Something great and wonderful is coming to 106.3

[Australian Whine]

AND resources. Tease CC all you want about cheap and budget freezes and all but that's nothing compared to the operational M.O. of Lynn Martin's operations. If the best you can do is lead your day and your station with WMXL's rejects, that speaks volumes.

I've always heard bad things about Lynn. But I just don't see it. I've always found him to be a honorable man. A man of his word. Truthful. Straight forward. Can anyone give a few reasons as to why Lynn's rep should take such a beating?

 

[Boogie Man]

Say what you want about LM...I don't know him; however, Dale is a different story. Dale's been to the big leagues and back. He loves Lexington and knows that town...he also know WMXL, he created MIX 94.5 in the early 90s just after he left us here in NC...there has never been a station like MIX in NC and Dale was the man behind it. I don't know Lexington that well, but I'd say Dale's got a few tricks up his sleaves. Just listen and watch.

BM

 

[icycool7227]

Well I guess I should call them up and take a listen then before May 19th! Oh I know streaming's very expensive but the stations in my area just do not compare. No way no how.

 

[indydood]

Say what you want about LM...I don't know him; however, Dale is a different story. Dale's been to the big leagues and back. He loves Lexington and knows that town...he also know WMXL, he created MIX 94.5 in the early 90s just after he left us here in NC...there has never been a station like MIX in NC and Dale was the man behind it. I don't know Lexington that well, but I'd say Dale's got a few tricks up his sleaves. Just listen and watch.

BM

don't know him. never met him. don't know squat about him (other than dribs and drabs on message boards). somebody should probably ask why, if he's been to the *big leagues* why isn't he still there (?)
just askin'

 

[Ssummers]

Say what you want about LM...I don't know him; however, Dale is a different story. Dale's been to the big leagues and back. He loves Lexington and knows that town...he also know WMXL, he created MIX 94.5 in the early 90s just after he left us here in NC...there has never been a station like MIX in NC and Dale was the man behind it. I don't know Lexington that well, but I'd say Dale's got a few tricks up his sleaves. Just listen and watch.

BM

don't know him. never met him. don't know squat about him (other than dribs and drabs on message boards). somebody should probably ask why, if he's been to the *big leagues* why isn't he still there (?)
just askin'

Wow. For someone who has never met him and doesn't know him, you sure are negative about him and naive about radio. Like I said in a previous post on this thread, bad things happen to good people in this business all the time. Plus, a lot of PDs leave of their own volition. Why isn't Scott Shannon still at Z100? Or Q105, for that matter? Why isn' Kid Leo still at WMMS? Gerry DeFrancesco at KIIS? The days of a PD remaining at the same station for an entire career are long gone. Dale's a solid programmer and loyal to his employees, plus his name still shows up in perceptuals in Lexington. He'll do fine if given the tools to win. If not, then they'll he'll be shown the door just like anybody else. And for the record, change in ownership and change in direction have been the reasons he's been let go from majors in the past. If you're in radio, then you ought to know plenty of good people who lost their jobs because they weren't the right "fit" for the direction the station was going in. If you don't know anyone like that, then you haven't been in radio long enough. Hang on, tho. You will. Hope it's not you, me or anyone on this board. Just sayin'.

 

[indydood]

Say what you want about LM...I don't know him; however, Dale is a different story. Dale's been to the big leagues and back. He loves Lexington and knows that town...he also know WMXL, he created MIX 94.5 in the early 90s just after he left us here in NC...there has never been a station like MIX in NC and Dale was the man behind it. I don't know Lexington that well, but I'd say Dale's got a few tricks up his sleaves. Just listen and watch.

BM

don't know him. never met him. don't know squat about him (other than dribs and drabs on message boards). somebody should probably ask why, if he's been to the *big leagues* why isn't he still there (?)
just askin'

Wow. For someone who has never met him and doesn't know him, you sure are negative about him and naive about radio. Like I said in a previous post on this thread, bad things happen to good people in this business all the time. Plus, a lot of PDs leave of their own volition. Why isn't Scott Shannon still at Z100? Or Q105, for that matter? Why isn' Kid Leo still at WMMS? Gerry DeFrancesco at KIIS? The days of a PD remaining at the same station for an entire career are long gone. Dale's a solid programmer and loyal to his employees, plus his name still shows up in perceptuals in Lexington. He'll do fine if given the tools to win. If not, then they'll he'll be shown the door just like anybody else. And for the record, change in ownership and change in direction have been the reasons he's been let go from majors in the past. If you're in radio, then you ought to know plenty of good people who lost their jobs because they weren't the right "fit" for the direction the station was going in. If you don't know anyone like that, then you haven't been in radio long enough. Hang on, tho. You will. Hope it's not you, me or anyone on this board. Just sayin'.

he has a rep, dood. You hear things from one, even two people- I generally dismiss that as gossip. I'm basing this on a LOT OF PEOPLE who've worked with him through the years. i'm sure he's a nice person and all. this is strictly a talent and track record statement.

and let's not kid ourselves. this guy is NOT a Kid Leo or Gerry DeFrancesco. He may be a legend in his own mind but he isn't anywhere else

 

[Ssummers]

Say what you want about LM...I don't know him; however, Dale is a different story. Dale's been to the big leagues and back. He loves Lexington and knows that town...he also know WMXL, he created MIX 94.5 in the early 90s just after he left us here in NC...there has never been a station like MIX in NC and Dale was the man behind it. I don't know Lexington that well, but I'd say Dale's got a few tricks up his sleaves. Just listen and watch.

BM

don't know him. never met him. don't know squat about him (other than dribs and drabs on message boards). somebody should probably ask why, if he's been to the *big leagues* why isn't he still there (?)
just askin'

Wow. For someone who has never met him and doesn't know him, you sure are negative about him and naive about radio. Like I said in a previous post on this thread, bad things happen to good people in this business all the time. Plus, a lot of PDs leave of their own volition. Why isn't Scott Shannon still at Z100? Or Q105, for that matter? Why isn' Kid Leo still at WMMS? Gerry DeFrancesco at KIIS? The days of a PD remaining at the same station for an entire career are long gone. Dale's a solid programmer and loyal to his employees, plus his name still shows up in perceptuals in Lexington. He'll do fine if given the tools to win. If not, then they'll he'll be shown the door just like anybody else. And for the record, change in ownership and change in direction have been the reasons he's been let go from majors in the past. If you're in radio, then you ought to know plenty of good people who lost their jobs because they weren't the right "fit" for the direction the station was going in. If you don't know anyone like that, then you haven't been in radio long enough. Hang on, tho. You will. Hope it's not you, me or anyone on this board. Just sayin'.

he has a rep, dood. You hear things from one, even two people- I generally dismiss that as gossip. I'm basing this on a LOT OF PEOPLE who've worked with him through the years. i'm sure he's a nice person and all. this is strictly a talent and track record statement.

and let's not kid ourselves. this guy is NOT a Kid Leo or Gerry DeFrancesco. He may be a legend in his own mind but he isn't anywhere else

Lot's of people in radio have reps, dood. Some are well deserved, others aren't. I've worked with Dale and he's a fine programmer and a qualified talent. You read too much into my post, tho. I used Kid Leo and DeFrancesco and Shannon to illustrate the fact that quality programmers often change jobs for their own reasons, and I consider Dale a quality programmer. The only people I am aware of that talk shit about Dale either got fired by him because they didn't follow the program or they repeat things they heard from people that got fired by him. So, I'm curious, since you place so much stock in what other people say, why don't you go become a quality programmer instead of trying to drag down someone you admit to not even knowing. Waste of energy...dood.

 

[radiorob2.0]

If you had a choice to live in Lexington or Washington, which would you choose? Dale has proven himself as a programmer so he chooses to live in Lexington. The concern is his world will change under LM.

An above poster mentioned how Martin is a good guy. I've never met him in person but have experienced him from an observer point of view and as a competitor and I have very little to say good about either situation. I've mentioned my observations in an earlier post. As a competitor, circa late 80's, LM lowered the bar when it came to ethics and practices.

Unless LM has changed, Dale will need all the luck he can get.

 

[indydood]

Unless LM has changed, Dale will need all the luck he can get.

that is a very true statement (re: LM and how they operate)

 

[LEXDUDE]

Say what you want about LM...I don't know him; however, Dale is a different story. Dale's been to the big leagues and back. He loves Lexington and knows that town...he also know WMXL, he created MIX 94.5 in the early 90s just after he left us here in NC...there has never been a station like MIX in NC and Dale was the man behind it. I don't know Lexington that well, but I'd say Dale's got a few tricks up his sleaves. Just listen and watch.

BM

don't know him. never met him. don't know squat about him (other than dribs and drabs on message boards). somebody should probably ask why, if he's been to the *big leagues* why isn't he still there (?)
just askin'

Wow. For someone who has never met him and doesn't know him, you sure are negative about him and naive about radio. Like I said in a previous post on this thread, bad things happen to good people in this business all the time. Plus, a lot of PDs leave of their own volition. Why isn't Scott Shannon still at Z100? Or Q105, for that matter? Why isn' Kid Leo still at WMMS? Gerry DeFrancesco at KIIS? The days of a PD remaining at the same station for an entire career are long gone. Dale's a solid programmer and loyal to his employees, plus his name still shows up in perceptuals in Lexington. He'll do fine if given the tools to win. If not, then they'll he'll be shown the door just like anybody else. And for the record, change in ownership and change in direction have been the reasons he's been let go from majors in the past. If you're in radio, then you ought to know plenty of good people who lost their jobs because they weren't the right "fit" for the direction the station was going in. If you don't know anyone like that, then you haven't been in radio long enough. Hang on, tho. You will. Hope it's not you, me or anyone on this board. Just sayin'.

he has a rep, dood. You hear things from one, even two people- I generally dismiss that as gossip. I'm basing this on a LOT OF PEOPLE who've worked with him through the years. i'm sure he's a nice person and all. this is strictly a talent and track record statement.

and let's not kid ourselves. this guy is NOT a Kid Leo or Gerry DeFrancesco. He may be a legend in his own mind but he isn't anywhere else

Lot's of people in radio have reps, dood. Some are well deserved, others aren't. I've worked with Dale and he's a fine programmer and a qualified talent. You read too much into my post, tho. I used Kid Leo and DeFrancesco and Shannon to illustrate the fact that quality programmers often change jobs for their own reasons, and I consider Dale a quality programmer. The only people I am aware of that talk shit about Dale either got fired by him because they didn't follow the program or they repeat things they heard from people that got fired by him. So, I'm curious, since you place so much stock in what other people say, why don't you go become a quality programmer instead of trying to drag down someone you admit to not even knowing. Waste of energy...dood.

Dale is a talented guy. But he also has an ego, and as far as his programming goes, he was very lazy the entire time he spent at his latest run on WMXL. He basically mailed it in...and the ratings and solid proof of it...I've worked with Dale, and I think he;'s lost his passion for the industry...Just working for a paycheck...

 

[imissportlandor]

I was right.. 80's went bye-bye! 8)

Based on yesterday's MMR they are WLKT without the urban content (Hot AC) LM is trying to take the upper end of WLKT and the lower end of WMXL. Not sure Lexington is large enough for another station focused on the 25-34 demo.. CC took WMXL in the same direction for a number of years with little to no results; once again proof that operating on ego rather than strategy never wins.

IMHO the music on WCDA is off.. looking at Monday and comparing it to our AMT (March '08) and weekly callout they are playing a TON of burns, stiffs and music unfamiliar to the target demo. The hits are there but the categories/rotations are not correct, can also tell that the selector rules are not being used.. have found a number of mistakes that selector would catch if the rules were being used properly. No question it's better then the modern AC direction but an overall disappointing performance thus far.

A question for those of you in the listening area.. what does WCDA sound like.. Is it a compelling product? Was I right about the "heavy on station jingles" prediction.. and how does the morning show sound?

Thats my two, thoughts?

TR

 

[indydood]

I was right.. 80's went bye-bye! 8)

Based on yesterday's MMR they are WLKT without the urban content (Hot AC) LM is trying to take the upper end of WLKT and the lower end of WMXL. Not sure Lexington is large enough for another station focused on the 25-34 demo.. CC took WMXL in the same direction for a number of years with little to no results; once again proof that operating on ego rather than strategy never wins.

IMHO the music on WCDA is off.. looking at Monday and comparing it to our AMT (March '08) and weekly callout they are playing a TON of burns, stiffs and music unfamiliar to the target demo. The hits are there but the categories/rotations are not correct, can also tell that the selector rules are not being used.. have found a number of mistakes that selector would catch if the rules were being used properly. No question it's better then the modern AC direction but an overall disappointing performance thus far.

A question for those of you in the listening area.. what does WCDA sound like.. Is it a compelling product? Was I right about the "heavy on station jingles" prediction.. and how does the morning show sound?

I think the posting before yours answers the *why* from your comments. Old dog habits die hard.

And anybody who's *lost their passion for the industry* should do the rest of us a favor and find another vocation.

 

[Ssummers]

I was right.. 80's went bye-bye! 8)

Based on yesterday's MMR they are WLKT without the urban content (Hot AC) LM is trying to take the upper end of WLKT and the lower end of WMXL. Not sure Lexington is large enough for another station focused on the 25-34 demo.. CC took WMXL in the same direction for a number of years with little to no results; once again proof that operating on ego rather than strategy never wins.

IMHO the music on WCDA is off.. looking at Monday and comparing it to our AMT (March '08) and weekly callout they are playing a TON of burns, stiffs and music unfamiliar to the target demo. The hits are there but the categories/rotations are not correct, can also tell that the selector rules are not being used.. have found a number of mistakes that selector would catch if the rules were being used properly. No question it's better then the modern AC direction but an overall disappointing performance thus far.

A question for those of you in the listening area.. what does WCDA sound like.. Is it a compelling product? Was I right about the "heavy on station jingles" prediction.. and how does the morning show sound?

I think the posting before yours answers the *why* from your comments. Old dog habits die hard.

And anybody who's *lost their passion for the industry* should do the rest of us a favor and find another vocation.

Hmmm, what do you know about it? Everyone in radio has an ego...question is whether it is a healthy ego or an out of control ego. Dale's isn't out of control. As to whether he's lost his "passion" is beyond me and something only he knows. If you've worked for him and he "mailed it in", then you were deprived of a superior programmer's insight. If you didn't work with him and you "heard" that someone said he "mailed it in", then believe what you want to believe. Dale's a good guy, good programmer and good air talent. I guess my gripe here is that you admit to not even knowing him and you're throwing him under the bus based on what you've also admitted is the words of others. You've obviously got an axe to grind with Dale, that's all. Did he not return a call to you or hire you? Just wondering. I know you say it's nothing personal, but your posted comments betray your denials.

 

[indydood]

Hmmm, what do you know about it? Everyone in radio has an ego...question is whether it is a healthy ego or an out of control ego. Dale's isn't out of control. As to whether he's lost his "passion" is beyond me and something only he knows. If you've worked for him and he "mailed it in", then you were deprived of a superior programmer's insight. If you didn't work with him and you "heard" that someone said he "mailed it in", then believe what you want to believe. Dale's a good guy, good programmer and good air talent. I guess my gripe here is that you admit to not even knowing him and you're throwing him under the bus based on what you've also admitted is the words of others. You've obviously got an axe to grind with Dale, that's all. Did he not return a call to you or hire you? Just wondering. I know you say it's nothing personal, but your posted comments betray your denials.

Lighten up, Francis. I previously said *he's probably a nice guy and all* but here's a flash for you: I'm obviously NOT the only one with this opinion of the kind of radio he does. I base my comments on direct knowledge of radio colleagues (who've worked with him recently and in the past) and the recent performance of WMXL when he was there (and a very small but likely representative sample of his new station and show over the past couple of days). I have no axe to grind with him.

It's a message board-it's ok to share opinions about radio and radio people. There's nothing in the rules of conduct that says we all have to agree with each other.

 

[Ssummers]

Hmmm, what do you know about it? Everyone in radio has an ego...question is whether it is a healthy ego or an out of control ego. Dale's isn't out of control. As to whether he's lost his "passion" is beyond me and something only he knows. If you've worked for him and he "mailed it in", then you were deprived of a superior programmer's insight. If you didn't work with him and you "heard" that someone said he "mailed it in", then believe what you want to believe. Dale's a good guy, good programmer and good air talent. I guess my gripe here is that you admit to not even knowing him and you're throwing him under the bus based on what you've also admitted is the words of others. You've obviously got an axe to grind with Dale, that's all. Did he not return a call to you or hire you? Just wondering. I know you say it's nothing personal, but your posted comments betray your denials.

Lighten up, Francis. I previously said *he's probably a nice guy and all* but here's a flash for you: I'm obviously NOT the only one with this opinion of the kind of radio he does. I base my comments on direct knowledge of radio colleagues (who've worked with him recently and in the past) and the recent performance of WMXL when he was there (and a very small but likely representative sample of his new station and show over the past couple of days). I have no axe to grind with him.

It's a message board-it's ok to share opinions about radio and radio people. There's nothing in the rules of conduct that says we all have to agree with each other.

I'm as light as can be, my friend. Say what you will, but, like I said earlier, your comments betray your denials.

For instance:
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Quote from: radiohawkins on April 30, 2008, 10:05:36 am: In what city?

radioville: "The minor league's."

indydood: "agree. the station and the jock."
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Quote from: voicenky on April 30, 2008, 10:16:11 amale O'Brian, formerly of Mix 94.5 will do a live morning show...write it down, make a bet, it WILL happen!

indydood: "z-z-z-z-z-z-z if he was that great he'd still be at his old station"
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Quote from: jb_ky on May 12, 2008, 06:39:25 am: WCDA - 3,700 kw vs. WMXL - 85,000 kw Mix has the better advantage with signal.

indydood:"AND resources. Tease CC all you want about cheap and budget freezes and all but that's nothing compared to the operational M.O. of Lynn Martin's operations. If the best you can do is lead your day and your station with WMXL's rejects, that speaks volumes. "****************************************************************
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And, though I appreciate your condescending tone while pontificating on what this board is all about, your bias against Dale comes through loud and clear. Besides, who are these so-called colleagues of yours? Who are you, now that I think about it. I know plenty of people in that market, but none that hide behind witty screen names. Maybe if I knew who these "colleagues" were, I might come around to your way of thinking, then again, I know Dale and you (according to you) only know people that know Dale. I'm thinking you're one of those guys that didn't get a callback and got his feelings hurt. But that's ok. It should make you better.

 

[indydood]

I might come around to your way of thinking, then again, I know Dale and you (according to you) only know people that know Dale. I'm thinking you're one of those guys that didn't get a callback and got his feelings hurt. But that's ok. It should make you better.

I'm perfectly OK with us not agreeing on this. Anyone can have an informed opinion about others without having to have a vendetta or axe to grind with them (of course, I can't speak for you on that). ;D

 

[Ssummers]

I might come around to your way of thinking, then again, I know Dale and you (according to you) only know people that know Dale. I'm thinking you're one of those guys that didn't get a callback and got his feelings hurt. But that's ok. It should make you better.

I'm perfectly OK with us not agreeing on this. Anyone can have an informed opinion about others without having to have a vendetta or axe to grind with them (of course, I can't speak for you on that). ;D

No, you can't speak for me on anything, it's true, but I call 'em as I see 'em, and I see someone who's repeating back what he heard from others instead of seeing for himself. Of course we can disagree, I'm also cool with that. But you gotta know that everytime you decide to pass along another "colleague" generated "nugget" regarding Dale, if it's untrue or patently false or unwarranted, I'll be right here.

 

[Ana log]

FACT: Dale O'Brian has recharged his batteries and is ready to kick some Clear Channel tail.
FACT: He knows what makes that market tick (and knows how to get under his former employers skin) ;D
FACT: He will make his impression...let's all compare notes about this time next year. :-*

 

[kentuckymedia]

Actually, I hate to be the bad apple here, but what LM did was a very smart idea.

Adult CHR will crunch the upper end from WLKT. HOT will crunch the lower end of WLKT. Remember this, Clear Channel is extremely vulnerable right now. Anything is competition with them.

 

[indydood]

No, you can't speak for me on anything, it's true, but I call 'em as I see 'em, and I see someone who's repeating back what he heard from others instead of seeing for himself. Of course we can disagree, I'm also cool with that. But you gotta know that everytime you decide to pass along another "colleague" generated "nugget" regarding Dale, if it's untrue or patently false or unwarranted, I'll be right here.

Please understand this: I'm not getting my info from disgruntled board-ops or people he's fired...........and NONE OF IT IS PERSONAL. But there are several radio pros I know whose opinions I trust implicitly who've shared with me. And, just because you personally know him doesn't mean you have an unbiased perspective.