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oldies76 said:
There is a surprising consensus on favorite songs. And those odd songs that a person may have some identifying link with may be liked by one person, and hated by thousands. That's why, on radio, we can not be ech person's taste-specific iPod as no two people have the same taste. However, we can find the songs that "everybody likes" and play those for everybody.
And they sure fooled you. They do those things at times when few if any are listening, but with the oldies geeks, they win big points. On the other hand, the average listener never tunes in in those hours, and thinks the station plays only the big hits they like.
Nor will those of the 95% of the audience that likes the consensus hits. The rest, always, have had to go elsewhere... even back to the 60's.
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Ok lemme ask one more thing before I go to bed with the Ipod and the 1976 airchecks on it; am I condemned to listen to "Sugar Pie" and "Happy Together" two times per day if I get my station to go to a Sixties/Seventies format?
Right now I hear the "It's Raining Men" song once per day out of three hours/day of listening. The same goes for "Tainted Love", "Mony Mony" (Billy Idol's cover) and stuff between 1977 and 1981 (worst period of music until 1990). I'd bet the rotation doesn't arise from a survey issue but from an incompetence issue.
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Right now I hear the "It's Raining Men" song once per day out of three hours/day of listening. The same goes for "Tainted Love", "Mony Mony" (Billy Idol's cover) and stuff between 1977 and 1981 (worst period of music until 1990). I'd bet the rotation doesn't arise from a survey issue but from an incompetence issue.
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kturnerga said:
If you are in a larger market, you are not going to get a station to play much 60's music, as it only attracts people outside the sales demos... the ages advertisers want.
If you listen 20 hours a week to one station, you are one of few. The average is around 6 to 8 hours, not 20. The average listener hears the same sone once every several weeks.
I'm not fooled at all....not at all.
Why would a station then air programming, if ONLY so-called "oldies geeks" tuned in?? If there is no demand for specialty segments, then why would a station air them? I'm not saying 99% of NYC tunes in, but it has to be a rather sizable audience to make it worthwhile.
Where are you hearing "It's Raining Men" so much? That one wasn't even that big of a hit back in the day! It never even made the 40! I don't think I've heard it on the air since its (brief!) heyday! If someone is playing it that much, they are using some of that "revisionist history" that I have complained about on here before! ;D (It may have been a bigger R&B or club hit; I don't know.)kturnerga said:
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The "It's Raining Men" song starts off with one woman saying, "Hi" and another woman saying, "Hi." The first woman says so and so and says, "We've Got News For You". Darnit I wish I had one of those memories.
I may have gone crazy with my figure on how much I listen to the station. It's actually the six or seven hours per week. I am thirty minutes to work and ten minutes to lunch and ten back then thirty or forty-five back home (if I go to a nearby town for goodies). That makes it nine hours. Of course in that time you must shave off the periods that I use an MP3 player or get disgusted with the slender playlist the ClearChannel A/C station feeds me.
My bad.
I may have gone crazy with my figure on how much I listen to the station. It's actually the six or seven hours per week. I am thirty minutes to work and ten minutes to lunch and ten back then thirty or forty-five back home (if I go to a nearby town for goodies). That makes it nine hours. Of course in that time you must shave off the periods that I use an MP3 player or get disgusted with the slender playlist the ClearChannel A/C station feeds me.
My bad.
Even if I wanted a "walnut and apple salad" (Waldorf), McD's is maybe the lasssst place I'd go 
On the Eastern Shore of MD, DE and VA, Mc offers a crabcake sandwich. And as a stockholder, and father of a McEmployee, I can tell you that burgers, beverage and fries is much less than half of all sales. Mc is the world's #1 server of chicken, as well as dairy. And believe it or not, their salads are pretty good...as good as you'll ever get in a 90 second drive-thru anyway.
And don't bait Mr.Ed. He'll hook you instead and turn ya into a Filet-O-Fish! Remember fellas, a helicopter does not fly...on paper. Which in Dave's world of books and numbers and statistics means, you hafta add two fixed wings to it to get in the air. Sometimes reality is just, well, different from the "facts".
And don't bait Mr.Ed. He'll hook you instead and turn ya into a Filet-O-Fish! Remember fellas, a helicopter does not fly...on paper. Which in Dave's world of books and numbers and statistics means, you hafta add two fixed wings to it to get in the air. Sometimes reality is just, well, different from the "facts".
not casting dispersions at all..but micky d's sells more chicken than kfc ? as a a stockholder maybe you can dispense a few facts..i would tend to think mcdonalds is succesful due to them being in the right locations and being able to throw it out the drive thru so fast..not because of the food quality..i shamefully aknowledge going thru there a few times a week simply because i do not have time to go to a sit down restaurant and eat what i'd rather have. there breakfast is more tasty than the rest of the menu to me....the biggest thing is no matter where you go..a big mac is the same in new york as it is in albeqerque..not sure of your location..but if you have any pull with the menu..tell them to offer real bacon on the egg mcmuffin...here in the south we love our bacon..much rather have it than the canadian bacon but in the big picture you can't argue with a successful concept..i wonder if ray crock would have envisioned what macdonlds would ultimately become..and not sold it when he did ? ???
as a a stockholder maybe you can dispense a few facts..i would tend to think mcdonalds is succesful due to them being in the right locations and being able to throw it out the drive thru so fast..not because of the food quality..i shamefully aknowledge going thru there a few times a week simply because i do not have time to go to a sit down restaurant and eat what i'd rather have. there breakfast is more tasty than the rest of the menu to me....the biggest thing is no matter where you go..a big mac is the same in new york as it is in albeqerque..not sure of your location..but if you have any pull with the menu..tell them to offer real bacon on the egg mcmuffin...here in the south we love our bacon..much rather have it than the canadian bacon but in the big picture you can't argue with a successful concept..i wonder if ray crock would have envisioned what macdonlds would ultimately become..and not sold it when he did ? ???
amfmsw said:
Yes it does. The wings rotate.
oldies76 said:
The rotors ARE wings.
"The rotating wings of a helicopter are shaped just like the airfoils of an airplane wing, but generally the wings on a helicopter's rotor are narrow and thin because they must spin so quickly. The helicopter's rotating wing assembly is normally called the main rotor"
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If I had to say anyone did fast food breakfast better than anyone else I would say Hardee's. A bunch of franchisees went belly up if I remember. One in Middle Georgia did for sure. But the company stores kept going and though their afternoon offerings aren't much it's the coffee and biscuits which keep them afloat.
If they would keep the biscuits and convert the Hardees up north to Burger Chefs (the Hardees chain owns the name) they would do better. In fact they should almost totally replicate the old Burger Chef items. One time Hardee's brought back the Big Shef but it was said to be not the same as the old Burger Chef sandwich.
It kills me to see corporates give customers the finger- and when the corporates get killed then nobody has anything.
If they would keep the biscuits and convert the Hardees up north to Burger Chefs (the Hardees chain owns the name) they would do better. In fact they should almost totally replicate the old Burger Chef items. One time Hardee's brought back the Big Shef but it was said to be not the same as the old Burger Chef sandwich.
It kills me to see corporates give customers the finger- and when the corporates get killed then nobody has anything.
I vaguely remember Burger Chef. I had no idea they were national. There was one near me about 40 years ago. I thought the Big Chef was awful, sort of a burger version of Chucky Cheese because of the sauce. The Super Chef was much better. I never heard what happened to them. They just disappeared one day. Back on topic, just how many people would they turn off if they played a song that was stylisticly similar to a song that everybody knows AND was still a big hit at the time? I'm sure there are many examples but let's just say for a moment that "I Think We're Alone Now" still tests well. Is "Mirage" different enough that people would immediately tune out in droves? We are, after all, talking about mature adults. You would think they'd have a little patience.
semoochie said:
Burger Chef became Hardees. Some Hardees restaurants still offer Big Chefs on a limited time basis.
And back on topic: You can play a song like "Mirage", but it's all in the set up. "Mirage" is not a song that would instantly recognizable to everyone in the audience. But, let's say you're doing a "Class of '67" weekend. Played between 2 recognizable, well tested hits, you could intro it by saying, "As the Class Of '67 put on their high school caps and gowns, this song hit the Top 10. It's Tommy James and Shondells with "Mirage" on (station)."
"Mirage" is just not recognizable enough to play on an all-time basis.
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