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Say "Adios" to "Ugly Betty!"

Carmine5 said:
I enjoyed the first two seasons of the show. And, of course, when it debuted "Ugly Betty" was the hip flavor of the month. But as happens with even the best shows, the hipness factor wore off.

I could smell trouble when the producers announced that they were moving production to New York. Granted, the setting for the show is NYC but when a producer feels the need to move production to another location to give the show, what they think would be, 'greater dimension' it usually means the show is losing its edge and audience. So far, none of the CSI shows have been moved to the cities where the shows are set.

I've seen the Columbian original of "Ugly Betty" and, frankly, its enduring popularity eludes me. But then, I'm not Hispanic.

c5

Could you just see CSI: New York moving to, say, Seattle? :D
 
formeraa said:
Carmine5 said:
I enjoyed the first two seasons of the show. And, of course, when it debuted "Ugly Betty" was the hip flavor of the month. But as happens with even the best shows, the hipness factor wore off.

I could smell trouble when the producers announced that they were moving production to New York. Granted, the setting for the show is NYC but when a producer feels the need to move production to another location to give the show, what they think would be, 'greater dimension' it usually means the show is losing its edge and audience. So far, none of the CSI shows have been moved to the cities where the shows are set.

I've seen the Columbian original of "Ugly Betty" and, frankly, its enduring popularity eludes me. But then, I'm not Hispanic.

c5

Could you just see CSI: New York moving to, say, Seattle? :D

What I mean is that the CSI shows are mostly shot in So. California and not in the locale in which the shows are set.

For example, two months ago the CSI: Miami crew snarled up traffic in Long Beach, CA for nearly a week shooting scenes on Loynes Drive. The other CSI shows are shot mostly in and around Los Angeles County. But that hasn't hindered the franchise's popularity or ratings.

c5
 
Carmine5 said:
formeraa said:
Carmine5 said:
I enjoyed the first two seasons of the show. And, of course, when it debuted "Ugly Betty" was the hip flavor of the month. But as happens with even the best shows, the hipness factor wore off.

I could smell trouble when the producers announced that they were moving production to New York. Granted, the setting for the show is NYC but when a producer feels the need to move production to another location to give the show, what they think would be, 'greater dimension' it usually means the show is losing its edge and audience. So far, none of the CSI shows have been moved to the cities where the shows are set.

I've seen the Columbian original of "Ugly Betty" and, frankly, its enduring popularity eludes me. But then, I'm not Hispanic.

c5

Could you just see CSI: New York moving to, say, Seattle? :D

What I mean is that the CSI shows are mostly shot in So. California and not in the locale in which the shows are set.

For example, two months ago the CSI: Miami crew snarled up traffic in Long Beach, CA for nearly a week shooting scenes on Loynes Drive. The other CSI shows are shot mostly in and around Los Angeles County. But that hasn't hindered the franchise's popularity or ratings.

c5

I guess my joke fell flat. I totally understood what you were saying.
 
formeraa said:
Carmine5 said:
formeraa said:
Carmine5 said:
I enjoyed the first two seasons of the show. And, of course, when it debuted "Ugly Betty" was the hip flavor of the month. But as happens with even the best shows, the hipness factor wore off.

I could smell trouble when the producers announced that they were moving production to New York. Granted, the setting for the show is NYC but when a producer feels the need to move production to another location to give the show, what they think would be, 'greater dimension' it usually means the show is losing its edge and audience. So far, none of the CSI shows have been moved to the cities where the shows are set.

I've seen the Columbian original of "Ugly Betty" and, frankly, its enduring popularity eludes me. But then, I'm not Hispanic.

c5

Could you just see CSI: New York moving to, say, Seattle? :D

What I mean is that the CSI shows are mostly shot in So. California and not in the locale in which the shows are set.

For example, two months ago the CSI: Miami crew snarled up traffic in Long Beach, CA for nearly a week shooting scenes on Loynes Drive. The other CSI shows are shot mostly in and around Los Angeles County. But that hasn't hindered the franchise's popularity or ratings.

c5

I guess my joke fell flat. I totally understood what you were saying.

Sorry formeraa, I'm used to people misunderstanding me here. Yes, trading NYC for the more prosaic, but picturesque, Seattle might not create any heat ratings-wise. I know, how about CSI: Barstow?

c5
 
As a follow up, here is an article on what we can expect from the final episode of Ugly Betty (she gets her braces off and goes to England):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...rera-flashes-white-smile-shoots-episodes.html

I was kind of hoping she and Daniel would tie the knot. After all those two characters had been through together and the affection and bonding they developed for each other as a result, it would certainly be a logical and I think satisfying conclusion to the series.

c5
 
I wish she could get her braces off and continue as a character. She has such a pretty smile.

At least we know why she wore them so long: the gay lawyer in "Modern Family" is her orthodontist on this show and he has a crush on her. And who can blame him? She's adorable.
 
Carmine5 said:
formeraa said:
Carmine5 said:
formeraa said:
Carmine5 said:
I enjoyed the first two seasons of the show. And, of course, when it debuted "Ugly Betty" was the hip flavor of the month. But as happens with even the best shows, the hipness factor wore off.

I could smell trouble when the producers announced that they were moving production to New York. Granted, the setting for the show is NYC but when a producer feels the need to move production to another location to give the show, what they think would be, 'greater dimension' it usually means the show is losing its edge and audience. So far, none of the CSI shows have been moved to the cities where the shows are set.

I've seen the Columbian original of "Ugly Betty" and, frankly, its enduring popularity eludes me. But then, I'm not Hispanic.

c5

Could you just see CSI: New York moving to, say, Seattle? :D

What I mean is that the CSI shows are mostly shot in So. California and not in the locale in which the shows are set.

For example, two months ago the CSI: Miami crew snarled up traffic in Long Beach, CA for nearly a week shooting scenes on Loynes Drive. The other CSI shows are shot mostly in and around Los Angeles County. But that hasn't hindered the franchise's popularity or ratings.

c5

I guess my joke fell flat. I totally understood what you were saying.

Sorry formeraa, I'm used to people misunderstanding me here. Yes, trading NYC for the more prosaic, but picturesque, Seattle might not create any heat ratings-wise. I know, how about CSI: Barstow?

c5


Although slightly off-topic, have you noticed that The Medium is set in Phoenix, but it's perpetually dark and gloomy in their house? I assure you that, unless it's always after dusk, there is NOTHING dark and gloomy about Phoenix.
 
Carmine5 said:
As a follow up, here is an article on what we can expect from the final episode of Ugly Betty (she gets her braces off and goes to England):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...rera-flashes-white-smile-shoots-episodes.html

I was kind of hoping she and Daniel would tie the knot. After all those two characters had been through together and the affection and bonding they developed for each other as a result, it would certainly be a logical and I think satisfying conclusion to the series.

c5

Well, you partially got your wish. Didn't tie the knot, but looks like a budding romance!
 
formeraa said:
Carmine5 said:
As a follow up, here is an article on what we can expect from the final episode of Ugly Betty (she gets her braces off and goes to England):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...rera-flashes-white-smile-shoots-episodes.html

I was kind of hoping she and Daniel would tie the knot. After all those two characters had been through together and the affection and bonding they developed for each other as a result, it would certainly be a logical and I think satisfying conclusion to the series.

c5

Well, you partially got your wish. Didn't tie the knot, but looks like a budding romance!

Yes, they left it somewhat ambiguous but gave us a pretty good idea of where their relationship was heading. And it was a fun little twist for Betty to offer Daniel a job as her assistant.

But personally, I thought the last episode was a little rushed as the producers frantically tried to tie up all the loose ends with the hour. And it's interesting to note that rather than a huge turn out for UB's final episode, the trades reported that viewership was "subdued"--higher then the previous episode but no where near what it was when the series began.

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/ar...ts_50/Subdued_finale_for_ABC_s_Ugly_Betty.asp

It's still kind of a mystery to me how a series can go from being the hottest and most talked about one year to ending in a hardly-noticed whimper the next. This especially seems to be the case with the TV series of today as opposed to a series like "Gunsmoke" which had an enduring 20 year run. Perhaps viewers today are more easily distracted to something new and not as loyal to a show as viewers of a former time. Or maybe the characters in the series don't lend themselves to a long term relationship on the part of the viewer. That may have been the case with Ugly Betty.

Whatever the reason Ugly Betty was fun to hang around with while she was with us.

c5
 
Carmine5 said:
Whatever the reason Ugly Betty was fun to hang around with while she was with us.
I have to add that even at the beginning, America Ferrera was the best looking person ever described as ugly.
 
I think that everything is instant these days. In the 70's, shows were often given a whole season to succeed (e.g. classic sitcoms like All in the Family were not an immediate success). Today, if the overnights are not good, then the series may not come back for a second week. I think that it was amazing that ABC actually let the creators do a real series finale (many times shows are just cancelled and sometimes episodes are left unaired).
 
fortt3 said:
Carmine5 said:
Whatever the reason Ugly Betty was fun to hang around with while she was with us.
I have to add that even at the beginning, America Ferrera was the best looking person ever described as ugly.
Even in the pilot, without her glasses, if you couldn't see her braces, she wasn't bad looking.

I always thought her chothes were pretty.

There were photos of her smiling without the braces and you knew she wasn't actually ugly.

But she was absolutely gorgeous in a recent episode where she imagined Hilda was the ugly sister (as if that were possile).
 
vchimpanzee said:
But she was absolutely gorgeous in a recent episode where she imagined Hilda was the ugly sister (as if that were possile).

Actually, that almost happened. Ana Ortiz originally auditioned for the Betty role but when came time to start casting the characters the producers gave her the Hilda role instead.
 
formeraa said:
I think that everything is instant these days. In the 70's, shows were often given a whole season to succeed (e.g. classic sitcoms like All in the Family were not an immediate success). Today, if the overnights are not good, then the series may not come back for a second week. I think that it was amazing that ABC actually let the creators do a real series finale (many times shows are just cancelled and sometimes episodes are left unaired).

Well, ABC did give it 2 or 3 seasons at Thursday at 8pm. Up against Survivor but a weak NBC comedy lineup. I think ABC felt that it wasn't keeping up as strong as say Grey's Anatomy. They then put Betty on hiatus, and experimented with other shows, like Cheryl Hines' In the Motherhood, and another comedy. Putting the show on hiatus that first time was a significant blow.

ABC would rather experiment and try to find a new knock out hit, rather than keep a show that is just ok in ratings. The current runner up is Flash Forward, with the hope Lost fans will watch it. I think it's overkill with FlashForward and V, while Lost hasn't wrapped up yet.

Another thing is Ugly Betty could have used more solid writing and maybe more guest star appearances (by Salma Hayek and others) to keep the shows ratings a little higher that ABC wouldn't have put in on hiatus and moved it around, until it eventually lost its audience.

I'm surprised the writers wrapped up everything. They could have saved some stuff , in the hopes of a romantic comedy movie like SATC.
 
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