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Smooth Jazz 106.5 Gone

kirkiefan said:
rpccomputers said:
Do we really have this many hillbillies that we need ANOTHER country station?

Unfortunately yes gang! Most of them laid off and scrambling for some sort of income if they are indigenous enough to go into buisiness by going "junking"' along the city streets for discarded appliances or such...if not selling their souls to Cashland and the like.

Wow.

Chew on these facts:

I'm a country fan. As is my wife. I'm 45. She's 40. Both MBA.

Our combined annual income (post taxes) is well into six figures.

Our 4 bed / 3 bath 2 story, built in 1998, was appraised at $250,000 in 2008. We'll have it paid off by 2013.

Finished basement with surround sound HD and Blu-ray on a 65" Panasonic Plasma.

Two SUVs. One Honda. One Subaru. Loaded. Oldest from 2006. Paid cash for both.

Vacation home on Hilton Head Island. Now, a very profitable rental. Later, we'll retire there before we hit age 60.

I'd invite you by to check for yourself. But, obviously, you both are far too busy painting with that wide, and all so very mistaken brush.

And, lest I forget...here's to Keith Mitchell!
 
BillBraskyIsADJ said:
kirkiefan said:
rpccomputers said:
Do we really have this many hillbillies that we need ANOTHER country station?

Unfortunately yes gang! Most of them laid off and scrambling for some sort of income if they are indigenous enough to go into buisiness by going "junking"' along the city streets for discarded appliances or such...if not selling their souls to Cashland and the like.

Wow.

Chew on these facts:

I'm a country fan. As is my wife. I'm 45. She's 40. Both MBA.

Our combined annual income (post taxes) is well into six figures.

Our 4 bed / 3 bath 2 story, built in 1998, was appraised at $250,000 in 2008. We'll have it paid off by 2013.

Finished basement with surround sound HD and Blu-ray on a 65" Panasonic Plasma.

Two SUVs. One Honda. One Subaru. Loaded. Oldest from 2006. Paid cash for both.

Vacation home on Hilton Head Island. Now, a very profitable rental. Later, we'll retire there before we hit age 60.

I'd invite you by to check for yourself. But, obviously, you both are far too busy painting with that wide, and all so very mistaken brush.

And, lest I forget...here's to Keith Mitchell!


That is very nice, I am happy for you with what all you have...

I am not trying to start a rant or rave here... I am just stating the facts... Dayton is a market already saturated with country on 3 other stations, and in the upper miami valley there are 4 spots on the dial with country.

Clear Channel would have been smart to go with CHR/Top40, Oldies, or Rhythmic Oldies.
 
rpccomputers said:
I am not trying to start a rant or rave here... I am just stating the facts...

The elitist tone of your post had nothing to do with facts, and everything to do with a condescending attempt to marginalize the country audience. Still, I do thank you for one thing. I now know of one small Piqua business that I will no longer work with.
 
It's Smooth Jazz Sunday on Lite 99.9, as the format segues to Lite 99.9's main signal for Sundays. They backed the American top 40 rerun to 7-10am and went to "Smooth Jazz Sunday" at 10, whcih eliminates "The 70s with Steve Goddard".

I listened a little to "106-5 The Bull", a male doing geneic liners and a female jock doing quick outros, mentioning someone's tour schedules, etc. Unlike satelite formats, there isn't a liner in the on-air jock's voice. I didn't hear the same thing on WIMT, was wondering if they'd be using the same thing.
 
BillBraskyIsADJ said:
rpccomputers said:
I am not trying to start a rant or rave here... I am just stating the facts...

The elitist tone of your post had nothing to do with facts, and everything to do with a condescending attempt to marginalize the country audience. Still, I do thank you for one thing. I now know of one small Piqua business that I will no longer work with.

Sorry if I offended you, and I am not trying to sound like an elitist at all... Sorry if you took it wrong.
 
lovejamminoldies said:
K99.1 murders all of these country stations. BTW, simulcasting 945 would've been nice but satellite controls 945 now - I guess some CHR is better than none.

and this murdering happens because nobody has been willing to put the time, effort and $$ into really making a go of it against K.....and there's NO WAY these guys will be any different. In fact, they're doing almost everything opposite that you would need to do to actually compete with K. Yep, radio sure is fun these days.
 
marketweis said:
lovejamminoldies said:
K99.1 murders all of these country stations. BTW, simulcasting 945 would've been nice but satellite controls 945 now - I guess some CHR is better than none.

and this murdering happens because nobody has been willing to put the time, effort and $$ into really making a go of it against K.....and there's NO WAY these guys will be any different. In fact, they're doing almost everything opposite that you would need to do to actually compete with K. Yep, radio sure is fun these days.

You are exactly right.
 
This is NOT an attack on Country radio, just simply saying that Dayton is OVERSATURATED with Country stations. Clark and Champaign counties have Kiss Country, and the rest of Dayton has the heritage K-99.1. The northern Miami Valley has Kicks 96 and The Tiger. No one really asked for a THIRD Country signal in Dayton, let alone another in the Northern Miami Valley. There are several other format gaps that could've been filled, a full-blown CHR/Pop on a big signal would've been nice. Remember, Buckeye Country 106.5(WBKI) was a flop, so was Jammin 106.5(WDJO). I do remember that BC and Jammin' never did above a 1 share.
 
I think 106.5 was part of that Aloha Trust. But if they keep it it will use voice-tracked jocks from a national network. There won't be any money put into it whether they sell it or not. Smooth Jazz was so neglected it had to go sometime. It was an excruciating listen sometimes. I'm surprised it took so long but maybe they were waiting on the national network.
 
alans613 said:
This is NOT an attack on Country radio, just simply saying that Dayton is OVERSATURATED with Country stations. Clark and Champaign counties have Kiss Country, and the rest of Dayton has the heritage K-99.1. The northern Miami Valley has Kicks 96 and The Tiger. No one really asked for a THIRD Country signal in Dayton, let alone another in the Northern Miami Valley. There are several other format gaps that could've been filled, a full-blown CHR/Pop on a big signal would've been nice. Remember, Buckeye Country 106.5(WBKI) was a flop, so was Jammin 106.5(WDJO). I do remember that BC and Jammin' never did above a 1 share.

AMEN!
 
106.5 WDSJ Has a huge 479ft stick with 50,000 watts... Why waste 50,000 watts at almost 500ft on a format this area has too much of... come on... 479ft with 50,000 watts, thats enough to reach to Cincy and all the way up to Lima. AND in no way can WDSJ compete with WHKO-K99.1FM... they have the biggest stick in the area that covers all the way into kentucky.
 
That signal can never be a player in Dayton; it's got a booming signal into Celina (about an hour and a half drive) and the tower is even north of Greenville. I'm not sure what the best option for that stick is (I ncan still see EMF grabbing it). Assuming someone buys 94-5 and 106-5 as a combo..then I'm still not sure.
 
gr8oldies said:
That signal can never be a player in Dayton; it's got a booming signal into Celina (about an hour and a half drive) and the tower is even north of Greenville. I'm not sure what the best option for that stick is (I ncan still see EMF grabbing it). Assuming someone buys 94-5 and 106-5 as a combo..then I'm still not sure.


If EMF had the cash they could buy both 94.5 and 106.5 and put Air1 on one of the stations (Air1's closest stations full power stations to Dayton area right now are a station in cinci 90.1 and South Vienna at 88.3)
 
No doubt they have the cash. I was surprised they didn't put Air One on 89.5. They could keep 96-9 KLove, 94-5 Air One and Greenville K-Love.
 
gr8oldies said:
No doubt they have the cash. I was surprised they didn't put Air One on 89.5. They could keep 96-9 KLove, 94-5 Air One and Greenville K-Love.

KLove was likely chosen for 89.5 due to its city grade signal over Dayton (while they do share time with the school signal)..

96.9's 3kw signal does not put that great of coverage into Dayton though they do have a CP to go to 6kw.

If EMF could/would buy these stations..

I could see 96.9 and 89.5 go Air 1 and KLove go 106.5/94.5....looking at the signal maps of 106.5/94.5. they would make a great KLove simlucast..

(EMF could even then recoup some costs by selling off some of their translators to lower powered stations or AM's that want FM coverage.)
 
alans613 said:
This is NOT an attack on Country radio, just simply saying that Dayton is OVERSATURATED with Country stations. Clark and Champaign counties have Kiss Country, and the rest of Dayton has the heritage K-99.1. The northern Miami Valley has Kicks 96 and The Tiger. No one really asked for a THIRD Country signal in Dayton, let alone another in the Northern Miami Valley. There are several other format gaps that could've been filled, a full-blown CHR/Pop on a big signal would've been nice. Remember, Buckeye Country 106.5(WBKI) was a flop, so was Jammin 106.5(WDJO). I do remember that BC and Jammin' never did above a 1 share.

CHR/Top40 would be very nice on a big signal up here... and you are 100% right... this is in no way an attack on country music, instead I was simply speaking my mind. ;D
 
this is in no way an attack on country music, instead I was simply speaking my mind. ;D




I'm pretty sure the offense was the term "hillbilly" to describe country music fans, not the attack on country music. I'm also pretty sure he'll still never do business with you. Just keep speaking your mind, dude.
 
If 94.5 is sold and dumps CHR/Pop in the process, someone else in the Dayton market would almost have to pick up the format. It's shocking that in this day in age where NYC and LAX(Among other cities)have TWO CHRs that Dayton may end up with ZERO. :'(
 
In that case Hot 102.9 would probably become the CHR..they would be by default anyway. I don't see anyone else going that direction.
 
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