Springer Gone?

[fred flintstone]

Then who are the "true progressive Democrats?" The socialists?

I have mentioned some names before but apparently you missed them.  I would include (among the better known):
Eugene McCarthy
George McGovern
Paul Wellstone
Howard Dean
Dennis Kucinich

Apparently you have a very broad and fluid definition of "socialist," which includes anyone with whom you don't agree.

Whereas you, on the other hand, know better than most of the world.

As one of my professors said, "Not only can 50 million Frenchmen be wrong; they usually are."  To paraphrase Robert Heinlein (a libertarian), you can't determine truth by counting people's noses.  Maybe you should also read some Ayn Rand (another libertarian).

There are no stations in my city that carry liberal talk radio shows that draw significant ratings. And there are no progressive talk radio shows on the air at all.

Apparently you are now making a distinction between "liberals" and progressives.
As Baroosk pointed out, progressive talk radio is available online and via satellite radio and that is how a substantial portion of its audience listens.  Here's the audio link for Stephanie Miller - available 9am to 12noon Eastern.  Enjoy.

 

[Radio_Realist]

Apparently you are now making a distinction between "liberals" and progressives.

Are you saying that there is no difference between liberals and progressives? Are you saying that the two terms are synonyms? If the two terms are synonymous, and there is no distinction between them, then why adopt the new term "progressive" if it's just another word for "liberal"? Are the liberals ashamed to be called "liberal", and hence the new term?

 

[fred flintstone]

Apparently you are now making a distinction between "liberals" and progressives.

Are you saying that there is no difference between liberals and progressives? Are you saying that the two terms are synonyms? If the two terms are synonymous, and there is no distinction between them, then why adopt the new term "progressive" if it's just another word for "liberal"? Are the liberals ashamed to be called "liberal", and hence the new term?

It's been explained to you several times by various people. You either are unable to get it or you refuse to get it. Now, go attend a Lynn Swann rally where you may find people who enjoy that kind of discussion.

 

[Radio_Realist]

It's been explained to you several times by various people.

But never the same way twice.

 

[fred flintstone]

It's been explained to you several times by various people.

But never the same way twice.

If one way doesn't work, try a different approach.
Maybe you're more familiar with the kind of people who, if something doesn't work, do it even more.

Now it is becoming apparent you are being deliberately obtuse in your quest to generate "mischief."

Maybe you should explain why conservatives have taken to calling themselves "libertarians" and moderate (Northeastern or "Rockefeller" Republicans) call themselves "neo-conservatives." The only people in the GOP not ashamed of the name "conservative" are talk show hosts and the religious right (social conservatives).

 

[Radio_Realist]

Maybe you should explain why conservatives have taken to calling themselves "libertarians"

Conservatives do not call themselves libertarians. Libertarians call themselves libertarians.

moderate (Northeastern or "Rockefeller" Republicans) call themselves "neo-conservatives."

Beats me. I'm not a "Rockefeller" Republican. I always called them RINO's.

 

[fred flintstone]

Conservatives do not call themselves libertarians. Libertarians call themselves libertarians.

Wrong! Thank you for playing.

 

[Radio_Realist]

Wrong!

OK, name a bona-fide conservative radio talk show host or politician who holds an elective office who calls himself a libertarian.

 

[evnlee]

Wrong!

OK, name a bona-fide conservative radio talk show host or politician who holds an elective office who calls himself a libertarian.

while I disagree with FF, liberals are waaaay more ashamed of the term then conservatives. That's why they are changing thier label ( like compassionate conservative). There is no difference between 'progressive' and 'liberal', and anyone who thinks Kucinich is anything BUT liberal, well, c'mon. Get real.

NO converative calls themselves 'neo-cons'. That's a label the lefties give conservatives to make them ashamed. Just like conservatives call lefties 'liberals'.

However, Neal Boortz calls himself a libertarian ( although I have my doubts ).Check out boortz.com.

The former Governor Ventura also calls himself 'libertarian' even though he ran on Perot's Reform Party ticket. But that party imploded while he was in office, so in many interviews he claims to hold 'libertarian' views.

 

[dampier]

Once again we have long since left the domain of radio and entered the arena of pure politics, which is discussed at length in Off the Air on here.

 

[Scribbler]

Once again we have long since left the domain of radio and entered the arena of pure politics, which is discussed at length in Off the Air on here.

Getting back to the original topic of this thread....

Somebody on an Air America fan site said that he had contacted the Air America affiliate in Chicago and was told that they were trying to decide among Springer, Seder, and Miller for the slot currently occupied by Springer. Apparently AAR will continue to syndicate Springer, while plugging Seder into Springer's current spot on the main network feed (as of Sept. 18th).

 

[Radio_Realist]

"Once again we have long since left the domain of radio and entered the arena of pure politics,"

I must disagree. Discussing (or arguing) over whether any one particular political philosophy or party or political agenda is superior to another is "pure politics". But discussing the segmentation of the radio news/talk audience, and what labels and divisions are appropriate is as germane to discussing news/talk radio as discussing what demographic and lifestyle segments prefer country music over rock music is to discussing music radio.

As long as news/talk radio stations, talk show hosts, syndicators, and networks target audiences based on categorizations determined by political opinions held by auduience segments, then discussing that categorization is part and parcel of discussing news/talk radio. The two cannot be separated.

Now, if this discussion travels into discussing which political course would be better for the nation, then I would have to agree with you that it had drifted off-topic. But it hasn't, so it isn't.

 

[fred flintstone]

Somebody on an Air America fan site said that he had contacted the Air America affiliate in Chicago and was told that they were trying to decide among Springer, Seder, and Miller for the slot currently occupied by Springer. Apparently AAR will continue to syndicate Springer, while plugging Seder into Springer's current spot on the main network feed (as of Sept. 18th).

Interesting. Question is will Springer be syndicated by AAR or independently of AAR (as it was originally)?

The show is produced by (and occasionally at) Clear Channel's Cincinnati cluster and was first syndicated to maybe a half dozen other Clear Channel stations before AAR picked up the show. It apparently was never syndicated through Clear Channel's Premiere Radio (which syndicates Rush, Beck and others). And even though Springer was a Clear Channel product, many Clear Channel stations (among others) picked up Stephanie Miller (after bailing on Unfiltered).

Springer's track record in progressive talk radio is not anything to encourage AAR or Clear Channel to continue the show. If (or when) AAR drops Springer from the main network feed, he's got almost nothing left. The only pre-AAR Springer affiliates still taking the show (to the best of my recollection) are Cincinnati and Detroit.

 

[fred flintstone]

BASHAM UPDATE

Basham now competes live with Malloy/Lionel/Colmes, et al. No live overnight shows, unless your Jones station rep can convince you there are a lot of liberal truckers out there for Midnight Radio.

I was going to start a new thread for this, but I know how one of you hates that. :

All Access:

Basham Adds Daily Commentary Feature
Syndicated talker DOUG BASHAM adds a daily 60 second radio commentary, the appropriately-titled "60 SECONDS WITH DOUG BASHAM," available for free- no barter or cash- via Internet download. BASHAM's show is heard on KSAC-A/SACRAMENTO, KLAV-A/LAS VEGAS, and KRXA-A/MONTEREY and is syndicated by RADIOLINX. To get the show or commentaries, e-mail DOUG at [email protected] or call RADIOLINX at (480) 993-3150.

In response to an earlier query in this thread, it looks like Doug is still cleared live on only three stations (and Las Vegas, his home market, only clears two hours on delay). Apparently, Seattle did clear "Best of Basham" broadcasts on the weekend but no more. It would be nice if this one-minute commentary helped him get some traction but I'm not optimistic.

 

[herbiedradio]

Midnight Radio is definitely Not Liberal! even though Gary McNamara isn't as strident a conservative as Joe Kelley (now AM Drive at KRMG 740 (Cox) Tulsa).

Basham now competes live with Malloy/Lionel/Colmes, et al. No live overnight shows, unless your Jones station rep can convince you there are a lot of liberal truckers out there for Midnight Radio.

 

[ajhenderson]

"Midnight Radio is definitely Not Liberal! even though Gary McNamara isn't as strident a conservative as Joe Kelley (now AM Drive at KRMG 740 (Cox) Tulsa)."

I know, but I was pointing out that with Basham moved and Maron cancelled, the 1a-5a daypart remains unfilled for liberal talk, and that JRN reps could sell Midnight Radio, which airs in that slot, to stations already clearing their other shows, Miller and/or Schultz. I don't think Jones really cares if MRN fits a format if they can clear it (which, outside of giants WBAP, WJR, and a few flamethrowers, they or their predecessors never did too well at).