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Stephen Colbert Reveals He Declined Five-Year CBS Deal in 2023

TexasTom said:
I assume that you're referring to the replacement programming in the late-night slot, not CBS's overall schedule. In their overall schedule, they do have prime-time programs that get those sorts of numbers, and they have sports broadcasts that do more.

But for late night, I agree with you. My suspicion is that "Comics Unleashed" won't manage to get even half the audience that Colbert routinely got. But CBS knows that, which is why the deal with Byron Allen has Allen paying for the time slot instead of CBS paying for his shows.
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If the replacement show gets 1/5 the ratings, but at 1/8 the cost, CBS will take that as a win.
It's the basic MBA mindset. Particularly when an industry is declining.
 
Don CT said:
Ratings mean everything. It’s the only reason television exists.
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Nope, not here... Allen is paying for the show, ratings dont really matter
 
Don CT said:
The affiliates care if people dump out on the 11 pm news.
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why are people going to dump out on the 11pm news for a show that starts at 1135?

Theyll watch the news then tune out when its over.

I watched a few minutes of the show one day, and it was funny enough.. but less than 5 mins doesnt make a good sampling
 
AbrahamJSimpson said:
They certainly don't. But that's only part of the equation. They could simply tune out, as they say they do. But instead, to the earlier point, they're hell-bent on no one being able to say/hear contrary opinions on a mass-distribution platform. That's the terrifying issue.

Look, if the orange toddler wants to obsess over someone saying mean things about him, let's set aside the irony and say fine. It's not what we need a president to be focused on, but whatever. For this exercise, he can throw every tantrum he wants about jokes and criticism. But there is a gigantic red line between expressing frustration and exerting (extorting) control by way of getting someone canceled and the chilling effect that has, by design.

I don't want to hear Fox News. Great. I don't watch it (or its brethren). They want to keep kissing someone's tushy, go for it. I regret the impact that has on gullible audiences, but that is not something any government should have any leverage over (and again, yes, we know cable vs broadcast, so let's not be pedantic about a generalized comparison).
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As a news guy, i sample other media... especially when it comes to moderate or major stories as to how i handle them locally. i use fox, newsmax as a way to confirm a story is actually happening and get at the meat and potatoes. id be irresponsible if i didnt verify the bones of a story from someone on the other side of the aisle.

But i dont sample or watch the opinion stuff. why? I dont want to.... I simply dont turn it on or whatever.

The right has a history of complaining about what others are saying.. false news, indoctrination, etc... an agenda being shoved down our throat but then they go and do the same.

Do I like some of what the right says? When its flat out lies, yes. But I also hold firmly to free speech, because the minute yu take it away, youre setting up a slippery slope of it being taken away from me while also wondering who gets to decide.

Plus, i know what i and others like me do and we work for the truth, bias free reporting....... will eventually win out
 
I’m not sure of Byron Allen’s strategy to attract and keep viewers. This week Comics Unleashed has new episodes at 11:35 and repeat episodes at 12:05 AM. The show that follows at 12:37 Funny You Should Ask is all reruns. Who puts so many repeats during a show’s first airing in a new (and improved) timeslot?
 
I think we can be reasonably safe to state his model differs from many others. Will this be the time his cheap content factory model doesn’t work? Maybe. Maybe not. But right now, nothing in that slot is going to get much attention. Colbert’s departure and the acrimony leading up to it are still raw, and it’s an early holiday week. Over time it may start to settle into a new normal, but one week skewed by all that’s surrounded the slot isn’t really indicative of much.
 
AbrahamJSimpson said:
I think we can be reasonably safe to state his model differs from many others. Will this be the time his cheap content factory model doesn’t work? Maybe. Maybe not. But right now, nothing in that slot is going to get much attention. Colbert’s departure and the acrimony leading up to it are still raw, and it’s an early holiday week. Over time it may start to settle into a new normal, but one week skewed by all that’s surrounded the slot isn’t really indicative of much.
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Let’s see what ratings bump Kimmel and Fallon get before seeing how Allen does.
 
TheBigA said:
Veteran TV reporter Bill Carter says the white house played a role in Colbert's cancelation:

barrettmedia.com

Veteran Late Night Reporter Claims President Donald Trump “Personally Involved” in Stephen Colbert Cancelation

"Certainly the idea that he throws a man in the dumpster at the end of it indicates that he was personally involved."
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Once again, conservatives said once taxpayer money was removed from NPR, they could say whatever they want. There is no taxpayer money in CBS or late night TV. Why are conservatives so hell bent on getting rid of late night comedy shows? What is the threat?
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No one really is. Carter really provides no sourcing for his contention, only what amounts to his thoughts on the matter. CBS could've continued to bleed money for years with Colbert as far as most were concerned.
 
umfan said:
No one really is. Carter really provides no sourcing for his contention, only what amounts to his thoughts on the matter. CBS could've continued to bleed money for years with Colbert as far as most were concerned.
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I’ve seen reports that his show was profitable.
 
Don CT said:
I’ve seen reports that his show was profitable.
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Where? Im a fan and everything ive seen shows it was losing money.... and im not just talking right wing sources.....
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
Where? Im a fan and everything ive seen shows it was losing money.... and im not just talking right wing sources.....
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Nothing official just stuff I’ve seen posted. Not sure how much truth there is to it. It could be insider stuff but I don’t know if it’s been vetted.
 
umfan said:
No one really is. Carter really provides no sourcing for his contention, only what amounts to his thoughts on the matter. CBS could've continued to bleed money for years with Colbert as far as most were concerned.
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So you're saying that all the comments from the president and the FCC chairman didn't happen? That this was purely a financial decision?

Or are there new federal laws I don't know about that require commercial shows to be ratings successes and profitable?

What business is it of the government whether or not a TV show is profitable?
 
TheBigA said:
So you're saying that all the comments from the president and the FCC chairman didn't happen? That this was purely a financial decision?

Or are there new federal laws I don't know about that require commercial shows to be ratings successes and profitable?

What business is it of the government whether or not a TV show is profitable?
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No, I'm saying that the source cited offered zero support for its contentions. Further, CBS was not forced into this decision.

CBS made this decision of its own volition. The federal government did not cancel the show, CBS did as is their right as business managers to manage expenses responsibly. They obviously concluded that continuing the show was not a good use of capital.
 
TheBigA said:
The debut of Byran Allan underperformed other shows in the time period:

www.rawstory.com

Stephen Colbert's MAGA-coded replacement flops in debut: report

Stephen Colbert wrapped up "The Late Show" last week after alleged pressure from President Donald Trump on his parent network, but his replacement isn't exactly filling the gap, according to new reporting. The series finale of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert drew more than 6.7 million...
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How is Byron Allen MAGA coded?

Not a surprise it gets less ratings, but since he's covering all production costs, it means CBS is losing no money on this as compared to the large financial losses the content that previously aired in the slot generated. CBS may even make a few bucks.
 


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