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Ryan Seacrest to middays on Kiss 108
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I agree with what all of you are saying.
Personnally, I'd rather hear Rick Dees. For me, he is so much more better, or even Shadoe Stevens. (Yes Shadoe Stevens) is still out there and has a One Hour Weekend Top Ten Countdown "Top Of The World"
Yes, Sunny Joe White would roll over in his grave.
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Personnally, I'd rather hear Rick Dees. For me, he is so much more better, or even Shadoe Stevens. (Yes Shadoe Stevens) is still out there and has a One Hour Weekend Top Ten Countdown "Top Of The World"
Yes, Sunny Joe White would roll over in his grave.
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kms575 said:
American Idol still gets HUGE ratings. Plus, this guy is all over E! and he hosts New Year's Rocking Eve, he is very noticable and well liked by the demo. I have no problem with Seacrest and/or his show; as a matter of fact, his morning show on KIIS is good (I wanted it to be bad when I listened, but it won me over).
It just sucks when it takes jobs...
mistermicrophone said:
Ryan Seacrest couldn't carry Sunny Joe White's headphones.
mistermicrophone said:
How about over on Jamn' 94.5 when Deja Vu congratulated "our" Boston Celtics after they won the championship? (She vt's out of New York, doesn't she? Probably a KNICKS FAN)
12 In a Row said:
That people 'know' Seacrest was not a part of this discussion. What this is about is the homogenization of the dial. And, corporate thinking. Clear Channel is hurriedly slapping this show into markets (big and small) where they have CHRs. Whether Seacrest is overexposed or whether he would be popular in a given market does not seem to play into the bottom line thinking that's happening in the boardroom. Nor do local wishes, apparently. It's a corporate edict.
What's more, Kiss 108 is Boston's CHR station. It's format didn't become popular by being radio's answer to Entertainment Tonight. To paraphrase Bill Clinton: 'It's the music, stupid'. And, the local personalities framing it. This show does none of those things. By making Kiss 108 sound exactly the same as some station in Tennessee, I don't see Clear Channel gaining market share for an already successful station. What I see is them "fixing" something that isn't broken. But it matters not, because WXKS is a CHR formatted station owned by Clear Channel. So, it's on the same list as the company's CHRs in other markets, the list where this show is "required" programming.
I have actually listened to Seacrest's local am drive show in LA on KIIS. And, it's a surprisingly good show. For LA. During morning drive. That's where it's good. Taking a good thing, providing too much of it, and to places that aren't asking for it is a recipe for mediocrity.
By 10:00 am, listeners want music. They tune in to a CHR station to hear the hits and not about whether Christina Agulera had a bowel movement today. If listeners in Boston want to hear CHR music at work, now where will they turn? And, that's why I compared this with what's been happening in urban radio for quite some time. Many of those stations aren't "in format" for most of the day. If you want urban/AC music in many cities, the window is limited to 10-2 pm, evenings and overnights. The rest of the time, it's pretty much talk.
Lastly, please don't try to analogize this with the early days of radio. This show isn't like "Fibber McGee and Molly." These new syndication deals don't represent the rebirth of NBC Blue. Completely different things are at work here. People wanted to hear the national entertainment programs in their cities. That simply moved to TV during the 50's, as did the affiliation model. No one slapped Jack Benny into a timeslot on radio in order to save a few bucks. No, I am sorry but your comparison there is not valid in my view.
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BRNout said:
Answer: A 4-letter word that begins with an "I" and ends with a "pod".
radiorama1 said:
What does this have to do with Sunny Joe White?? Two different era's of radio.
BRNout said:
Not 9AM when they get to the office? If they can stand longer bits for an hour while at work with the morning shows (or those that stay on until 10AM), why not longer bits during the day?
BRNout said:
Homogenization is not something new, it's been going on in the business world for decades, including radio.
Slapping an extremely popular personality with lots of solid entertainment makes good business sense.
Common thinking has been,"all listeners want is music after 10 a.m.",causing a sea of blandness, sameness and 12 in a row.
"Don't fix it if it ain't broken." NO..... consumers want and demand better.
You are correct, take a good thing and beat it to death. It's the American Way.
Idol and it's ripoffs.
CSI and it's ripoffs.
Law & Order
Reality shows, Rocky 1,2.3.4.etc. etc. etc.
Yes, no one slapped Jack Benny in there to save a few bucks. He was popular.
No one is slapping an unknown into mid-days at KISS.
He is well known, popular, good show, great guests, and it's likely he won't mis-pronouce Natick.
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I just noticed I suck at army time...1900-2400 for the night guy, not 1700-2400. Whatever.
- Everything I have heard points to Shelly getting bumped for Seacrest (I've been hearing this rumor out of NYC for a couple months now...they are just letting her run out a little more of her contract)
- And "12 In A Row", who said "It's likely he wont mispronounce Natick"...its even more likely he won't even attempt to mention Natick. LOL
- Everything I have heard points to Shelly getting bumped for Seacrest (I've been hearing this rumor out of NYC for a couple months now...they are just letting her run out a little more of her contract)
- And "12 In A Row", who said "It's likely he wont mispronounce Natick"...its even more likely he won't even attempt to mention Natick. LOL
Not true according to R&R. Seacrest will be 10AM-1PM. Shelly Wade moves to 1PM-3PM. This effectively extends the non-live, non-local midday by an hour. Recall it was already voicetracked by Shelly Wade 10AM-2PM. Romeo moves from 2PM-7PM to 3PM-8PM. No word in the article on a night DJ. Hopefully, the night DJ is live and local...perhaps until 1 or 2AM???
DJbobo said:
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That people 'know' Seacrest was not a part of this discussion. What this is about is the homogenization of the dial. And, corporate thinking. Clear Channel is hurriedly slapping this show into markets (big and small) where they have CHRs. Whether Seacrest is overexposed or whether he would be popular in a given market does not seem to play into the bottom line thinking that's happening in the boardroom. Nor do local wishes, apparently. It's a corporate edict.
No, this is a "save money" edict. It's also a way for them to keep Ryan Seacrest happy. This is what John Hogan thinks the future of radio is. I happen to think he's 100% wrong!
What's more, Kiss 108 is Boston's CHR station. It's format didn't become popular by being radio's answer to Entertainment Tonight. To paraphrase Bill Clinton: 'It's the music, stupid'. And, the local personalities framing it. This show does none of those things. By making Kiss 108 sound exactly the same as some station in Tennessee, I don't see Clear Channel gaining market share for an already successful station. What I see is them "fixing" something that isn't broken. But it matters not, because WXKS is a CHR formatted station owned by Clear Channel. So, it's on the same list as the company's CHRs in other markets, the list where this show is "required" programming.
Yes, just like the Carson Daly show was a few years ago. This is Clear Channel's way of saving money and also attracting national advertisers. The irony is that it'll work! Why? Because KISS has no competition! No one has the balls to take them on, so they can get away with this kind of crap!
I have actually listened to Seacrest's local am drive show in LA on KIIS. And, it's a surprisingly good show. For LA. During morning drive. That's where it's good. Taking a good thing, providing too much of it, and to places that aren't asking for it is a recipe for mediocrity.
His show is okay. Just okay. I thought that Dees did a better show. But they were cutting his show up as well and playing it all over the place. The irony is that this show will not be timely in Boston, as it actually will be yesterday's edited up show that you will be getting.
By 10:00 am, listeners want music. They tune in to a CHR station to hear the hits and not about whether Christina Agulera had a bowel movement today. If listeners in Boston want to hear CHR music at work, now where will they turn? And, that's why I compared this with what's been happening in urban radio for quite some time. Many of those stations aren't "in format" for most of the day. If you want urban/AC music in many cities, the window is limited to 10-2 pm, evenings and overnights. The rest of the time, it's pretty much talk.
This show will be more talk then music. What they are hoping for is that the Matty listeners will stay.
Lastly, please don't try to analogize this with the early days of radio. This show isn't like "Fibber McGee and Molly." These new syndication deals don't represent the rebirth of NBC Blue. Completely different things are at work here. People wanted to hear the national entertainment programs in their cities. That simply moved to TV during the 50's, as did the affiliation model. No one slapped Jack Benny into a timeslot on radio in order to save a few bucks. No, I am sorry but your comparison there is not valid in my view.
Whether you like it or not, Clear Channel is here to stay, and under their new owners they are also under the mandate to cut, cut and cut more. Unfortunately, there is no more fat left, nor is there muscle, so their cuts are now grinding away at the very skeleton of all their radio stations. John Hogan wants to keep his job, so he'll continue to be a yes man for the bean counters. Expect more and more McRadio from them.
That people 'know' Seacrest was not a part of this discussion. What this is about is the homogenization of the dial. And, corporate thinking. Clear Channel is hurriedly slapping this show into markets (big and small) where they have CHRs. Whether Seacrest is overexposed or whether he would be popular in a given market does not seem to play into the bottom line thinking that's happening in the boardroom. Nor do local wishes, apparently. It's a corporate edict.
No, this is a "save money" edict. It's also a way for them to keep Ryan Seacrest happy. This is what John Hogan thinks the future of radio is. I happen to think he's 100% wrong!
What's more, Kiss 108 is Boston's CHR station. It's format didn't become popular by being radio's answer to Entertainment Tonight. To paraphrase Bill Clinton: 'It's the music, stupid'. And, the local personalities framing it. This show does none of those things. By making Kiss 108 sound exactly the same as some station in Tennessee, I don't see Clear Channel gaining market share for an already successful station. What I see is them "fixing" something that isn't broken. But it matters not, because WXKS is a CHR formatted station owned by Clear Channel. So, it's on the same list as the company's CHRs in other markets, the list where this show is "required" programming.
Yes, just like the Carson Daly show was a few years ago. This is Clear Channel's way of saving money and also attracting national advertisers. The irony is that it'll work! Why? Because KISS has no competition! No one has the balls to take them on, so they can get away with this kind of crap!
I have actually listened to Seacrest's local am drive show in LA on KIIS. And, it's a surprisingly good show. For LA. During morning drive. That's where it's good. Taking a good thing, providing too much of it, and to places that aren't asking for it is a recipe for mediocrity.
His show is okay. Just okay. I thought that Dees did a better show. But they were cutting his show up as well and playing it all over the place. The irony is that this show will not be timely in Boston, as it actually will be yesterday's edited up show that you will be getting.
By 10:00 am, listeners want music. They tune in to a CHR station to hear the hits and not about whether Christina Agulera had a bowel movement today. If listeners in Boston want to hear CHR music at work, now where will they turn? And, that's why I compared this with what's been happening in urban radio for quite some time. Many of those stations aren't "in format" for most of the day. If you want urban/AC music in many cities, the window is limited to 10-2 pm, evenings and overnights. The rest of the time, it's pretty much talk.
This show will be more talk then music. What they are hoping for is that the Matty listeners will stay.
Lastly, please don't try to analogize this with the early days of radio. This show isn't like "Fibber McGee and Molly." These new syndication deals don't represent the rebirth of NBC Blue. Completely different things are at work here. People wanted to hear the national entertainment programs in their cities. That simply moved to TV during the 50's, as did the affiliation model. No one slapped Jack Benny into a timeslot on radio in order to save a few bucks. No, I am sorry but your comparison there is not valid in my view.
Whether you like it or not, Clear Channel is here to stay, and under their new owners they are also under the mandate to cut, cut and cut more. Unfortunately, there is no more fat left, nor is there muscle, so their cuts are now grinding away at the very skeleton of all their radio stations. John Hogan wants to keep his job, so he'll continue to be a yes man for the bean counters. Expect more and more McRadio from them.
quote-"This is Clear Channel's way of saving money and also attracting national advertisers."
Hold on a second.
You're running a business. You have a the answer to save money, make MORE money and chances are,
more listeners. Where's the downside?
Are you going to tell your investors, I had a chance bring more listeners and money to our company, but I turned it down.
I think keeping Lucy LiveNLocal talking about the weather in Natick is the answer.
The Donald would like to see you in the board room.
Hold on a second.
You're running a business. You have a the answer to save money, make MORE money and chances are,
more listeners. Where's the downside?
Are you going to tell your investors, I had a chance bring more listeners and money to our company, but I turned it down.
I think keeping Lucy LiveNLocal talking about the weather in Natick is the answer.
The Donald would like to see you in the board room.
12 In a Row said:quote-"This is Clear Channel's way of saving money and also attracting national advertisers."
Hold on a second.
You're running a business. You have a the answer to save money, make MORE money and chances are,
more listeners. Where's the downside?
Are you going to tell your investors, I had a chance bring more listeners and money to our company, but I turned it down.
I think keeping Lucy LiveNLocal talking about the weather in Natick is the answer.
The Donald would like to see you in the board room.
The airwaves are public property. One could make the argument that Clear Channel is not serving the audience that it's supposed to by yanking all local programming and airing out-of-date syndicated shows in their place. I'd love to hear your argument that this move actually represents an IMPROVEMENT in Kiss 108's programming.
Conversely, all I see is how it maximizes profit. Stretch that concept to its logical conclusion and you'll have NO local programming whatsoever. All you'll have is a hodgepodge of bird feed and poor examples of a few formats. Like what has happened in far too many small markets. As it is, very few stations offer anything other than mindless chatter during morning drive. Do we need this all day? Apparently, someone thinks that we do - or that they do (for the sake of making an extra $1.50). At the minimum, this is a bad move for the listener and it's the continuation of a bad trend for anyone employed in the radio business (except the CEO).
The most profitable thing of all would be to run a national network of one program that's the same on all stations. No local content. No pesky newsreaders or traffic reporters to pay $6/hour. Just a bunch of repeaters like those religious zealots from Twin Falls, Idaho do. Is that really what you're advocating here? Because this is yet another step in that direction.
Though I am not a fan of big government, I'm beginning to think that holders of a broadcast license should be held to some minimum level of responsibility to the audiences that they are supposed to serve. Remember, Clear Channel may own the station - but WE own the frequency. Or, we're supposed to. And, I am also beginning to think that we're approaching the tipping point where something needs to happen. There's too little local programming - everywhere. And, it's happened so gradually that few have noticed how different radio is from what it was 25 years ago.
I'm not aware of ANYONE in Boston begging to hear scraps of Seacrest's LA morning show. Or in Chicago. Or in Philly. Yet all three markets (and others) are getting it anyway. Whether you like it or not. In Boston, at least, they'll probably get away with it because there's nowhere else for the CHR listener to turn. Elsewhere, I hope Clear Channel gets schlocked for this cheapa$$ move.
BRNout said:
Shelly Wade is currently in NYC...so...you are replacing an OUT OF MARKET voicetracked show with a syndicated show (by the way, the local stations still control the music in the Seacrest show). KISS will still air imaging, spots and promotional elements for the station. So where are they yanking local programming??
As for an argument about improving KISS's programming, it's a show that may be attractive to the listeners. There is NO way for anyone to know for sure what the ratings will be, regardless of your opinion of the move, the rating may be through the roof...only time will tell. Who knows, this may actually work...KIOI in San Francisco just came back #1 W25 - 54 with Seacrest on in the Afternoon. I know, Boston is not San Fran, but that debunks your "no one outside of LA wants to hear his show" comment!
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