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Super Bowl Commentaries: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

TheBigA said:
The program attracted the largest audience in history for something you call stupid. What does that say about the audience?
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I called the game stupid, not the sport or the fans attending or watching via the media. Technically it was a loser of a game but the fans didn't know that going in. My personal feeling is there is no event of any type worth the asking price of the SB but I will also acknowledge the fans are free to spend their money any way they wish. There have been way too many poor SB games for me to anticipate a 'game of the century'.
 
Why is a league championship game "stupid"? Because the NFL uses a single game to determine its champion instead of a series of games between the two teams, as MLB, NBA and NHL do? There've been plenty of "technical" stinkers in the World Series, Stanley Cup, and NBA Championship series, That doesn't make those concepts "stupid."
 
DavidEduardo said:
Is there anything you do like? "Snottsdale?" Give me a break. I lived, decades ago, in Scottsdale and loved the community and the people. Maybe Paradise Valley, but not Scottsdale.
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I've lived in The Valley most of my life and in multiple neighborhoods within the metro area and compared with other metro areas Scottsdale is indeed Snottsdale. Perhaps not in years past but definitely today. My parents owned a restaurant in Old Town Scottsdale in the years following WWII so I know it's history over the past 60+ years. PV people don't tend to blow their own horns.
 
landtuna said:
My personal feeling is there is no event of any type worth the asking price of the SB but I will also acknowledge the fans are free to spend their money any way they wish.
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The 123 million people who watched the Super Bowl on TV did so for free. It didn't cost them a dime. However, a lot of them used it as a social event. That's all this is. An organized event that can be used to invite friends over and socialize. Like Christmas or someone's birthday. Nothing wrong with that.
 
CTListener said:
Why is a league championship game "stupid"? Because the NFL uses a single game to determine its champion instead of a series of games between the two teams, as MLB, NBA and NHL do?
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I call the SB stupid because of the flotsam surrounding the final game but perhaps the various media should be the most criticized party. Along with snippets of the teams and players a significant amount of BS is pointed directly at events surrounding the game (see sports betting, parties, people not in any way associated with football and hangers-on of all types - crowd shots). Over the years the SB has become exactly what you state; an excuse for a party. Football is almost an afterthought.
 
landtuna said:
I call the SB stupid because of the flotsam surrounding the final game but perhaps the various media should be the most criticized party. Along with snippets of the teams and players a significant amount of BS is pointed directly at events surrounding the game (see sports betting, parties, people not in any way associated with football and hangers-on of all types - crowd shots). Over the years the SB has become exactly what you state; an excuse for a party. Football is almost an afterthought.
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None of that "flotsam" happens without a football game. The game is still the main event.
 
Do the hundred million people tune in for the pregame? Of course not. The vast majority watches the game, the centerpiece around which it is all built.

And here’s the wildest part that even a “I’m smarter than everyone who likes something popular” curmudgeon can get: people actually like things other than games and like the games. They can like the tailgating, the pregame content, the music, whatever happens to be at a given event.
 
AbrahamJSimpson said:
Do the hundred million stupid people tune in for the pregame? Of course not. The vast majority watches the game, the centerpiece around which it is all built.

And here’s the wildest part that even a “I’m smarter than everyone who likes something popular” curmudgeon can get: Stupid people actually like things other than games and like the games. They can like the tailgating, the pregame content, the music, whatever happens to be at a given event.
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Fixed that for you before tune could! :LOL:
 
TheBigA said:
I think you're focusing on the media events, which are separate from the game. The "associated material" are not part of the game.
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The avalanche of media stories in the weeks proceeding the game are indeed part of the story. Some are sourced by the NFL itself (including the 5 hour vomit-fest on the day of the game) and some, probably just every sports reporter trying for a byline. And that's not counting another million commercial tie-ins that refer to the "big game".

And that's where I'll stop. You can believe or not.
 
landtuna said:
And that's where I'll stop. You can believe or not.
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It's not about what I "believe." Media is it's own thing. People report on things because there's massive interest, as evidenced by the 123 million. This is all very basic. You aren't interested, and you can stay in your silo. No one forces you to do anything. Lots of options to avoid popular culture. But they're not going to change to suit one old guy in Arizona. You're not their target. You just end up as collateral damage.

The exact same media frenzy happens around any major holiday, from Christmas to Valentine's Day. They're easy things to plan for and schedule. Nothing different or unique about this.
 
TheBigA said:
You just end up as collateral damage.
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To be clear, he’s not “damage” at all.

I don’t like opera. I’m not collateral damage because there is an opera at a theater in town. Nor collateral damage because the restaurant nearby offers a special if you bring your tickets in. Or that there are concessions offered on-site.

Don’t like pre-game? Don’t watch. Easy. Some fans like it. More power to ‘em.

And the NFL and outlets that cover it put out stories about the league all year long. It’s a business; the Super Bowl is no different in that regard.

The horror, the absolute horror, of businesses tying in to an event. I mean who ever heard of such a thing? It’s almost like businesses exist to make profits.

All the whining about people who like something the OP just can’t grasp isn’t a result of collateral damage. The damage that demonstrates is of the personal nature.
 
AbrahamJSimpson said:
To be clear, he’s not “damage” at all.
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I meant it as "accidental contact." It's aimed at someone else, and he happened to get in the way.

But we agree that no one forces anyone to take part in popular culture. That applies to music, TV, movies, clothing, haircuts, tattoos or anything else. It all exists on it's own buffet table, and you can either select from it or not. The fact that it's there isn't 'stupid.'
 
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