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Should Jets Simulcast On WRXP This Year?

radioguy39nj said:
CBS returned Giants' overflow games to 92.3 FM when listeners were upset last year when those games were on 101.1 FM... Could the return of Giants' overflow games to 92.3 be a prelude to the possibility of WFAN on 660 AM and 92.3 FM? We shall see! :)

I say, no go. If CBS were to simulcast any of their AM properties on 92.3, it would have to be either of their news stations, probably 1010 WINS, which has been trailing WCBS, even during the Yankees offseason. And consider in Philadelphia, a sports station on FM has not lured CBS to move WIP to underperforming 94.1 FM - yet, anyway...
 
cbs is gonna keep now 92.3 on the air for a while mabye 2 more years i just dont see them pulling it yet however i can be wrong



on the other hand something must be done with WYSP in philly but what ?
 
I know - they can start calling themselves "Philadelphia's Rock Experience" now that that's available! :D
 
DToTheJ said:
And consider in Philadelphia, a sports station on FM has not lured CBS to move WIP to underperforming 94.1 FM - yet, anyway...

Doesn't Philly have their own Sports FM station called the Phanatic? From what I remember, WYSP also carried (and may still carry) all the Eagles games.
 
Now certainly hasn't hurt the hot rockin flame throwin Z100,currently #3 in the latest snapshot...
they should have come on board as a classic Top 40 , doing a tuesday night top 20 local countdown like Counsin Brucie used to do(base it on itunes sales for the NY market),and they should assign numbers to the hits as well, make it more interesting, come up with a weekly survey sheet that WABC ,WMCA and even Z100 and WPLJ used to make available weekly in the record stores;
Now(or Z for that matter) can provide a printer-ready survey sheet for the kids to keep; it bonds the listener to the station; the hits sound better on your fave station, it's just the way it is
 
frozenfiresb said:
Doesn't Philly have their own Sports FM station called the Phanatic?

Yes, but 97.5 is, more or less, a repeater of 950 AM.
 
DToTheJ said:
radioguy39nj said:
CBS returned Giants' overflow games to 92.3 FM when listeners were upset last year when those games were on 101.1 FM... Could the return of Giants' overflow games to 92.3 be a prelude to the possibility of WFAN on 660 AM and 92.3 FM? We shall see! :)

I say, no go. If CBS were to simulcast any of their AM properties on 92.3, it would have to be either of their news stations, probably 1010 WINS, which has been trailing WCBS, even during the Yankees offseason. And consider in Philadelphia, a sports station on FM has not lured CBS to move WIP to underperforming 94.1 FM - yet, anyway...

IMHO, if any of CBS' NY news stations would be simulcast on FM it would Newsradio 880. WINS has been hurt by the PPM rating system. If WCBS Newsradio were to simulcast on FM, the Yankees could remain on 880 and continue the news both on FM and online during the baseball games. There would be call letter issues as classic hits CBS-FM has that brand name, but that could be worked out. They could simulcast "WCBS Newsradio" on FM under different calls. CBS did that in SF, simulcasting All News KCBS on KCBS (740 AM) and KFRC (106.9 FM). The KCBS-FM calls are currently in LA, but I beleive those will be returned to 106.9 FM in SF.

A WFAN simulcast on FM would solve overflow issues. Mets' games could simulcast on 660 AM and on FM, but all Giants' games would air on the FM station while the Mets remain on 660. The Giants would simulcast on AM and FM at the close of the Mets' season, following the formula in other markets. Most Nets and Devils games would remain on WFAN AM or FM, requiring fewer games, if any, to be sold to other stations.

Again, this is all IMHO. :)
 
Sports events should NEVER be simulcast on any music station. People tend to get pissed off when music stations do this that they do not return to sample the station again. They may get a bump in the ratings at game time but overall you lose listeners and is therefore a ratings killer. It would therefore be the downfall of the struggling RXP if they do so.
 
mikerock said:
Sports events should NEVER be simulcast on any music station. People tend to get pissed off when music stations do this that they do not return to sample the station again.

That's absolute BS. Weekend programming is different from weekday programming. Lots of markets do it, and there are no problems with listeners not returning. In this case, listeners aren't returning without the sports interruption, so it's obviously not an issue.
 
TheBigA said:
mikerock said:
Sports events should NEVER be simulcast on any music station. People tend to get pissed off when music stations do this that they do not return to sample the station again.

That's absolute BS. Weekend programming is different from weekday programming. Lots of markets do it, and there are no problems with listeners not returning. In this case, listeners aren't returning without the sports interruption, so it's obviously not an issue.

The old days where you could get away with that are over. People dissatisified with the blandness of radio and commercial interuptions now have a variety of alternatives such as internet streams, ipods and satellite. Giving them another reason not to come back to a bleeding medium would be a miscalculation.
 
mikerock said:
The old days where you could get away with that are over.

Stations are doing it successfully right now.

mikerock said:
People dissatisified with the blandness of radio and commercial interuptions now have a variety of alternatives such as internet streams, ipods and satellite.

Which is why radio stations are dropping music for news, talk, and sports.

mikerock said:
Giving them another reason not to come back to a bleeding medium would be a miscalculation.

Do I have to remind you that they're getting a 1 share WITHOUT sports. If the 4 share they're get for the Jets risks the 1 share for music, I'd say that's a fair trade.
 
mikerock said:
TheBigA said:
mikerock said:
Sports events should NEVER be simulcast on any music station. People tend to get pissed off when music stations do this that they do not return to sample the station again.

That's absolute BS. Weekend programming is different from weekday programming. Lots of markets do it, and there are no problems with listeners not returning. In this case, listeners aren't returning without the sports interruption, so it's obviously not an issue.

The old days where you could get away with that are over. People dissatisified with the blandness of radio and commercial interuptions now have a variety of alternatives such as internet streams, ipods and satellite. Giving them another reason not to come back to a bleeding medium would be a miscalculation.

NFL football is unique in that unlike baseball, hockey and basketball, the home team plays only one game a week. WYSP Philadelphia, a long-time FM rock station, has been the Eagles' flagship since 1992. Their current ratings issues have nothing to do with Eagles' coverage. WYSP probably gets higher ratings for Eagles' games than for its regular format. Eagles' fans who don't regularly listen to WYSP drop by on game day because that's where their team plays! :)
 
TheBigA said it best above: If WRXP got involved even airing New York Rangers hockey games, looking at the status quo they've had during the same period over previous months, it can't hurt to try.
 
It maybe a bump in the ratings for the game but overall a great way to piss off listeners you are trying to bring back to the station. People will sample during these games and figure why bother coming back when you have ipods, satellite and internet streaming. Music stations should play music, sports = sports, etc. This is not the old days or even 5 or 10 years ago. There are too many other choices now.
 
Boy, I bet all those die-hard news junkies are pissed that WCBS-AM is airing them Yankee games every night...
 
mikerock said:
It maybe a bump in the ratings for the game but overall a great way to piss off listeners you are trying to bring back to the station.

You don't sacrifice the interests of the many for the potential of the few. The rock audience has had more than a year to show their support. You can't cower at every possible thing that could piss a listener off, because they're pissed off at anything this station does.
 
mikerock said:
It maybe a bump in the ratings for the game but overall a great way to piss off listeners you are trying to bring back to the station. People will sample during these games and figure why bother coming back when you have ipods, satellite and internet streaming. Music stations should play music, sports = sports, etc. This is not the old days or even 5 or 10 years ago. There are too many other choices now.
I have to agree with this. I think WYSP airing Eagles games was/is very smart, though. Philly's a huge sports city and I think the majority of the listeners of that station are football fans. It just seems to fit that station's brand so well and adds synergy - not so much with RXP and the Jets.
 
Add to that the fact that Philly is more of a rock town than New York City is...
 
Why not put the regular format on the HD2 when sports airs on the HD1? All the listeners have to do is switch to the HD2 to keep hearing the regular format.
 
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