Russ Martins options

[elokiddy]

To me, it sounds like the majority of the posters on this board are bitter (former) radio personalities that just wish they had the success Russ had. If this is the mentality of most radio hosts then I don't blame Russ in the slightest for the way he acted/treated some people. It's funny, everything he did you haters have something negative to say about it. If he is so hated, why did his listeners foundation have the money to pay out for fallen hero's? If he's such a terrible person why did he last as long as he did? I have no ties at all to the show other than being a loyal fan from the early KEGL days...and as such I find the garbage spewed about any of the hosts...current or former...disgusting.

If everybody is so much better than Russ was, why are you wasting your time posting garbage on this site instead of prepping for your own show?

I'll take this one, since I've never worked in radio, and have no inkling to attempt it.
I can't speak for anyone here who may be jealous, I can only speak as a listener.
Since I'm more of a Ticket listener when I'm not listening to other outlets, I've gotten annoyed at times at what I perceive to be the 'same ol same ol' attitude the Hardline had a few years ago. (Turns out it may have been Greggo's coke thing, but that's a whole nother can of worms)
SOoo, at different times I'd try to listen to Russ. Seriously. WIthout any agenda, or preconceived notion of his show.
I did NOT get it. In fact, when a show is so insidery, and there are so many things you have to know beforehand before you can attempt to enjoy the show, it winds up being too much work.
Too many times (I'd say 5 or 6 times over about a 3 month span of time) I'd tune in to hear silence; someone off mic laughing; the same subject being discussed (at this point it was Russ opening a bar somewhere)
It occurred to me that, beyond the usual insulting my intellingence gets from radio, this show was going beyond the pale.
Yeh, you can say what you will about the Ticket in general, or the Hardline in specifics.
But, damn, Russ's show sucked for me. The arrogance and ego was WAAAAY over the top.
So, to wrap this tirade up, goody for Russ that he got his money. I wish no ill on him or anyone who worked for him.
I just did NOT get the show at all, and was annoyed more than anything by it.

 

[tah]

To me, it sounds like the majority of the posters on this board are bitter (former) radio personalities that just wish they had the success Russ had. If this is the mentality of most radio hosts then I don't blame Russ in the slightest for the way he acted/treated some people. It's funny, everything he did you haters have something negative to say about it. If he is so hated, why did his listeners foundation have the money to pay out for fallen hero's? If he's such a terrible person why did he last as long as he did? I have no ties at all to the show other than being a loyal fan from the early KEGL days...and as such I find the garbage spewed about any of the hosts...current or former...disgusting.

If everybody is so much better than Russ was, why are you wasting your time posting garbage on this site instead of prepping for your own show?

I'll take this one, since I've never worked in radio, and have no inkling to attempt it.
I can't speak for anyone here who may be jealous, I can only speak as a listener.
Since I'm more of a Ticket listener when I'm not listening to other outlets, I've gotten annoyed at times at what I perceive to be the 'same ol same ol' attitude the Hardline had a few years ago. (Turns out it may have been Greggo's coke thing, but that's a whole nother can of worms)
SOoo, at different times I'd try to listen to Russ. Seriously. WIthout any agenda, or preconceived notion of his show.
I did NOT get it. In fact, when a show is so insidery, and there are so many things you have to know beforehand before you can attempt to enjoy the show, it winds up being too much work.
Too many times (I'd say 5 or 6 times over about a 3 month span of time) I'd tune in to hear silence; someone off mic laughing; the same subject being discussed (at this point it was Russ opening a bar somewhere)
It occurred to me that, beyond the usual insulting my intellingence gets from radio, this show was going beyond the pale.
Yeh, you can say what you will about the Ticket in general, or the Hardline in specifics.
But, damn, Russ's show sucked for me. The arrogance and ego was WAAAAY over the top.
So, to wrap this tirade up, goody for Russ that he got his money. I wish no ill on him or anyone who worked for him.
I just did NOT get the show at all, and was annoyed more than anything by it.

I don't work in radio, don't plan on working in radio and I've learned to love my IPOD more and more each day.

With that said, I agree with elokiddy. I tried for some time to "get" RMS. Heck, I even grew up in the 'Grove during the same period the Russ did so some of the insider stuff was not lost on me. The thing that totally blew it up for me was the arrest. Yeah, I understand the concept of "theater of the mind", the problem occurs when the theater become reality.

 

[dirtyd]

To me, it sounds like the majority of the posters on this board are bitter (former) radio personalities that just wish they had the success Russ had. If this is the mentality of most radio hosts then I don't blame Russ in the slightest for the way he acted/treated some people. It's funny, everything he did you haters have something negative to say about it. If he is so hated, why did his listeners foundation have the money to pay out for fallen hero's? If he's such a terrible person why did he last as long as he did? I have no ties at all to the show other than being a loyal fan from the early KEGL days...and as such I find the garbage spewed about any of the hosts...current or former...disgusting.

If everybody is so much better than Russ was, why are you wasting your time posting garbage on this site instead of prepping for your own show?

I'll take this one, since I've never worked in radio, and have no inkling to attempt it.
I can't speak for anyone here who may be jealous, I can only speak as a listener.
Since I'm more of a Ticket listener when I'm not listening to other outlets, I've gotten annoyed at times at what I perceive to be the 'same ol same ol' attitude the Hardline had a few years ago. (Turns out it may have been Greggo's coke thing, but that's a whole nother can of worms)
SOoo, at different times I'd try to listen to Russ. Seriously. WIthout any agenda, or preconceived notion of his show.
I did NOT get it. In fact, when a show is so insidery, and there are so many things you have to know beforehand before you can attempt to enjoy the show, it winds up being too much work.
Too many times (I'd say 5 or 6 times over about a 3 month span of time) I'd tune in to hear silence; someone off mic laughing; the same subject being discussed (at this point it was Russ opening a bar somewhere)
It occurred to me that, beyond the usual insulting my intellingence gets from radio, this show was going beyond the pale.
Yeh, you can say what you will about the Ticket in general, or the Hardline in specifics.
But, damn, Russ's show sucked for me. The arrogance and ego was WAAAAY over the top.
So, to wrap this tirade up, goody for Russ that he got his money. I wish no ill on him or anyone who worked for him.
I just did NOT get the show at all, and was annoyed more than anything by it.

( i too dont work in radio )

But I get 'russ's' show and i get the humor. However there are plenty of shows that I dont understand. (lex and terry) however i do not get on a forum and post stupid crap about them. Nor do i post thoughts about how stupid the people are who listen or how stupid the show is. Hell i hate most of the TV shows on TV but i sure as hell do not find myself looking up host's addresses and posting them in hate.

is EVERYONE eating hater-tots?

im sure you would love to get on a forum and see people bashing you when most of you lost your own jobs. Give the man a break. he has his angle that he punches, and it hits with some and it doesnt with others. But hell, it got him some money.

 

[scrtr84]

To me, it sounds like the majority of the posters on this board are bitter (former) radio personalities that just wish they had the success Russ had. If this is the mentality of most radio hosts then I don't blame Russ in the slightest for the way he acted/treated some people. It's funny, everything he did you haters have something negative to say about it. If he is so hated, why did his listeners foundation have the money to pay out for fallen hero's? If he's such a terrible person why did he last as long as he did? I have no ties at all to the show other than being a loyal fan from the early KEGL days...and as such I find the garbage spewed about any of the hosts...current or former...disgusting.

If everybody is so much better than Russ was, why are you wasting your time posting garbage on this site instead of prepping for your own show?

First off; This is a discussion board where opinions are allowed. Secondly, when anyone gets a gig, be it radio, TV, Movies, etc... This automatically subjects the person to critics and fans alike.

Having said that, l think some of you are forgetting that RM got himself into legal trouble. That is nothing to sneeze at. It still amazes me some of his listeners thought that was a bit. It also amazes me they're saying his termination was also a bit.

The fact is, Russ' fame got to his head. It happens, and he should have sought counseling for that if he couldn't handle it. Instead he gets himself busted for allegedly beating up his gf. It's very unprofessional for a public figure to wind up in such a situation, because it shows the person doesn't have complete control of things like emotions and behaivor.

Hopefully Russ will learn from this experience, and wise up. As it stands now, he's too much of a gamble for employment in an entertainment medium such as radio.

 

[radioaircheck]

He still is not coming back. I don't have innside information, it's just common sense. Tell me a company that is going to put up with his crap and pay big money to do it!!

 

[Slambang]

I compare this to the Scott Sams situation. SS burned his bridge at WFAA after the "alledged" mortica greek b**ch incident. Then, he moved into a smaller rimshot market(sherman/denison), where he did his time before he was picked up at CBS11. Russ will probably have to do this before he is given any shot back into this market, as it;ll show he's willing to take and do with less than he has now, thats if he gets off from the assult charges...

 

[scottythecynic]

He still is not coming back. I don't have innside information, it's just common sense. Tell me a company that is going to put up with his crap and pay big money to do it!!

I agree. Who's going to pay the bucks?

Even after Russ played the arrogant ass he is on a movie set I was on I tried to listen to him.

The incessant put downs of others ties right in with what he did to Amy.

He's a has been in the DFW market, that is unless he'll agree to work for peanuts after 2011.

Good riddance.

 

[uwf234]

Hopefully Russ will learn from this experience, and wise up. As it stands now, he's too much of a gamble for employment in an entertainment medium such as radio.

REALLY? Wise up? Okay, this isn't what I get. This man is being paid $2 million to sit on his butt and do nothing for the next few years. Who wouldn't dream of that? Wise up? I think the man is brilliant! He doesn't have to worry about a thing. He gets to do nothing but sit around and not do whatever he wants for two years.

He just bought a new house, right? Which means his multi-million dollar estate in Southlake is on the market...and will eventually sell. There's more cashflow.

So, I don't get it. Here we all are, working our rears off, trying to make it (because face it, if any of us on here were so stellar in radio we wouldn't be posting on here) and making dirt to work in this business we love...and he's getting paid millions to do nothing. Where did he go wrong again?

 

[evening times]

Well, he doesn't have a radio show, I will start there. Shaun Bradley has tons of money.

 

[Accuracy]

Hopefully Russ will learn from this experience, and wise up. As it stands now, he's too much of a gamble for employment in an entertainment medium such as radio.

REALLY? Wise up? Okay, this isn't what I get. This man is being paid $2 million to sit on his butt and do nothing for the next few years. Who wouldn't dream of that? Wise up? I think the man is brilliant! He doesn't have to worry about a thing. He gets to do nothing but sit around and not do whatever he wants for two years.

He just bought a new house, right? Which means his multi-million dollar estate in Southlake is on the market...and will eventually sell. There's more cashflow.

So, I don't get it. Here we all are, working our rears off, trying to make it (because face it, if any of us on here were so stellar in radio we wouldn't be posting on here) and making dirt to work in this business we love...and he's getting paid millions to do nothing. Where did he go wrong again?

I posted this elsewhere but I think it needs to be repeated. There is no guarantee RM is getting paid the balance of his contract. If he pleas to a lesser charge or is found guilty of criminal charges, CBS may be able to void his contract on violating the morals clause in his contract. Yes, CBS makes those standard for on-air talent. How will you know if they void his contract? He will start talking openly about his dismissal or will turn up on another station fairly soon (if anyone will hire him).

 

[uwf234]

Ask around to anyone reputible. Russ was bought out by CBS New York for 2mil so long as he stays off the air for 2 years...no other stipulations. Since CBS has come out and said that Russ was not fired because of the charges, that makes a morals clause out the window.

Well, he doesn't have a radio show, I will start there. Shaun Bradley has tons of money.

Really? Bradley also has a nice big healthy family. It all depends on how you meausre success, because that sounds successful to me. The man made millions on little tallent and height. No matter how you look at it, Russ had a talent and will be getting paid for that tallent...well paid. His tallent might have been striking while the iron was hot...regardless, the man has been successful in one form or another. Belive it or not, there are other things that are more important than radio and having a radio show.

It goes back to the old saying, I'd rather be lucky than good. Once again, who's the idiot? The man sitting at home playing bad songs on his guitar for 1mil a year or the people working for a dying (if not already dead) business at $12/hour?

 

[Accuracy]

"Ask around to anyone reputible. Russ was bought out by CBS New York for 2mil so long as he stays off the air for 2 years...no other stipulations. Since CBS has come out and said that Russ was not fired because of the charges, that makes a morals clause out the window."


Not so. CBS has at no time said Russ Martin was FIRED, they said he was no longer on the air. He is still on their payroll. CBS did not say he was fired due to his legal situation because that matter has not been settled in court yet. Otherwise, Russ could sue them if he was found not guilty. So, CBS is waiting to see what happens with his criminal charges. If he pleads guilty or is found guilty CBS may have good cause to void the remainder of his his contract. A few weeks ago it was written that Russ turned down a plea deal. He may have done that because he didn't want to admit guilt for fear it would nullify his contract. Again, if you see Russ working somewhere soon or publicly talking about his contract that means CBS voided it. If he is quiet for a long, long time you can bet CBS is still paying him.

 

[uwf234]

then run it by people at CBS that you know...and ask them. Then, you might be understand a little better.

 

[RadioBrat78]

Yeah, let me run up to the people I know @ CBS and ask them "So, why no more Russ?"
I'll get right back to you with their response!!

The advise from above about listening for Russ somewhere to determine the outcome of the
contract debaucle is the right way to do it. If you hear him sometime soon, he was dropped, if not, good bet he's still being paid.

 

[jeffdfw]

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[ISaidSo]

From what insiders are saying now.... Russ was let go because the station was having trouble selling his show ever since he got arrested, and that the change to sports was in reaction to the fact that Guy Talk was not doing well anywhere with the new PPM and that they wanted to change before it became a trend. just what I heard anyway....

 

[scrtr84]

From what insiders are saying now.... Russ was let go because the station was having trouble selling his show ever since he got arrested

BINGO!!! It was just a matter of time. This was suggested in a previous thread about RM, with the suggestion of boycotting the advertisers. I seem to recall someone suggesting that boycotts don't work. Regardless of whether they did occur or not, it's obvious the advertisers were taking that into consideration.

 

[ChainSmirker]

^^

So the advertisers are the ones who flipped the station's format?

 

[ISaidSo]

Well I guess, Yes they did... Advertisers buy numbers, guy talk was not doing well with PPM, so they switched.... As far as Russ goes you put upi with it if it sells, you dump it if it doesn't period....

 

[little1]

^^
So the advertisers are the ones who flipped the station's format?

No, I'd say it's more like 'the suits' taking the advertisers intentions into account when deciding whether to flip the format.

Because I heard the same thing. That they were having trouble selling the station lately, Russ's show in particular. So if you're the GM, do you wait for it to completely tank, or do you pull the switch early and try to get ahead of things?

And for those of you that wonder 'why sports', remember that the ticket is one of the highest billing stations in the market. If you're going to try and drink somebody else's milkshake, do you stick your straw in the shotglass, or the big gulp?