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TALK NETWORK AFFILIATE LISTS' "LITTLE LIES"

OhioMediaWatch

OhioMediaWatch

So, when Westwood One's Bill O'Reilly was on the radio, could you really hear him "in Cleveland" on 500 watt directional east side signal WELW/1330 Willoughby? Maybe. In the northern half of I-271 corridor (Ditto with his replacement, Fred Thompson, who is still on that station.)

Everyone knows that those talk radio affiliate lists are full of many stations that barely have a chance of reaching most of the market's population.

We've got another example right here, where Media-Com daytime rimshot WJMP/1520 Kent will show up on the affiliate lists of TRN's Mancow, Laura Ingraham and Michael Savage as an "Akron" affiliate (and hell, maybe even Cleveland!).

WJMP's highly-directional 1,000 watt signal splatters into PARTS of Akron, and a small number of far-southeastern Cleveland suburbs. It can't even be heard south of downtown Akron because of co-channel Canton station WINW (gospel).

So, in this spirit...

Name some other egregious examples of "affiliate list lies".

Or, other horrible rimshot stations trying to serve a nearby major market. We had a sports talker (SNR affiliate) on 1560 up in Chardon, which boldly proclaimed itself "Cleveland's SportsRadio 1560", where you couldn't hear them in nearly all of Cuyahoga County...
 
...when Tom Leykis was being marketed by Westwood One as a "liberal" (a tag Tom always hated) circa '94, WW1 would list 1,000-watt daytimer WBKV West Bend as his "Milwaukee affiliate." When driving around the north side of Milwaukee I'd get Leykis clearer over WTSO Madison and WJJD Chicago than I ever did WBKV...
 
I think every show is probably 'guilty' of this...if it is in fact wrong. I know that many syndicators go by the Mstreet classification. If it says Akron market then they are an Akron station...even if the signal does not cover the entire DMA or metro.
 
Ultimajock said:
...when Tom Leykis was being marketed by Westwood One as a "liberal" (a tag Tom always hated) circa '94, WW1 would list 1,000-watt daytimer WBKV West Bend as his "Milwaukee affiliate." When driving around the north side of Milwaukee I'd get Leykis clearer over WTSO Madison and WJJD Chicago than I ever did WBKV...
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Tom Leykis was one of the most Liberal radio hosts,I've ever heard.
 
Back on topic, I remember when Air America announced their new "Philadelphia" affiliate when it was, in fact, an AM daytimer from Stroudsburg, PA.
 
David67 said:
Ultimajock said:
...when Tom Leykis was being marketed by Westwood One as a "liberal" (a tag Tom always hated) circa '94, WW1 would list 1,000-watt daytimer WBKV West Bend as his "Milwaukee affiliate." When driving around the north side of Milwaukee I'd get Leykis clearer over WTSO Madison and WJJD Chicago than I ever did WBKV...
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Tom Leykis was one of the most Liberal radio hosts,I've ever heard.
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...then you haven't heard many hosts overall, and you never listened to Tom for more than three or four hours max...

...having said that, there's a big whopper over on http://www.mikemalloy.com/stations/--- Malloy is listing "Tucson KJLL 1130 AM". Problems are, KJLL is on 1330 (the nearest 1130 to Tucson is XEHN, a Ranchera station in Nogales, Sonora, Mexico, and they sure ain't carrying Mike Malloy), and John C. Scott at KJLL sure was surprised when I called him fifteen minutes ago and asked when the station was running the Mike Malloy program; his response was, "we're not" ;D ...
 
Ultimajock said:
...when Tom Leykis was being marketed by Westwood One as a "liberal" (a tag Tom always hated) circa '94, WW1 would list 1,000-watt daytimer WBKV West Bend as his "Milwaukee affiliate." When driving around the north side of Milwaukee I'd get Leykis clearer over WTSO Madison and WJJD Chicago than I ever did WBKV...
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Hmm, interesting. 'BKV (now classic country) used to be a daytime-only station! Didn't know that until I read your post!
 
MarquisP4 said:
Ultimajock said:
...when Tom Leykis was being marketed by Westwood One as a "liberal" (a tag Tom always hated) circa '94, WW1 would list 1,000-watt daytimer WBKV West Bend as his "Milwaukee affiliate." When driving around the north side of Milwaukee I'd get Leykis clearer over WTSO Madison and WJJD Chicago than I ever did WBKV...
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Hmm, interesting. 'BKV (now of course classic country) used to be a daytime-only station! Didn't know that until I read your post!
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newhampshiredude said:
Lou Dobbs lists Boston's Classic Station, 99.5 WCRB, as a Boston affiliate (check it out here: http://loudobbsradio.com/stationfinder?action=stateSearch&state=MA.
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Lou Dobbs has WJOB in Hammond, IN. (just east of the IL. border). The station on 1230AM used to be
listenable through most of the south side and south suburbs, however, their audio is so bad at night, that you
practically have to be next to the tower with the radio cranked all the way up to actually hear it clearly. There
is another problem with them calling it a Chicago affiliate, there is WSBC AM 1240, which is licensed to Chicago.
WSBC makes WJOB impossible to listen to north of downtown Chicago, and causes co-channel interference well
south of downtown.
 
NewsVet said:
Randi Rhodes' web page (www.randirhodes.com) lists KTOK as a "Los Angeles" affiliate. But KTOK, which operates with 1000 watts, is actually in Needles, CA, more than 250 miles from Los Angeles.
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Ah, but this one's just a typo - Randi's on KTLK 1150, which is indeed a Los Angeles station.
 
Scott Fybush said:
NewsVet said:
Randi Rhodes' web page (www.randirhodes.com) lists KTOK as a "Los Angeles" affiliate. But KTOK, which operates with 1000 watts, is actually in Needles, CA, more than 250 miles from Los Angeles.
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Ah, but this one's just a typo - Randi's on KTLK 1150, which is indeed a Los Angeles station.
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No, it's not a typo. Randi's affiliate list includes both KTLK and KTOX. The KTOX listing includes its dial position, which is different than KTLK's 1150: KTOX-AM 1340 Los Angeles, CA M-F 3p-6p www.ktox1340am.net
 
Heh!

I was in Needles a few months ago. It is definitely a very long way from LA - even if it is in San Bernardino County and, I think, technically part of the LA TV market. (The local cable lineup comes from across the river in Arizona and is mostly Phoenix stations, with a few Vegas stations and KTLA and KMEX from LA; I think satellite customers in Needles get LA local-into-local service.)
 
NewsVet said:
NewsVet said:
Randi Rhodes' web page (www.randirhodes.com) lists KTOK as a "Los Angeles" affiliate. But KTOK, which operates with 1000 watts, is actually in Needles, CA, more than 250 miles from Los Angeles.

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KTOX&service=AM&status=L&hours=U
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I got the call letters wrong (it's KTOX), but it's still more than 250 miles from L.A.
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Wow, Rhandi isn't on in LA, might as well give up if a Nationally syndicated talker ain't on in LA
 
Leebo65 said:
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Wow, Rhandi isn't on in LA, might as well give up if a Nationally syndicated talker ain't on in LA
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No, she's on KTLK in Los Angeles. The curious thing is that even though she is on that L.A. station, her web site also lists her as being on another supposed L.A. station, which is actually 250+ miles away.

However she is NOT on in New York or Chicago and despite being syndicated by Premiere is now on fewer stations than she was on when she was syndicated by the now defunct NovaM network.
 
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