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Slight Change To WBZ Station ID

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Laurence Glavin

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I noticed this afternoon (Friday) that there was a slight change to WBZ-AM's station ID...or to be more precise, just BEFORE it. Just seconds before the usually pre-recordrd legal ID "WBZ, Boston", the newsman said "this is WBZ and WBZ-HD". (Chances are that when Bob McMahon is on-duty, he will pause briefly before saying this.) I guess this means that as of tonight, WBZ's IBOC will be on full-time.
 
I don't hear WTIC-AM 1080 of Hartford ID'ing that way yet. Maybe because they only have their IBOC crap on during the day? As for Bob McMahon, why so harsh on the way he pronounces a word? I'd rather hear that than the dreaded Boston accent.
 
Why are CBS stations suddenly thinking they can stick "HD" in between the calls and city of license? I don't think the FCC has told them to do that. WTIC just IDed that way during the Red Sox broadcast just now at 7 PM.
 
jlehmann said:
Why are CBS stations suddenly thinking they can stick "HD" in between the calls and city of license?
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In this day and age of pirate broadcasters operating with impunity.....do you think the FCC cares about that?

They didn't care in the past....the don't care about it now.
 
This is the first night that the FCC now allows AM stations to broadcast in HD -- at night.
 
WBZ isn't doing it yet though, they shut it off at 7. Most of the New York stations are though, the band is full of hash...
 
Top if the hour "Legal ID" for WZLX at 0800 Saturday also had a "WZLX HD 1 Boston" ID after the ID for the FM.

Must be something going on across the Boston cluster.
 
Neggy said:
Top if the hour "Legal ID" for WZLX at 0800 Saturday also had a "WZLX HD 1 Boston" ID after the ID for the FM.

Must be something going on across the Boston cluster.
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Same thing this morning on WBMX.
 
jlehmann said:
Why are CBS stations suddenly thinking they can stick "HD" in between the calls and city of license? I don't think the FCC has told them to do that. WTIC just IDed that way during the Red Sox broadcast just now at 7 PM.
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It's not just in Boston. All day yesterday on WCBS-FM/New York, the top of the hour jingle ran as usual, but just between WCBS-FM and New York, there was a little voice-over drop-in that said "HD1." Not only does it seem unnecessary, it's a little annoying due to its placement in the jingle.
 
jlehmann said:
That's really crazy about CBS-FM... What is CBS Radio thinking?
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It wouldn't be that bad if they didn't use a jingle (or used one that allowed for such a drop-in), but the way HD1 is said is drawn out. H-D-1 covers up some of most of the M in WCBS-FM in the jingle. I'll have to try and catch Fresh and K-Rock. Just missed Fresh this hour. They bury their TOH in a commercial set at 10 of the hour.
 
Reminds some of the old WBZ ID: "WBZ Radio Boston; WBZA Springfield."
 
wmgcbs said:
jlehmann said:
That's really crazy about CBS-FM... What is CBS Radio thinking?
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It wouldn't be that bad if they didn't use a jingle (or used one that allowed for such a drop-in), but the way HD1 is said is drawn out. H-D-1 covers up some of most of the M in WCBS-FM in the jingle. I'll have to try and catch Fresh and K-Rock. Just missed Fresh this hour. They bury their TOH in a commercial set at 10 of the hour.
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If they really feel the need to do that, they should just bury the "WCBS-FM HD1 New York" ID in commercials, and leave the jingle at the TOH alone.
 
The FCC hasn't updated any rules about station ID's since HD came on the scene....it remains Station/COL.

No one had to aknowledge HD at all (per the FCC rules).
 
That is not correct. The ID rules did indeed change as part of the same rulemaking that authorized nighttime AM HD.
 
Scott I figured that was the case but I have not kept up with the HD rules.

We know WBZ is doing the same programming on the IBOC as the AM, and I am assuming that WZLX is simulcasting the FM on HD1. Remember the thread a while back about ZLX having sent out a bunch of their library to be remastered for HD?

Hey Racoon have you heard a legal TOH ID for ZLX HD2? I am assuming it is just " WZLX HD2 Boston"
 
I know this would be legal "WBZ Boston WBZ HD Boston "

here is some of the FCC techno jargon on the tyopic

Needs and Uses: On May 31, 2007, the Commission released the Second
Report and Order, Digital Audio Broadcasting (DAB) Systems and Their
Impact on the Terrestrial Radio Broadcast Service (``Second Order''),
FCC 07-33, MM Docket 99-325. Provisions of the Second Order require
station identification requirements for Digital Audio Broadcasting
(DAB) stations to facilitate public participation in the regulatory
process. Both AM and FM stations with DAB operations will be required
to make station identification announcements at the beginning and end
of each time of operation, as well as hourly, for each programming
stream.
47 CFR 73.1201(a) requires television broadcast licensees to make
broadcast station identification announcements at the beginning and
ending of each time of operation, and hourly, as close to the hour as
feasible, at a natural break in program offerings. Television and Class
A television broadcast stations may make these announcements visually
or aurally.
47 CFR 73.1201(b)(1) requires that official station identification
shall consist of the station's call letters immediately followed by the
community or communities specified in its license as the station's
location; Provided that the name of the licensee, the station's
frequency, the station's channel number, as stated on the station's
license, and/or the station's network affiliation may be inserted
between the call letters and station location. DTV stations, or DAB
stations, choosing to include the station's channel number in the
station identification must use the station's major channel number and
may distinguish multicast program streams. For example, a DTV station
with major channel number 26 may use 26.1 to identify an HDTV program
service and 26.2 to identify an SDTV program service. A radio station
operating in DAB hybrid mode or extended hybrid mode shall identify its
digital signal, including any free multicast audio programming streams,
in a manner that appropriately alerts its audience to the fact that it
is listening to a digital audio broadcast. No other insertion between
the station's call letters and the community or communities specified
in its license is permissible.
 
Laurence Glavin said:
.....Just seconds before the usually pre-recordrd legal ID "WBZ, Boston", the newsman said "this is WBZ and WBZ-HD". (Chances are that when Bob McMahon is on-duty, he will pause briefly before saying this.) I guess this means that as of tonight, WBZ's IBOC will be on full-time.
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Ah, that would be me!
 
Scott Fybush said:
That is not correct. The ID rules did indeed change as part of the same rulemaking that authorized nighttime AM HD.
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Can you please cite the reference?

Is there a URL forthe new ruling?

I was under the impression that they hadn't addressed HD ID's yet.
 
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