Select Univision Radio Stations Sold

[davideduardo]

NPR didn't do a story on this sale. The closest thing I can see is this report from WLRN, the Miami public radio station:

A new Latino media group is buying up — and shaking up — Spanish-language radio

Univision is selling many of its Spanish-language radio stations — including Miami's ultraconservative Radio Mambí — to a group led by Democrats.

www.wlrn.org

And that is where the NPR gringo attitude came in. WAQI preserves the feelings of the first generation of Cuban refugees. Those are the ones who had family members imprisoned and killed... or worse. Those are the ones who lost their jobs and their possessions because they criticized the Castro regime. Those are the ones...

Yeah, I am an honorary member of the Association of Cuban Journalists in Exile. And I know one person in Miami who watched the Castro agents murder her father in front of the family for questioning Castro in the class he taught in the university in Havana. And other friends and past employees have similar brutal stories to tell.

 

[TheBigA]

And that is where the NPR gringo attitude came in.

I don't see any evidence of that in this story. Maybe you can be specific.

 

[davideduardo]

I don't see any evidence of that in this story. Maybe you can be specific.

The calling of the WAQI reporting and commentary as not being truthful. It is very truthful, but it presents a different attitude towards Cuba than NPR has traditionally reflected.

I specifically cite WAQI as it is the only UVN AM station engaging in political talk and definitely the only one that would not reflect the attitude of white blue eyed anglos in DC who do not understand the Cuban situation and never have.

 

[BamaTX]

But if they were talking about Spanish language media, then they don't realize that there is no national talk network dealing with sociopolitical issues and when that has been tried, it failed quite horribly.

The way Mikey Radio wrote his post, it makes it sound like the group was monitoring all sorts of Spanish language programming. And that makes the most sense as even morning shows heard on Regional Mexican formats will dip their toes into politics from time to time.

The point is that the group didn't like what they heard and they're taking it upon themselves to broadcast their own truth and not the truth of others.

 

[TheBigA]

The calling of the WAQI reporting and commentary as not being truthful.

Show me where the reporter said it wasn't truthful. Once again, this is not NPR. Don't lump in station reporting with the network.

BTW Commentary doesn't have to be truthful. If it's identified as commentary.

 

[davideduardo]

The way Mikey Radio wrote his post, it makes it sound like the group was monitoring all sorts of Spanish language programming. And that makes the most sense as even morning shows heard on Regional Mexican formats will dip their toes into politics from time to time.

But those shows will definitely be progressive in attitude.

The point is that the group didn't like what they heard and they're taking it upon themselves to broadcast their own truth and not the truth of others.

Obviously, they did not look at the history of other attempts to do national Spanish language talk networks with precisely that perspective.

 

[BamaTX]

No, it actually has UVN administering all the programming for at least the first year.

It should be obvious that they plan to supplement the sports coverage with social issues. But they have a bunch of totally assimilated, mostly second or later generation Hispanics talking about what they think first generation Spanish dominant Hispanics want.

For one year.

Like I said, this will be their springboard into what seems to be a full fledged Spanish politics radio network.

Three national network attempts were made in the last 22 years to attempt to reach Spanish dominants. All three failed quite magnificently.

I'm not arguing with you here. I don't think it's going to financially work. But when you look at the list of people involved, I'm not sure profits is the main goal here. This looks like it's shaping up to be the unofficial mouthpiece of the "DÑC".

But of course, this is just baseless speculation on my part.

 

[davideduardo]

Show me where the reporter said it wasn't truthful. Once again, this is not NPR. Don't lump in station reporting with the network.

I was responding to a post that said that report was on NPR, not a local affiliate.

The new ownership group is on record as believing current reporting is not accurate. If the comment was based only on an analysis of a Miami station, then that should be clarified.

 

[TheBigA]

I was responding to a post that said that report was on NPR, not a local affiliate.

There was no reporting by NPR on the sale. That post was false.

The new ownership group is on record as believing current reporting is not accurate. If the comment was based only on an analysis of a Miami station, then that should be clarified.

Then blame the ownership group, not the reporter. I think it's obvious that the reporter is based in Miami and his emphasis in the story is specifically about the station in Miami. I don't see any attempt to generalize to other markets.

 

[TheBigA]

The point is that the group didn't like what they heard and they're taking it upon themselves to broadcast their own truth and not the truth of others.

Which BTW is their prerogative. I remember a few years ago a local Miami politician objected to the sale of a radio station to a conservative group. At the time, I posted here that if that politician has any objections, he should raise some money and buy a competing station in the market. Obviously that's what's happening here. So local residents will now have access to both sides of the spectrum.

https://radioink.com/2021/04/21/carr-pushes-back-on-democrats/

 

[BamaTX]

But those shows will definitely be progressive in attitude.

Sure.

But the group is probably splitting hairs on the things they hear. Maybe they don't like how current issues are being presented by random morning talk show hosts. For example, complaining about Gas prices is probably a very popular talking point these days. Maybe the group doesn't like how hosts don't absolve the current administration from the responsibility and aren't blaming republicans enough. Or maybe they don't like how some agendas they care about aren't being pushed/spinned enough (i.e. abortion with Latinos is a very touchy subject).

Like I said, everyone's truth is different. It's just perspective of how data and information is presented. CNN would call Fox News fake news and vice versa.

 

[BamaTX]

There was no reporting by NPR on the sale. That post was false.

It was said over the air... allegedly. Not everything said over the air is made into an online article.

 

[TheBigA]

It was said over the air... allegedly. Not everything said over the air is made into an online article.

If you compare the post with the article I linked, you'll see they're very close. So my guess is the poster was listening to WLRN. It might have been a local insert during All Things Considered.

A new Latino media group is buying up — and shaking up — Spanish-language radio

Univision is selling many of its Spanish-language radio stations — including Miami's ultraconservative Radio Mambí — to a group led by Democrats.

www.wlrn.org

 

[davideduardo]

There was no reporting by NPR on the sale. That post was false.

I think that there is a natural tendency to attribute anything on a local NPR affiliate to NPR as most people think that the network and the stations are one in the same thing... a monolith.

Then blame the ownership group, not the reporter. I think it's obvious that the reporter is based in Miami and his emphasis in the story is specifically about the station in Miami. I don't see any attempt to generalize to other markets.

But there was no effort taken to see if the Miami station was unique (it is... it's name even has Cuban socio-political foundations). The statement was made, per the post here, generically.

 

[BamaTX]

If you compare the post with the article I linked, you'll see they're very close. So my guess is the poster was listening to WLRN. It might have been a local insert during All Things Considered.

A new Latino media group is buying up — and shaking up — Spanish-language radio

Univision is selling many of its Spanish-language radio stations — including Miami's ultraconservative Radio Mambí — to a group led by Democrats.

www.wlrn.org

That's an article from an NPR affiliate. Not NPR or NPR show itself.

 

[TheBigA]

That's an article from an NPR affiliate. Not NPR or NPR show itself.

Yes that's what I said. There is nothing on the story at NPR.

Compare the WLRN article with post #17 in this thread.

 

[TheBigA]

I think that there is a natural tendency to attribute anything on a local NPR affiliate to NPR as most people think that the network and the stations are one in the same thing... a monolith.

Incorrect assumption. The stations run programming from many sources, and most do their own original reporting as well.

But there was no effort taken to see if the Miami station was unique (it is... it's name even has Cuban socio-political foundations). The statement was made, per the post here, generically.

Not the way I read it. The story is totally about Miami. It doesn't mention the formats of any other stations.

 

[davideduardo]

Incorrect assumption. The stations run programming from many sources, and most do their own original reporting as well.

You say that as an insider. The casual listener identifies those as "the NPR" station. In English language research, time and time again I heard people refer to the local "NPR station" and hardly ever did they give its call letters.

Not the way I read it. The story is totally about Miami. It doesn't mention the formats of any other stations.

Yet the report, obviously condensed by the poster here, seemed to indicate that such a station was nationally typical. Which is not true at all.

 

[TheBigA]

Yet the report, obviously condensed by the poster here, seemed to indicate that such a station was nationally typical. Which is not true at all.

Which is why it always helps to go to the source.

 

[davideduardo]

That's an article from an NPR affiliate. Not NPR or NPR show itself.

But, as I mentioned to BigA, the typical NPR listener... and I've interviewed many myself in one-on-ones and heard many more in groups I have organized... thinks of the local station as "the NPR station" or, simply, "NPR".

This is the data behind the reasoning for many network affiliates to simply call themselves "NBC Palm Springs" or "CBS Rapid City" instead of using call letters or a channel number. It's the way actual listeners and viewers perceive network affiliates.