, small town country station, and gave that format up for a music genre unavailable anywhere in the area.
and yeah, when Liberman bought you some 10 years ago they went to the trouble of upgrading you to 35 kilowatts legally, helping you ditch the fast living of Bay City, Texas for the greener pastures of SW Houston, and did so with the full support and blessing of the FCC.
and yeah, there's no other Spanish dance music available in the market, which makes you "unique" all on your own.
But....
Don't you know? An LPFM in Cypress has lit up!
and you interfere with said LPFM, even though you've resided on the same channel since Jim Pruett and Colonel St. James were still going to work at KLOL...on Lovett Blvd. and they knew you were there when they applied for KCYB...
and you speak foreign!
and it's not like you actually serve anyone in the area! I mean, there aren't even any Spanish dominant residents in SW Houston...or Rosenberg...or Richmond...or Simonton...or Beasley...or El Campo...or Kendleton...or *gasp* the COL of Bay City...
and it just makes me mad, too...
and I am banging my head on this wall again...
I wonder...
If KNTE were still KXGJ, still speaking "domestic", still running country as the umpteenth station in the area to do so, and still locally owned and operated in Bay City, would you maintain your stance regarding the allocation?
I certainly hope this helps to clear up the misconception that I don't like you because your an avid supporter of the oldies/classic hits format. This nonsense is why you and I can never see eye to eye. It has nothing to do with musical preferences and everything to do with your intolerance of anything or anyone broadcasting non-English language programming.
Unfortunately, the idea of LPFM (LOW Power FM) is lost on a lot of people. In metro areas, alas, all they do is add to the band noise.....AND if you think KCYB-LP is the only 101.7 that will be on in Houston, dont bet on it..there are some MX apps on 101.7 still awaiting FCC action in other sections of Houston. Translators are only issued license during filing windows. The last one was before the LPFM window and of course, every church and his brother (pun made but not intended) filed for freqs everywhere..just clogging up the FM band even more (the 97.1 translator in Beaumont is another prime example)...
The band can only hold so many signals...you cannot put a square peg in a round hole (even using a hammer). I like the concept behind LPFMs but was not a fan of them being allowed on the band. Rolling back the # of stations a commercial owner can have would make more sense..but we know that is not going to happen either.
As to KNTE, Liberman bought both it and 96.9 at the same time..I shook my head when they did...they had no audience and had taken two country stations that were making money and drove them into the ground...I actually am surprised that Liberman sold 96.9 (especially to KSBJ!!! Liberman selling to a Christian group? I was floored!...if you worked for Liberman, you would REALLY understand the irony of that.......when we watched the "missing" episode of Family Guy "When you wish upon a Weinstein" at the station during lunch one day after it was found on DVD, we locked the sales room door and had the TV facing away from the windows....Leonard walked past a few times and there was 10 of us eating and laughing our asses off...if he had walked in and found out what it was, I KNOW all of us would have been out the door....Oh yeah, one of the girls watching it was Jewish and she was laughing her butt off....and was going "OMG I hope Leonard cant unlock the door!")
Liberman spent a LOT of cash on those two stations and got NO ROI...they LOST money on them (though they lied in the coverage maps to advertisers to justify the ad rates in the SW side of Houston...Even as full Cs, the stations would never cover the SW side of Houston good enough to really matter. The upgrade to C1/C0 for both statons I just as another waste of money....but then what did I know...I was just a dumb gringo engineer who saved former employers up to $1 million + in projects over the years....IF I had the Zion bank of S CA giving me bank loans (someone else's money) to buy radio stations, I would NOT waste it on stations so far out of the market, they cannot be heard...smh (103.3 was bad enough and the 2000ft upgrade never built).
BTW Jim and Col did NOT file for KCYB..originally KCYB-LP was filed on 101.5 but a church also filed...rather than face a MX app which would take take to resolve and also cost both applicants their license after so many years, Cypress Radio filed for 101.7 instead which is how they got it....101.5 would have been cleaner but again, there will be other 101.5s in the Houston area...and now there is a translator moving to the Woodlands thanks to (who else) a church..
The band can only hold so many signals...you cannot put a square peg in a round hole (even using a hammer). I like the concept behind LPFMs but was not a fan of them being allowed on the band. Rolling back the # of stations a commercial owner can have would make more sense..but we know that is not going to happen either.
As to KNTE, Liberman bought both it and 96.9 at the same time..I shook my head when they did...they had no audience and had taken two country stations that were making money and drove them into the ground...I actually am surprised that Liberman sold 96.9 (especially to KSBJ!!! Liberman selling to a Christian group? I was floored!...if you worked for Liberman, you would REALLY understand the irony of that.......when we watched the "missing" episode of Family Guy "When you wish upon a Weinstein" at the station during lunch one day after it was found on DVD, we locked the sales room door and had the TV facing away from the windows....Leonard walked past a few times and there was 10 of us eating and laughing our asses off...if he had walked in and found out what it was, I KNOW all of us would have been out the door....Oh yeah, one of the girls watching it was Jewish and she was laughing her butt off....and was going "OMG I hope Leonard cant unlock the door!")
Liberman spent a LOT of cash on those two stations and got NO ROI...they LOST money on them (though they lied in the coverage maps to advertisers to justify the ad rates in the SW side of Houston...Even as full Cs, the stations would never cover the SW side of Houston good enough to really matter. The upgrade to C1/C0 for both statons I just as another waste of money....but then what did I know...I was just a dumb gringo engineer who saved former employers up to $1 million + in projects over the years....IF I had the Zion bank of S CA giving me bank loans (someone else's money) to buy radio stations, I would NOT waste it on stations so far out of the market, they cannot be heard...smh (103.3 was bad enough and the 2000ft upgrade never built).
BTW Jim and Col did NOT file for KCYB..originally KCYB-LP was filed on 101.5 but a church also filed...rather than face a MX app which would take take to resolve and also cost both applicants their license after so many years, Cypress Radio filed for 101.7 instead which is how they got it....101.5 would have been cleaner but again, there will be other 101.5s in the Houston area...and now there is a translator moving to the Woodlands thanks to (who else) a church..
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purpledevil
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Probably would've been a better topic, lol.
Thanks for the heads up on KCYB, CW. I'm happy to see the guys get it on air and serve Cypress in its own unique way. With the leadership it has in place, I suspect that KCYB will be a successful operation and will be a gem in the community it serves.
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rbrucecarter5
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> and yeah, when Liberman bought you some 10 years ago they went to the trouble of upgrading you to 35 kilowatts legally, helping you ditch the fast living of Bay City, Texas for the greener pastures of SW Houston
By that logic, then Bob-FM from Austin is trying for the greener pastures of NW Houston, because they are a heck of a lot stronger there than 101.7 ever will be in SW Houston.
> and yeah, there's no other Spanish dance music available in the market, which makes you "unique" all on your own.
All I hear is overmodulated foreign stuff. It isn't anywhere close to the Spanish format stations I can get on 580, 620, 780 which are actually sort of pleasant to listen to.
> and you speak foreign!
I don't speak foreign.
> there aren't even any Spanish dominant residents in SW Houston...or Rosenberg...or Richmond...or Simonton...or Beasley...or El Campo...or Kendleton...or *gasp* the COL of Bay City...
That KEYH is a monster all over SW Houston. There is also a 980 in Rosenberg that is really strong. I don't see the shortage, everywhere I tune in SW Houston there seems to be Spanish on the dial AM and FM. I don't see how all those Spanish language stations line up enough advertisers to stay on the air. They split up the audience so much I doubt any of them have decent ratings.
> If KNTE were still KXGJ, still speaking "domestic", still running country as the umpteenth station in the area to do so, and still locally owned and operated in Bay City, would you maintain your stance regarding the allocation?
Country and Spanish language is over saturated in the area - they seem to be the default formats to try before trying anything else. As a result they dominate the band worse than yet more KSBJ translators.
> I certainly hope this helps to clear up the misconception that I don't like you because your an avid supporter of the oldies/classic hits format. This nonsense is why you and I can never see eye to eye.
I get it - you don't like oldies / classic rock.
> It has nothing to do with musical preferences and everything to do with your intolerance of anything or anyone broadcasting non-English language programming.
Then why do I go to the trouble of listening to REAL Mexican stations on 580, 620, and 780? True, I don't speak foreign. But if the music is decent, and given the lack of music stations here fit to listen to - I am willing to try something new even if it is foreign. But that overmodulated stuff on 101.7? I don't think so. It is nothing like the music on the stations from Mexico.
By that logic, then Bob-FM from Austin is trying for the greener pastures of NW Houston, because they are a heck of a lot stronger there than 101.7 ever will be in SW Houston.
> and yeah, there's no other Spanish dance music available in the market, which makes you "unique" all on your own.
All I hear is overmodulated foreign stuff. It isn't anywhere close to the Spanish format stations I can get on 580, 620, 780 which are actually sort of pleasant to listen to.
> and you speak foreign!
I don't speak foreign.
> there aren't even any Spanish dominant residents in SW Houston...or Rosenberg...or Richmond...or Simonton...or Beasley...or El Campo...or Kendleton...or *gasp* the COL of Bay City...
That KEYH is a monster all over SW Houston. There is also a 980 in Rosenberg that is really strong. I don't see the shortage, everywhere I tune in SW Houston there seems to be Spanish on the dial AM and FM. I don't see how all those Spanish language stations line up enough advertisers to stay on the air. They split up the audience so much I doubt any of them have decent ratings.
> If KNTE were still KXGJ, still speaking "domestic", still running country as the umpteenth station in the area to do so, and still locally owned and operated in Bay City, would you maintain your stance regarding the allocation?
Country and Spanish language is over saturated in the area - they seem to be the default formats to try before trying anything else. As a result they dominate the band worse than yet more KSBJ translators.
> I certainly hope this helps to clear up the misconception that I don't like you because your an avid supporter of the oldies/classic hits format. This nonsense is why you and I can never see eye to eye.
I get it - you don't like oldies / classic rock.
> It has nothing to do with musical preferences and everything to do with your intolerance of anything or anyone broadcasting non-English language programming.
Then why do I go to the trouble of listening to REAL Mexican stations on 580, 620, and 780? True, I don't speak foreign. But if the music is decent, and given the lack of music stations here fit to listen to - I am willing to try something new even if it is foreign. But that overmodulated stuff on 101.7? I don't think so. It is nothing like the music on the stations from Mexico.
Of course, Matagorda, Brazoria and Fort Bend counties are all between 26% and 35% Hispanic. Whether the format is good or not is an issue to take up with the owner.
The Cypress LP seems to be 9 watts at 300 feet HAAT and has less than 10,000 persons in its 60 dbu contour. As the Spanish saying goes, "you cant ask for pears from an Elm tree".
There is no reasonable expectation to hear an LPFM at any significant distance. They are dropped in in small holes in the protected contours of other licensed stations.
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purpledevil
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No se puede pedir peras al olmo. Gracias por eso, David.
Very much one of the points I had made, with a lot less sarcasm dripping from it.
If anyone else is still amused enough to still be following this thread, please take a moment to go back and reread Bruce's last offering. I'll let the tale speak for itself and move on. This thread has been damaged enough.
My apologies to Jim Pruett.
Very much one of the points I had made, with a lot less sarcasm dripping from it.
If anyone else is still amused enough to still be following this thread, please take a moment to go back and reread Bruce's last offering. I'll let the tale speak for itself and move on. This thread has been damaged enough.
My apologies to Jim Pruett.
The KCYB signal actually gets out better than I thought it would, although it gets major grief from KNTE. My driveway is a sweet spot for reception about 13 miles away. Driving around it appears you have to get within seven miles of the transmitter to have a solid signal.
I wish KCYB well, but were I a gambling man, I would wager that the station will go silent in the not too distant future, and then be relaunched with a religious format under different ownership. I just don't see them being able to stay financially afloat, unless the owners see it as more of a hobby than a sustainable enterprise.
Col St James said on his FB page that Jim was closing his gun shop...not sure if that was a joke or real...if real, maybe Jim may be sinking some money into the station....but LPFMs usually lose after a while in metro areas..the tower rent is not cheap and there is other costs as well...a lot of their stuff was donated but over time, it will be a rough ride...the LP in Livingston on 96.1, I have heard playing questionable commercials (not in the manner of normal underwriting but a 30 or 60 sec infomercial)
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rbrucecarter5
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Remember: there is no need to get dirty or insulting on a personal level no matter how much you may dislike each other, and no matter how "wrong" the other person is.
Remember: everyone is coming to the table with different experiences that are their point of reference for why they believe what they do. That does not make them less of a human than anyone else for not believing or agreeing with you.
Remember: rarely is someone's opinion or point of view changed by reading another's opinion on a message board. So don't expect to. Some people like snow, others like sun. Arguing that one is better than the other will not change anyone's opinion. Expect that you can share your own opinion and debate with other's about their's in a civil manner. Sometimes you will be right, sometimes you won't. The new paradigm on the Internet is not to win, but to share.
Remember: that statistics and studies are also often wrong, or at least varied in accuracy. Statistics can sometimes be construed to support either side of an argument. Sometimes studies don't account for "something" that changes the outcome. For example: Asbestos used to be deemed safe until it was discovered not safe (I think they forgot to ask, "safe for what?"). And scientists thought the world was flat, until is was discovered to be round. The same can be thought for anything and everything we know and believe to be true today, right here, right now.
Remember: equality is about giving each other the same respect. If you truly believe in equality, you will adhere to this. Being disrespectful shows you believe the other is inferior and less equal than you.
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rbrucecarter5
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Probably the best scenario for long distance reception, since it puts the maximum distance from Bay City as well.
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purpledevil
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Hey, wait a minute...
You picked it up in Humble, and I've got it locked in here in north Houston, a couple of miles north of the Belt.
Something ain't quite right here. Odd that a 9 watter could make it here, I'd think virtually impossible to reach clear to Humble.
I was going to ask if he confirmed it was KCYB-LP and not KAYD....(or possibly KSAM)
Humble would be about 30 miles from the KCYB transmitter. The poster probably heard something else.
Reception at that distance might be possible with a rooftop yagi antenna pointed right at KCYB, but such a setup is extremely rare these days.
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purpledevil
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This is my first time to hear it static free and clear today, Frog. I would normally agree that djrage was mistaken in that he thought he heard KCYB, but he's posts reliably on various boards we are both participants of. He was the first guy that noticed KXXF had popped up and was testing a few months back, plus both K-Sam and KD are country to the heart, and what I heard today on KCYB kind of reminded me of the old, and I mean old KLOL. Before it got derailed into whatever you'd call what it ended up a few years before it flipped. That was quite a treat for the 20 minutes I sat out there listening to it, but it'd be pretty hard to mistake either of those two for KCYB.
There was a pretty good thunderstorm building up here around the time I was listening, which is why I came inside. Now that I think about it, that could've been an influence as to why he picked it up that far away from the tower. I'll give it to him, good catch John.
There was a pretty good thunderstorm building up here around the time I was listening, which is why I came inside. Now that I think about it, that could've been an influence as to why he picked it up that far away from the tower. I'll give it to him, good catch John.
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