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So, when does 94 'YSP flip to Top 40?
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Onyx
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Mike said:well the ratings have come out
do you think cbs is going to give WYSP until the end of the summer ?
what are the ratings? i only see the numbers when somebody posts a link or they're in the paper.
myke25 said:Up_N_Down_The_Dial said:I believe NYC has 2 CHRs... Z100 and KTU... I know that KTU is more dance, but the audience is pretty close (I believe)...
NYC's 92.3 NOW fm and Z-100 are the competing CHR's. KTU's audience is 25-54 female. I wouldn't even consider them dance since it's more classics and the crap that their sister station, z-100 beat to death before tossing it's limp, lifeless record to KTU expecting some kinda revival.
KTU is running a rhythmic AC format similar to what WISX 106.1 is running in Philly. The jock presentation is a bit more CHR than WISX, but the music mix is mostly not currents AFAIK.
WKTU and WHTZ don't directly compete because Clear Channel owns them both.
Onyx said:Mike said:well the ratings have come out
do you think cbs is going to give WYSP until the end of the summer ?
what are the ratings? i only see the numbers when somebody posts a link or they're in the paper.
Ratings are always available here at RadioInfo:
http://www.radio-info.com/markets
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Onyx
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Thanks, aindik. I suppose I should learn to read the navigation bar atop the web page I'm looking at. You have taught me how to fish.
So, holding steady at 2.3, eh? It would seem that YSP has found the bottom for a station with its significant signal strength. With the consistent grouping of MGK, RFF, and MMR in the low 4's, you'd think they could at least be competitive by just ripping off those tired old rock formats, yet they have found a way to distinguish themselves for the worse. Wow.
So, holding steady at 2.3, eh? It would seem that YSP has found the bottom for a station with its significant signal strength. With the consistent grouping of MGK, RFF, and MMR in the low 4's, you'd think they could at least be competitive by just ripping off those tired old rock formats, yet they have found a way to distinguish themselves for the worse. Wow.
This entire station was built up around the Kidd Chris show! Spike, his buddy at night and the gash that John Cook hired for afternoons. ALL hired to compliment Kidd in mornings.
When they fired Kidd and Cook they should have fired the rest, but they made a 12 year old the PD and waited to see if it would fly.
It didn't.
When they fired Kidd and Cook they should have fired the rest, but they made a 12 year old the PD and waited to see if it would fly.
It didn't.
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malawichild
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buffalotom said:Bubba could probably work in Philly, but he'd have to be local and he ain't leaving FLA... he owns that state.
The same way that Howard Stern needed to be "local"? He had a lousy run in Philadelphia, didn't he?
malawichild said:The same way that Howard Stern needed to be "local"? He had a lousy run in Philadelphia, didn't he?
Howard didn't need to be local, but not everyone is as good as he was. He's the exception that proves the rule.
The only time YSP's former PD EVER won was with Howard in mornings.Now he's just another loser playing moldy classic rock
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oasisrulz
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They keep missing the problem, fix the music and YSP would fly. RFF proves its music first, its always been music first and jocks back in the pack, but no-one admits to it, especially the pompous jocks on the air now. If the music stinks who cares how entertaining the jock is. If you listen to the top 400 this weekend you can tell they have the ability to improve the music but they won't, we all know its the same tired, worn out tunes over and over, but why, why would you play the same music over and over, open up the library and see what happens can't hurt. If they fix the music they would climb. [EDIT]
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Don't worry... you won't have to deal with it much longer.. they won't make it to August... so record while you can for old time sake... 94.1 in Philly won't be a rock station much longer.
Mike said:now remember
when WYSP flips i dont wanna read posts on how much your going to miss the station
Or how this city doesn't need another (insert non-rock format here) station...
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ChiaHead
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When YSP flips will they wack Bloom who created this disaster?
ChiaHead said:When YSP flips will they wack Bloom who created this disaster?
Everyone on the programming side (save some production folks) will go...
WYSP has been a massive failure because of the direction they decided to go in. Philadelphia does not need "The Rock You Grew Up With". There is a glut of classic rock (and classic rock leaning) stations all around the dial, and the last thing we needed was a station that sounded just like all the rest.
What is very much needed is a station that targets Male listeners under 50 - many in this group don't want the Led Zeppelin & AC/DC overkill present on both Greater Media rockers and 'YSP, and they're likely to be turned off by the safe, soft, repetitive approach of Radio 104.5 (which is less an Alternative station than the rebirth of Max 95.7). This group is either "putting up with" the available options, or they're listening to something other than FM radio.
CBS would be incredibly foolish not to try an Alternative (a real Alternative, one that isn't afraid to recognize the roots of the format, and plays more than just the big hits) or an edgier Active Rocker before they ditch rock completely for Top 40 or something else. 'YSP put up its best numbers as a somewhat edgier rocker in earlier this decade, but since then they've lost their way with the Free-FM programming (which was hit and miss) and now this massive turkey of a format they have now. With the options in the market being extremely stale and unwilling to evolve (Radio 104.5 sounds almost identical to the way they did on Day One, aside from mercifully dropping the Nickelback and Hinder), CBS can jump in and make a move or be content to reside in the cellar.
What is very much needed is a station that targets Male listeners under 50 - many in this group don't want the Led Zeppelin & AC/DC overkill present on both Greater Media rockers and 'YSP, and they're likely to be turned off by the safe, soft, repetitive approach of Radio 104.5 (which is less an Alternative station than the rebirth of Max 95.7). This group is either "putting up with" the available options, or they're listening to something other than FM radio.
CBS would be incredibly foolish not to try an Alternative (a real Alternative, one that isn't afraid to recognize the roots of the format, and plays more than just the big hits) or an edgier Active Rocker before they ditch rock completely for Top 40 or something else. 'YSP put up its best numbers as a somewhat edgier rocker in earlier this decade, but since then they've lost their way with the Free-FM programming (which was hit and miss) and now this massive turkey of a format they have now. With the options in the market being extremely stale and unwilling to evolve (Radio 104.5 sounds almost identical to the way they did on Day One, aside from mercifully dropping the Nickelback and Hinder), CBS can jump in and make a move or be content to reside in the cellar.
SoulCrusher said:'YSP put up its best numbers as a somewhat edgier rocker in earlier this decade
'YSP put up its best numbers when it had Howard Stern in mornings. It didn't particularly matter what was around him for his 18 years on YSP from 1987 through 2005. Classic Rock, Active Rock, John Debella in afternoons, Opie and Anthony in afternoons, Don & Mike in middays, Don & Mike in afternoons, Scott Farrell, The Greaseman. Didn't matter. The bottom didn't fall out until 2006.
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Onyx
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aindik said:SoulCrusher said:'YSP put up its best numbers as a somewhat edgier rocker in earlier this decade
'YSP put up its best numbers when it had Howard Stern in mornings. It didn't particularly matter what was around him for his 18 years on YSP from 1987 through 2005. Classic Rock, Active Rock, John Debella in afternoons, Opie and Anthony in afternoons, Don & Mike in middays, Don & Mike in afternoons, Scott Farrell, The Greaseman. Didn't matter. The bottom didn't fall out until 2006.
Yep. Stern had some mighty long coat tails, as seen by the demise of every single "show" that enjoyed success while he was on regular radio. While a bunch of listeners followed Stern to satellite, those who remained could no longer justify the leftover hacks by saying, "Oh, I get it. They're like Stern."
I hope your prediction is correct about this Monday. Some sort of change is long overdue, and it's exhausting to think that YSP is still lurching along with The 'duce and that outdated, overplayed live version of "Signs."
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