Shutup Bill O'Reilly ( Boston Rappers has a problem with him and others)

[rapking]

Boston Rappers Trash WTKK Jay Severin, Bill O'Reilly and Dick Cheney. http://bostonherald.com/entertainme...3&format=&page=1&listingType=musi#articleFull

 

[kms575]

Agree with O'Reilly or not, nobody should be condoning this garbage. And, on the issue of offensive rap lyrics, I do agree with him.

 

[readingradio]

"Boston Rappers has a problem with him and others"

Really? Has they?

 

[raccoonradio]

Even Olbermann has the sense to condemn this.

You know, it's the 90 per cent of horrible rappers who give the 10 per cent of good ones a bad name.
How about if some group put out a Kill Barrack Obama song? That'd be fine with you? Yeah it's
freedom of speech but there's such a thing as yelling fire in a crowded moviehouse--or death threats.
These guys--and yup, they're white (though many didn't know that)--are now getting death threats
themselves which also isn't right. And oh guys, before you call conservatives Nazis, remember that
Nazi= National SOCIALIST (the left wing) party.

Herald article says in addition to the death threats they have songs (?) slagging Severin and McPhee.
Whether or not they're asking they be killed, I don't know.
Next I bet they'll be condoning blowing up radio stations they don't agree with (and I don't mean
"blowing up the format"). Bring back the days of "Basketball" (Kurtis Blow), "White Lines" (Grandmaster
Melle Mell, IIRC), "Rock Box" (Run DMC), "New York NY" (Grandmaster Flash), and even should I add
"Walk on the Wild Side" (Lou Reed) or "Convoy" both of which could qualify as rap songs!

Freedom of speech includes freedom to REPLY to what some would consider offensive. (The Dixie
Chicks apparently didn't grab that concept, you may recall.)

 

[raccoonradio]

the lyrics say Kill not Shut Up BOR...big difference!

Another example of the positive, life-affirming, educational device that is rap music. Really gives it a good name.

btw as to the name of this thread:
>>the lyrics call for the Fox News star to “be hanged like Benito Mussolini and otherwise killed.”

Not "shut up BOR", they're saying "kill" him. Big difference. A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Waste.
Again, how about if a group (rap, rock, or otherwise) argue that black people be killed/lynched, etc.?
Is that worthy of praise or defense? Of course not.

 

[raccoonradio]

oops, the Michelle they're slagging is Malkin

 

[SonicOverload]

they're the second group to do a song of this title. Some years back, a hardcore punk band called Moment Of Youth had a song called "Kill Bill O'Reilly." I'm in San Francisco so I don't have access to the record to print any of the lyrics. But they're an underground punk band and wouldn't get nearly the notice that this track would.

anyway, they're no Public Enemy and Nas's recent anti-Fox screed "Sly Fox" is a lot better...

 

[ArtSpooner]

"Boston Rappers has a problem with him and others"

Really? Has they?

Rapking's grammar offends me more than any rap lyrics I've ever heard. I must confess, however, that I've never listened to an entire rap song, and I really can't understand most of what's being said or sang or whatever they call it.

 

[raccoonradio]

Some of the earlier rap songs I mentioned above have very clear lyrics. I would add "Rapper's Delight"
by the Sugarhill Gang to them. ("Have you ever went over a friends house to eat
And the food just ain't no good?/ The macaroni's soggy, the peas are mushed,
And the chicken tastes like wood")

 

[nightcrawler35]

It really is annoying when people who really don't know anything
about an art form condemn it. All this garbage was said before
about rock and they're some time over the top glorification of drug
alcohol use in the 60's and 70's. If you don't like it don't listen to it.

 

[mistermicrophone]

It really is annoying when people who really don't know anything
about an art form condemn it. All this garbage was said before
about rock and they're some time over the top glorification of drug
alcohol use in the 60's and 70's. If you don't like it don't listen to it.

I don't think most posters on this board condemn rap as an art form, rather the threat to kill someone. Rap, Rock, Polka, whatever form of music, saying someone must die is disgusting.

 

[LouBertoni]

It really is annoying when people who really don't know anything
about an art form condemn it. All this garbage was said before
about rock and they're some time over the top glorification of drug
alcohol use in the 60's and 70's. If you don't like it don't listen to it.

Ah, art is only for those who understand it.

And anyone that criticize it must not understand it, right?

Art for the elite only....right?

All this garbage was said before
about rock and they're some time over the top glorification of drug
alcohol use in the 60's and 70's. If you don't like it don't listen to it.

Well, if you think of all the rock stars that died of drug overdoses....they were right. Living the lifestyle, it brought many of them death.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/04/AR2007090402026.html

Now look at all of the rappers who have died....

http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/rapper-deathstyle.html

I guess that saying it's "bad" means I don't understand it.....

 

[nightcrawler35]

I'm talking about the double standard that exists. You don't
hear people like Bill o Reilly for example criticizing when Rock star's
talk about doing drugs, alcohol, sex even suicide as an alternative. That's
okay they are just expressing themselves. But when a rapper broaches the
same subject's they should be taken off the air. If your going to be critical
and "fair and balanced". Then stop singling out one form of music.

 

[kms575]

I'm talking about the double standard that exists. You don't
hear people like Bill o Reilly for example criticizing when Rock star's
talk about doing drugs, alcohol, sex even suicide as an alternative. That's
okay they are just expressing themselves. But when a rapper broaches the
same subject's they should be taken off the air. If your going to be critical
and "fair and balanced". Then stop singling out one form of music.

Rap seems to have higher and more violent instances of bad lyrics and it has mass appeal to the younger generation which is easily influenced. I think, in Bill's defense, he has also railed against other formats and even violent video games.

 

[TSBench]

Another example of the positive, life-affirming, educational device that is rap music. Really gives it a good name.

Looks like it's expanding into the field of media criticism. And all this time we thought that rap's contributions to the popular culture were limited to bling, drive-bys, and misogyny. Who wudda thunk it.

Regards,
TSB

 

[nightcrawler35]

I'm talking about the double standard that exists. You don't
hear people like Bill o Reilly for example criticizing when Rock star's
talk about doing drugs, alcohol, sex even suicide as an alternative. That's
okay they are just expressing themselves. But when a rapper broaches the
same subject's they should be taken off the air. If your going to be critical
and "fair and balanced". Then stop singling out one form of music.

[EDIT-post removed--chronic TOS violator]

Rap music is a reflection of whats going on. It's scenarios kids in the inner city have had to deal with long
before rap went mainstream. Just like rock is reflection of other parts of life. Sometimes it's not pretty. Which
leads to my point which im going to make for the last time. Instead of condemning maybe we should listen and
learn. So that we can teach our children alternatives.

 

[LouBertoni]

Rap music is a reflection of whats going on.

Where is "Kill Bill O'Reilley" what's going on...?

Sounds more like what they would like to be going on.

It's scenarios kids in the inner city have had to deal with

No it's not. It's proposing solutions thru violence degrading women.

 

[raccoonradio]

A fan (or perhaps member) of the band apparently put a "Kill Bill O" sticker on a dryer window
at a laundromat near me. Nice to know they also (fans? band member?) believe in defacing
private property. Word!

>>the positive, life-affirming, educational device

Sarcasm, just like when Howie says "Try not to let this destroy your faith in the good name of the
rap community..."

 

[rapking]

I'm talking about the double standard that exists. You don't
hear people like Bill o Reilly for example criticizing when Rock star's
talk about doing drugs, alcohol, sex even suicide as an alternative. That's
okay they are just expressing themselves. But when a rapper broaches the
same subject's they should be taken off the air. If your going to be critical
and "fair and balanced". Then stop singling out one form of music.

Do you even know what in the hell is the issue here?

Your answer should be "no, I don't" because you don't!

The issue here is not a song about sex, drugs, alcohol or suicide. The issue here is a rap song endoring KILLING someone. It would help if people like you would actually READ the story BEFORE commenting. And don't tell me or anybody else on this forum you did read because if you did, I wouldn't have had to point out to you what THE issue at hand is.

And rock stars HAVE been criticized for similar actions/words as well. IIRC, wasn't just a few years ago Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam found his own fans responding in shock and disgust over something he was doing involving a picture of GW Bush and being impaled? That created more of a national reaction than this has.

So, to review, in case you lost focus already, "one form of music" isn't being "singled out." If a mainstream group released a song containing the same type of "suggestion", it would be an issue as well.

Rap music is a reflection of whats going on. It's scenarios kids in the inner city have had to deal with long
before rap went mainstream. Just like rock is reflection of other parts of life. Sometimes it's not pretty. Which
leads to my point which im going to make for the last time. Instead of condemning maybe we should listen and
learn. So that we can teach our children alternatives.

For the most part, That is true but there are some music artist whom want to shock the mainstream to get paid or notice .

 

[rapking]

It really is annoying when people who really don't know anything
about an art form condemn it. All this garbage was said before
about rock and they're some time over the top glorification of drug
alcohol use in the 60's and 70's. If you don't like it don't listen to it.

Ah, art is only for those who understand it.

And anyone that criticize it must not understand it, right?

Art for the elite only....right?

All this garbage was said before
about rock and they're some time over the top glorification of drug
alcohol use in the 60's and 70's. If you don't like it don't listen to it.

Well, if you think of all the rock stars that died of drug overdoses....they were right. Living the lifestyle, it brought many of them death.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/04/AR2007090402026.html

Now look at all of the rappers who have died....

http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/rapper-deathstyle.html

I guess that saying it's "bad" means I don't understand it.....

and Football players die early . Policeman has a high marriage annul rate and Radio personalities has a HIGH Pink slip rate ( 2008 Pink is flying HIGH ) .