TALENT IN THE TRIAD

[MaskMan]

Would they be smart enough to hire Carmen from Hitz94? She would be AWESOME on a rock station. The girl's got IT. Needs a little coaching, but a diamond in the rough that could become a major talent.

 

[patspita]

Carmen is good. Whatever happened to Jill Dyson? I don't really think that either of them are great "rock chicks", but if they teamed together on a current format, that might be something.

What about other KRR staff already in place? Weather Dave was doing something a while back ago on Sunday afternoons with some other guy who had a really nasally voice. It would be a stretch for him to take over afternoons by himself though.

I think Ronnie Alexander who does middays sounds great on the air. With some coaching, like you said about Carmen, she could really be something, too. She has been with KRR for a long time if you count her stint from a few years back before she left for Chicago. They must like her since they re-hired her again a couple of years ago.

Eugene is original, but still not seasoned enough for afternoons....who else is in the building qualified?

 

[Raleigh Rocker]

I think the difference between small and major is more one of skill, not talent. They are two very different things and my experience has shown the average level of skill in a major market to be much higher than smaller ones. I don't hear anyone here in raleigh who I think has the skill level to make it in a top ten. Talent, maybe.
As far as quality of life, I had the great good fortune to work in New York, Boston and DC before I switched careers (retired IBMer now) and I love it here. But I loved it there too. The quality is different, not necesarily better here. Though I do get to see my Heels more often.

 

[music_man]

From what I've heard the plan is for Ronie to take PM drive and Dave will get mid-day's. He'll probably be voice-tracked since he'll still be a regular on the Chris's show.

 

[XTalker]

The biggest difference between major markets and others is resouces! There are hundreds of talented and skilled radio people in markets across the country who could compete in the majors if they had the resources of the majors. Hell, most morning shows in North Carolina operate without a producer, do their own board opping, and then work a production shift afterwards.

 

[Raleigh Rocker]

Resources in a major are much greater, most importantly a good producer. But that doesn't guarantee execution. And everybody, except a few like Imus, runs their own board these days. Dees, Stern, Matty Siegel and others all run the board. The bottom line is , you can say "so and so" is as good as anybody in a major, but the only way to prove it is to go and do it. Til then, it's really a moot point.
And I repeat, I have utmost respect for those who stay in smaller markets, for whatever reason.

 

[johnqdoe]

The difference in resources from a top 10 market to a market like GSO really isn't THAT much. The difference is between markets like GSO and say yrtle BEach, Charleston or Savannah. THOSE are places where the jock does damn near everything. From the show, to prod, to driving the station vehicls to events and hangin banners etc., etc....And for Raleigh Rocker....Do you automatically think a jock is an A-list talent simply because he has a major market gig on the resume?????

 

[Raleigh Rocker]

I try never to generalise about any talent. But, all else being equal, you have to go with the major market experience. It's just a different ballgame in Boston than it is in Raleigh. And I respectfully disagree about resources. In a top 10 resources are a quantum leap above what's available in, say market 42. At least I was fortunate enough to work at stations that had huge resources. Maybe that's not true for smaller big market properties. I'm not sure that made sense, but I hope the point is clear.

 

[XTalker]

Truth of the matter is there is little difference between Boston and Raleigh or Greensboro. There are people in major markets who suck and there are people in large markets and medium markets who are good! I would submit to you that there are few people in Boston or New York would could come to Greensboro and do what Bill Flynn, Jack Murphy or Glenn Scott have done - that is build a loyal following in their genre and done it year after year after year!

 

[BIG APE]

;D At the pay they get, that is!

 

[longjohnmaroon]

;D At the pay they get, that is!

What do you mean at the pay they get?

I gurantee you that those 3 personalities mentioned by xtalker are each well into 6 figures for their pay. Even in Boston that would be pretty good. And when you compare the cost of living between Boston and the Triad or the Triangle, it would take a $150,000.00 salary in Boston to equal a $100,000.00 salary in Raleigh. I'm sure Greensboro is very similar.

 

[BIG APE]

What I said was, there were no jocks in those markets gonna come down to the Triad and work for what they get paid and I stand by that. I don't know where you work or if you work, but I guarantee you none of those three people make $100,000 unless they are selling also and have some big accounts! SHOW ME

 

[johnqdoe]

What I said was, there were no jocks in those markets gonna come down to the Triad and work for what they get paid and I stand by that. I don't know where you work or if you work, but I guarantee you none of those three people make $100,000 unless they are selling also and have some big accounts! SHOW ME

While I doubt anyone will post their W2s...I'm sure the three folks listed there are into the 100,000+ range. There are people in major markets making 35K and people in 100+ markets making 100K. As for coming from a major to the Triad.... again, it comes down to an individual's personal choices on family and lifestyle. It would have to be a HELL of a deal to get me to move to Detroit or Philly. Cold, dirty, smelly cities full of rude people don't entice me....no matter the market size.

 

[goldenear]

Flynn's quarterly bonus structure would probably reach that 100k figure over the course of a year, but he's been at MAG since Christ was a Corporal...

My guess the other two mentioned are in the same ballpark.

 

[Raleigh Rocker]

I guess I'll just have to agree to disagree on the major vs. minor thing. Though I have to believe if you think Philly is a dirty smelly city you've never lived there. Great city, GREAT radio city.
And the top morning guys there, in Boston, and Detroit are making over a million. i.e. Lander, Seigel, Purtan. In N Y even more. So they're probably scraping by.
I suppose it's an apples and oranges kind of thing.

 

[CCX1]

What I said was, there were no jocks in those markets gonna come down to the Triad and work for what they get paid and I stand by that. I don't know where you work or if you work, but I guarantee you none of those three people make $100,000 unless they are selling also and have some big accounts! SHOW ME

Big Ape, you must be out of touch! It's pretty much common knowledge that the three guys in questions ARE making six figure incomes. And, no, they don't sell! I used to work with Bill Flynn, who (if I'm not mistaken) also negotiated not doing any production work years ago! He only does it if he's getting a huge talent fee. I feel certain that since Flynn is making six figures, then the other two are making it, as well. Frankly, I'm sure when their contracts were up, their companies decided they were worth it and then some! Can't show you (for obvious reasons), but believe me, I'm 99.5% certain it's true!

 

[longjohnmaroon]

What I said was, there were no jocks in those markets gonna come down to the Triad and work for what they get paid and I stand by that. I don't know where you work or if you work, but I guarantee you none of those three people make $100,000 unless they are selling also and have some big accounts! SHOW ME

First of all Big Ape, yes I do work. Second of all, you know I can't show you, but you are just going to have to take my word for it. In fact, I'll go one step further and say this. Of the three, I think Murphy is probably the higher paid with Flynn coming in second and Glenn in third. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if Murphy is not knocking down over $200,000.00 a year. And those 3 are not the only ones in the market pulling in over 6 figures.

Radio is just like any part of the entertainment business. You have people in the same station doing the same job, but one of them is making 6 figures and the other one is just barely making a living. In fact, if the station is well run, your top talent in the station is going to make a lot more than the General Manager. If you have a station where the GM is your highest paid employee and your talent is just scraping by, then the chances are pretty good that you have a lousy radio station.

And being the highest paid employee in the station also comes with a lot of pressure. If that employee ceases to pull in the big advertising dollars to justify their salary, then the GM is going to cut the biggest expense first.

 

[XTalker]

For the record, Glenn's base is now under 100K - but he gets to do his show in his underwear from Horse Shoe. Add talent for live spots and remotes and he is back over six figures. The pre-Horse Shoe deal we well over 100K.

But, this conversation is not about money - it is about talent. My previous comments stand!