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Simian and 64 bit Windows 7

Chris,

What are you using for closures via tcp/ip ?

I'm using broadcast tools switchers with rs232 to ethernet boxes on them, virtual com port driver on the PC so controlready sees a serial port. I went this way as the goal was to have nothing but 2x cat5 between rack and control rooms.
 
BE makes a device called a RIOT. It is a little box running linux. You hook all your triggers to it and it sends TCP strings you can set the Audiovault up to work with. It has 30 inputs and can address multiple on air workstations.

That is only for 64 Bit, though. I use the standard GPIO card on the 32 Bit boxes.
 
We have Simian up and running with the peripherals on the 32 bit Windows 7. Plan on a good day of speaking softly to the computer to get it going. We were going to use two ASI cards, but it proved easier to use a Digigram PCIexpress card we had in a production computer. The second card is used for Wavecart, which we feed out separately to the board, so the ASI's mixing capabilities were not needed.

On using the Broadcast Tools serial devices with a new Windows 7 computer: There are serial to USB adapters, we use one with the Broadcast Tools 32GPI device we have installed. (More recent versions of this device can connect directly to a USB line). Simian accepts this as a serial device.

The Simian "recommended" GPIO device is the Measurement Computing 24 line device (USB-IO24); This is a little plastic box with a bunch of small screws for your incoming trigger lines. Not very practical. Instead I use a variant of that device:

http://www.mccdaq.com/usb-data-acquisition/USB-DIO24-37.aspx

Which has the advantage of a 37 pin D connector on a circuit board with the device. Add a ribbon cable, breakout board (CIO-Mini37) (both available from measurement computing) and an inexpensive Hammond box for the circuit board and you can make a nice neat setup for wiring into the computer.

As the name indicates, this is only 24 trigger lines in. We have an AC station, with Dial Global AC daytime, Delilah at night. Added the Tom Kent weekend shows. Now we have 3 music shows from three different satellites with three different trigger sets. Total trigger lines needed: 30. So we installed the Broadcast Tools 32 GPI device, which also runs off USB, and will talk to the most recent version of Simian.

My control room "furniture" consists of Lowes kitchen cabinets with a countertop in a "T" shape--console on the island. Air computer is in the bottom of a 36" sink base, one door removed for ventilation. The other door has all the trigger line wiring mounted on the inside going into the Measurement Computing breakout boards, then ribbon cables to the 32GPI. Mass of spaghetti.

Now, for outgoing relay closures, I use a 24 relay board, also from Measurement computing. I bought this some dozen years ago for a Wave Cart, the site at MCCDAQ.com shows it is still available. The USB DIO24 device will drive the relays directly through a 37 wire ribbon cable, Simian controls this through the "relay rack." We use the relays to switch programs, our console's channel off and on switches can be controlled remotely (Auditronics 2500 18 channel). So I have a bank of six faders on the far left reserved for the automated programing (Dial Global/Delilah/Tom Kent/Fox News/WV Metro News/Computer) which can be controlled by Simian. The remaining seven faders are separated by blank inserts, and are the ones used by the board ops for live programing (mostly ball games and remotes).
 
I have one of the trigger USB kits for Simian made by Measurement Computing. I use Skimmer Plus and was going to use it with that, but I ended up just keeping 24/7 logging going.

It's just sitting in my closet. If you want it for backup, I'll send it to you if you pay the shipping.
 
TomT said:
My control room "furniture" consists of Lowes kitchen cabinets with a countertop in a "T" shape--console on the island. Air computer is in the bottom of a 36" sink base, one door removed for ventilation. The other door has all the trigger line wiring mounted on the inside going into the Measurement Computing breakout boards, then ribbon cables to the 32GPI. Mass of spaghetti.

Sounds impressive for a "small market" setup! Would love to see a few photos sometime!
 
chriscollins said:
I have one of the trigger USB kits for Simian made by Measurement Computing. I use Skimmer Plus and was going to use it with that, but I ended up just keeping 24/7 logging going.

It's just sitting in my closet. If you want it for backup, I'll send it to you if you pay the shipping.

If you've still got it, I'll take it. We are using our spare since the other one got flambe'd when the STL mast took a lightning hit.
 
Sure... PM me your address and then you can just paypal me the actual shipping cost.

I'm never gonna use it, so I would rather help another. I've had lots of folks do things like that for me, so I try to pay it forward.
 
Has anyone had further success or failure with this? I am looking at one bax that works fine and I have no idea why. Been trying to get another going. Same hardware. Simian worked a couple days but now has an issue where it sometimes plays a file other than the one displayed. Wavecart crashes after playing a few seconds of the first file you try.
 
Go back on up into this thread to the entry about 32 bit virtualization. Understand its available as a free download from Microsoft.

We'll find out how well this works in a couple of days. Got a refurb computer with 64 bit Windows 7, need to put Simian production mode on it. Also discovered that even though it was sold with having a PCI slot it doesn't, so need to get a PCI-e Audio Science card.

Just wait until everything comes with Windows 8, which, of course, will be entirely contrary to anything anyone is used to.
 
We did get Simian to work in a second win7/64 box. Wavecart would not, but does seem to be happy inside the Virtual XP mode. Have not tried any GPIO. I would not trust this in an on-air machine.
 
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