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Sylva
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That's sad to read.
I *am* curious....NC is one of the few states to have a fulltime 50kW AM (WPTF) AND another station running fulltime.
Is there anyone living in the area that can tell me what they can hear at night now?
Maybe someone can buy WRGC and make a go of it. (It won't be me.)
cd
I *am* curious....NC is one of the few states to have a fulltime 50kW AM (WPTF) AND another station running fulltime.
Is there anyone living in the area that can tell me what they can hear at night now?
Maybe someone can buy WRGC and make a go of it. (It won't be me.)
cd
This is a shock and disappointing, I visit that area frequently and know someone who keeps in touch with Art and I was under the impression the station was doing well, they have a CP to move to 540 AM and increase their power to 5kw days and along with the FM translator they have in Cherokee you would think things were going good. Art recently shut down an FM in Georgia for the same reason as WRGC. I always thought it would be easier to sell a station while it was on the air as opposed to selling it as a dark facility.
Art sometimes posts on this site. I am sure he will give us the info some. Compared to the other operations, the 680 worked well coverage wise. There was quite a lot posted about the Sylva / WCNN 680 issue. Maybe the Dickeys will be able to improve 680 with out dealing with WRGC. I have driven the area frequently and if you push scan on AM or FM sometimes it will not stop!! This area has lost many "non tourist" jobs in the last few years. The Bryson City station was dark. The WRGC web site says their lease is up. I wonder if Mr Childers is the landlord. The 540 will work in several cities, some bigger than Asheville. I was talking to an operator and suggested he should "check out" 540. Art have filed and so there was no reason to pursue it.
pccrw said:Sad, they had a CP to move to 540KHz. Move it to Asheville, it is all about population.
That might not work, Richlands VA might be to close.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WGTH&service=AM&status=L&hours=D
secondchoice said:Art sometimes posts on this site. I am sure he will give us the info some. Compared to the other operations, the 680 worked well coverage wise. There was quite a lot posted about the Sylva / WCNN 680 issue. Maybe the Dickeys will be able to improve 680 with out dealing with WRGC. I have driven the area frequently and if you push scan on AM or FM sometimes it will not stop!! This area has lost many "non tourist" jobs in the last few years. The Bryson City station was dark. The WRGC web site says their lease is up. I wonder if Mr Childers is the landlord. The 540 will work in several cities, some bigger than Asheville. I was talking to an operator and suggested he should "check out" 540. Art have filed and so there was no reason to pursue it.
I highly doubt Art will be posting anything - at least anytime soon. WLOS-TV News did a good story on the station this evening and reported that Georgia-Carolina Radiocasting had not returned phone calls seeking comment.
Eric
eacalhoun1 said:I highly doubt Art will be posting anything - at least anytime soon. WLOS-TV News did a good story on the station this evening and reported that Georgia-Carolina Radiocasting had not returned phone calls seeking comment.
Eric
Is there a link to the TV story?
I was lucky to work for Mr Childers (IIRC the RGC of WRGC) in the early 1980's. One of he most important thing he said about buying a station was the "local" economic health of your city (or town). He said he learned the hard way when he bought a station in a mill town and the mills(s) shut down about a year after he bought the station. He said it was a very costly mistake.
From WLOS w/ video -
http://www.wlos.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wlos_vid_5334.shtml
My brain is not what it used to be, but it seems that back when the FCC opened up the expanded band (1620-1700), WRGC applied to move there. But, they either backed out or were never awarded a CP - or maybe they did get the CP but didn't build it in time or still decided to back out. I just remember seeing something about that, but don't remember the details. That was 15 or so years ago, I guess.
http://www.wlos.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wlos_vid_5334.shtml
My brain is not what it used to be, but it seems that back when the FCC opened up the expanded band (1620-1700), WRGC applied to move there. But, they either backed out or were never awarded a CP - or maybe they did get the CP but didn't build it in time or still decided to back out. I just remember seeing something about that, but don't remember the details. That was 15 or so years ago, I guess.
And that's what I get for not reading page two.
WCU and their little station is nearby, isn't it? Maybe they could do some community service.
WCU and their little station is nearby, isn't it? Maybe they could do some community service.
WWCU-FM is a very good college outlet. WCU is a community involved institution, and has a good signal in Cherokee and Waynesville They do a lot of community involvement and give local underwriters a tremendous deal. Listen to their classic rock format online. A very professional and compelling sounding station
http://www.wwcufm.com
http://www.wwcufm.com
If Art Sutton can't make a go of it then who could? This guy is one of the better operators and you can tell from the news story linked above that the community wants, and needs, local radio.
The previous comment about the mill closings is one of the issues. Another important factor has been Walmart. Walmart has shut down more small town retailers than you can count. All so we can have cheap, Chinese manufactured "stuff."
Most small towns can not support a media outlet because the small business retailer is practically extinct. Lower prices may be good for us as consumers but it will be hell to pay for the small businessperson......and indirectly.....everyone who works for them!
Enjoy your cheap flat screen TV......hope you're teaching your children Chinese..............
The previous comment about the mill closings is one of the issues. Another important factor has been Walmart. Walmart has shut down more small town retailers than you can count. All so we can have cheap, Chinese manufactured "stuff."
Most small towns can not support a media outlet because the small business retailer is practically extinct. Lower prices may be good for us as consumers but it will be hell to pay for the small businessperson......and indirectly.....everyone who works for them!
Enjoy your cheap flat screen TV......hope you're teaching your children Chinese..............
taylorengineer said:If Art Sutton can't make a go of it then who could? This guy is one of the better operators and you can tell from the news story linked above that the community wants, and needs, local radio.
The previous comment about the mill closings is one of the issues. Another important factor has been Walmart. Walmart has shut down more small town retailers than you can count. All so we can have cheap, Chinese manufactured "stuff."
Most small towns can not support a media outlet because the small business retailer is practically extinct. Lower prices may be good for us as consumers but it will be hell to pay for the small businessperson......and indirectly.....everyone who works for them!
Enjoy your cheap flat screen TV......hope you're teaching your children Chinese..............
And a new Wal-Mart Supercenter is slated for Franklin, just down the road from Sylva, and home to two more Art Sutton stations. Franklin just "lost" a local AM. It's still on the air, but no longer local. It's importing programming from Toccoa Falls College. I had not given thought that Wal-Mart's ripple effect can hurt small-town radio stations - excellent point.
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You guys are dead-on about Walmart. They hurt EVERYBODY!
If your rec team needs uniforms or equipment or your charity golf tournament needs sponsors they call the Mom & Pops. Walmart doesn't support the community like the locals do, never have, never will.
It's like we've all heard, when Walmart puts all the locals out of business then what do you think they'll charge??
If your rec team needs uniforms or equipment or your charity golf tournament needs sponsors they call the Mom & Pops. Walmart doesn't support the community like the locals do, never have, never will.
It's like we've all heard, when Walmart puts all the locals out of business then what do you think they'll charge??
Have you ever heard a Wal-Mart commercial on the radio? Last week I heard a Wal Mart commercial on a nearby small town radio station. It went something like this:
"...Tired of driving around to several small stores to get all the stuff you need. Now you can visit your new Wal Mart Supercenter on Highway 98 and get everything you need in just one stop..."
Well, that's the just of it. I was offended by this commercial. If I hear it many more times I plan to call the radio station and voice my complaint (this would be a first for me). I hope most small town radio operators would reject advertising from Wal Mart and continue to support the local community business even if it hurts the bottom line. I know I would not advertise on a radio station running spots for Wal Mart.
"...Tired of driving around to several small stores to get all the stuff you need. Now you can visit your new Wal Mart Supercenter on Highway 98 and get everything you need in just one stop..."
Well, that's the just of it. I was offended by this commercial. If I hear it many more times I plan to call the radio station and voice my complaint (this would be a first for me). I hope most small town radio operators would reject advertising from Wal Mart and continue to support the local community business even if it hurts the bottom line. I know I would not advertise on a radio station running spots for Wal Mart.
It's amazing to me that "Wal-Mart" can make a difference between a radio station staying on the air or going dark, i'm saddened that WRGC in Sylva signed off because of the economy, but in your smaller communities, this is becoming the case more often, plant closings contributes to this, and keep in mind many owners of small stores who have been opened for decades are fading, not in every case because of a "Big Box" retailer coming in.
tothedj said:It's amazing to me that "Wal-Mart" can make a difference between a radio station staying on the air or going dark, i'm saddened that WRGC in Sylva signed off because of the economy, but in your smaller communities, this is becoming the case more often, plant closings contributes to this, and keep in mind many owners of small stores who have been opened for decades are fading, not in every case because of a "Big Box" retailer coming in.
Maybe I'm old school..but..if it takes "Dollar a holler" to keep a local station on, I'm all for it! BIGAPE
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