Parttimer said:
I'm going to pin JAS's bad one on John Tesh. He is terrible. It's like he's reading the "women's page" on YahooNews, which I avoid like the plague.
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I'm going to pin JAS's bad one on John Tesh. He is terrible. It's like he's reading the "women's page" on YahooNews, which I avoid like the plague.
M
MsMusicRadio
Guest
Its much worse. WMTX in Tampa runs Tesh from 10-2 middays and then from 10PM overnights. This was once a fuctioning Hot AC station that was live and local 18 hours a day and competitive. Check the Tampa book to see how bad it is now. They can't even compete with a station running Delilah from 7PM to 5 AM.
The issue now is that they have retained too much of the old 60's stuff, particularly Motown and Philly Soul. I mentioned before an O'Jays to Springsteen segue. How do you eliminate the train wrecks? Quit trying to be BOB-FM. If you want to be DVE Lite then all the R&B stuff pretty much has to go. If you want to play the R&B then the rock product has to lean back to pop hits.[/sup]
I think the folks at 3ws management should be playing the pop hits. That's what they should've evolvd into...a pop station that features 70's songs. Maybe a few early 80 songs. They definitely need to be playing R&B. Who else beside WAMO plays R&B?
My question is how they're allowed to get away with being a WDVE Light. Doesn't DVE management care?
I think the folks at 3ws management should be playing the pop hits. That's what they should've evolvd into...a pop station that features 70's songs. Maybe a few early 80 songs. They definitely need to be playing R&B. Who else beside WAMO plays R&B?
My question is how they're allowed to get away with being a WDVE Light. Doesn't DVE management care?
That's a good question. The mantra inside the flashcube always was "Protect the Mothership"... in other words, never do anything that could substantially pull numbers from DVE.
I can think of a couple of possible explanations:
1) BOB-FM might have done really well in a perceptual study and they're trying to dilute that station's effect
2) Research came up with a hole for a classic hits or a rock A/C format and they're trying to straddle the line by keeping a big chunk of what they were, but doing enough of the new direction to pre-empt anyone from trying to fill that niche full time (especially the B).
I can think of a couple of possible explanations:
1) BOB-FM might have done really well in a perceptual study and they're trying to dilute that station's effect
2) Research came up with a hole for a classic hits or a rock A/C format and they're trying to straddle the line by keeping a big chunk of what they were, but doing enough of the new direction to pre-empt anyone from trying to fill that niche full time (especially the B).
corporateradiosucks said:I'm going to pin JAS's bad one on John Tesh. He is terrible. It's like he's reading the "women's page" on YahooNews, which I avoid like the plague.
And it sounds canned, because it is.
This is afternoon drive, for crying out loud. If they had to eliminate Mike McGann, they should have replaced him with another person, not selected clips from a satellite show. I suspect the audience hears this for exactly what it is.
C.
Parttimer said:The mantra inside the flashcube always was "Protect the Mothership"... in other words, never do anything that could substantially pull numbers from DVE.
BOB-FM might have done really well in a perceptual study and they're trying to dilute that station's effect.
Yes, and probably yes. 3WS, to my ears, sounds very much like the mixed-up classic hits version of Bob. And I'm certain they won't let it get too close to DVE. Thus, the Supremes songs remain.
C.
Seems like WDVE and 3WS have been separately branded long enough that there wouldn't be much sharing, even if they're both playing "Freebird." I always thought 3WS was designed to grab the people who listened to Atkins-era WTAE, where WDVE was geared toward to the people who were listening to, well, WDVE in those years. The morning shows are certain distinctly different -- the rowdy, frat house approach of WDVE isn't anything like the kind of show Jim Merkel does.
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MsMusicRadio
Guest
Tesh in prime time is like a store with a handpainted sign. You wonder how much longer.
cingram said:Heard on 3WS today (Saturday) at about 8:10 AM:
"The Boys of Summer" by the Ataris
(it's loud and it's from 2003, people)
into
"The Twist" by Chubby Checker.
Go ahead, tell me it was a mistake and they really meant to play Don Henley.
I actually checked the frequency in disbelief.
C.
Clarke,
I just checked yes.com and they sure did play the Ataris-Boys of Summer from 2003. What the heck was 3WS doing with an Ataris CD? lol.
WOW. A few months ago on a Saturday morning around 945am my wife and I drove up town to run a few erands. We put on 3WS and heard nothing but dead air, we clicked over to XM 60's on 6, but I kept checking...it wasn't until 1030am when the dead air stopped and the music came back on.Wrong music, dead air, no wonder I'm on Xm, or on KHB ;D (during music hours!) When 103.1 is moved I hope I can listen in Steubenville.
Todd said:cingram said:Heard on 3WS today (Saturday) at about 8:10 AM:
"The Boys of Summer" by the Ataris
(it's loud and it's from 2003, people)
into
"The Twist" by Chubby Checker.
Go ahead, tell me it was a mistake and they really meant to play Don Henley.
I actually checked the frequency in disbelief.
C.
Clarke,
I just checked yes.com and they sure did play the Ataris-Boys of Summer from 2003. What the heck was 3WS doing with an Ataris CD? lol.
That's what can happen when all the music for all the stations is on a common hard drive.
Boss Radio said:That's what can happen when all the music for all the stations is on a common hard drive.
Yes, but those songs are supposed to be restricted. You couldn't pull a song from 96.1 into the 94.5 playlist. The Prophet system wouldn't let you do that -- at least when I worked there.
Maybe someone made a mistake. Maybe someone was fooling around. Maybe someone believes playing the Ataris into Chubby Checker is a great segue. Who knows. It certainly caught me by surprise.
C.
Well according to Yes.com, yesterday they played Whitesnake's "Here I Go Again" at 4:18pm, sandwiched between Steeley Dan and Johnny Nash.
3WS seems to have dead air issues A LOT. We tend to listen to them in my office and usually once a day, dead air runs for anywhere from a few minutes to several minutes!
youngabe89 said:3WS seems to have dead air issues A LOT. We tend to listen to them in my office and usually once a day, dead air runs for anywhere from a few minutes to several minutes!
Not to beat a dead (air) horse, but:
A not-so-long time ago in a galaxy not that far away, back when they had Dave Mason tracking nights, 3WS had what I started to call their Nightly Three Minutes of Dead Air. For some reason the song would not play, there would be a three-minute gap (hello, Rosemary Woods!) and then Mason would back-announce the song that had just failed to play, as if nothing had gone wrong.
This didn't happen every evening, but it occurred often enough that I started taking notice of it.
Say whatever you will about 620 and 770, but the only time we really have dead air is when the power goes out at the studios.
C.
cingram said:Heard on 3WS today (Saturday) at about 8:10 AM:
"The Boys of Summer" by the Ataris
(it's loud and it's from 2003, people)
into
"The Twist" by Chubby Checker.
Go ahead, tell me it was a mistake and they really meant to play Don Henley.
I actually checked the frequency in disbelief.
C.
You have no idea how sorry I am that I missed this.
J
johnsummers
Guest
I believe the evolution of the Classic Hits format still has to involve 'pop' music of different styles and textures. R&B, pop/bubblegum, Rock-leaning songs, etc...This, of course, is open to interpretation. For example, do you consider "Glory Days" to be a rock song or a pop song. If you play Glory Days back to back with....oh, I don't know, say Light My Fire, it gives the station a decidedly rock feel, maybe not right for a 'mainstream Classic Hits station. A better choice might be to follow with something like "Love Grows....", for example. But, is that a psychographic train wreck?? Some say yes, some no. I'm not entirely sure. Another key element of Classic Hits radio has to be....here it comes.....are you ready for it?........FUN!! Here in DFW, with People Meter the law of the land, K*LUV has a 'soft oldies' competitor which is talking only between the songs and seging into music directly out of spots on purpose. Interesting. obviously, 'fun' is not a primary concern here. It seems to me, music irregularities aside, that 3WS is already People Meter friendy. I just offer that as a reason for their change of approach. That said, I think that a 'top 40' sounding Classic Hits station will win over the other kind every time, all other things being equal.
johnsummers said:Another key element of Classic Hits radio has to be....here it comes.....are you ready for it?........FUN!!
And 3WS has sucked every last bit of fun out of the station.
At KLUV the Amazing Mr. Cresswell keeps the tempo going and you all still exude the energy that made radio great. Wish we had you guys here in the Burgh. (Especially since you ARE Pittsburgh guys...).
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