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Tell me about 1690 AM

Goat Rodeo Cowboy will remember that broadcast band DXing was my hobby when he and I worked together in the mid '50s in Stuttgart, AR. Following a recent get-together with '70s and '80s New Orleans radio people, I scanned my car's AM band to see what I'd get, coming up I-55 toward Memphis. Most of the usual 50kW suspects for that area: 650 WSM, 670 Chicago (WMAQ back in the day, but pretty sure I remember a CLs change long ago), 700 WLW, 720 WGN, 740 KTRH, 750 WSB, 760 WJR, 780 WBBM, 810 KCMO (with a lotta "hash"), 820 WBAP, 830 WCCO (some hash there, too), 840 WHAS, 850 KOA (pretty choppy), 870 WWL (could've probably done that one withOUT the radio), 890 WLS, 1040 WHO (also pretty choppy; must've been a bad atmosphere night in the upper midwest, although those Chi-town muggers were mostly blasting in), 1080 KRLD (some hash there, also), 1120 KMOX (see comments, WWL), 1160 KSL, 1200 WOAI, 1500 KSTP, 1510 WLAC, 1530 WCKY. Also got varying-readability signals on those new freq's north of 1600, but they were all either ESPN or Fox Sports, and if they even played a local identifier (didn't hear any actual legal IDs), it didn't include call letters or city. All in all, nothing more less than you'd expect, away from city interference.
But getting back to my lakeside village on the Ark/Mo border at 3PM on a cloudy but dry afternoon, I happened to notice someone banging in like a local on 1690. Stayed in the car long enough to ID 'em -- damnation! WVON, Chicago. Stayed loud and clear for the entire half hour I was in the car. Ran down the band to all the other Chi freq's -- not a thing.
In the past few days, with weather varying from completely cloudy to completely sunny, I've had some equally unexpected results on that upper end: 1620 Pensacola (wish the lady jock with the really sweet pipes had said some CLs), Weerdo's 1640 WTMI Gulfport 4PM Sunday, solid half hour in pure sunshine -- only exception: one road I took, went from S9R5 on them to a pretty choppy signal on what Wayne tells me is probably Radio Disney out of Wisconsin. That would probably be right, because the previous afternoon, with a lot of clouds, got a sports talker on either 1660 or 1670 from Kalamazoo; same afternoon, heard another from Wisconsin or Minnesota in the same part of that high-end spectrum.
Verrrrrrry interressssting (although, reading how much space this took, I can also hear a chorus of "Verrrrrry bo-rrrrrrrrrring." :-[
 
I listen to 1690 down here in F-L-A when I can suck it out of the sky. Love the eclecticness of it... Wish they'd kick the 10kw on after midnight once in awhile (like I used to do with 1660 on Marco Island).
Hope they live long and prosper!
 
I live across the street from the WQXI tower on Cheshire Bridge. I have RF filters on all our telephones, modems, and fire alarm. We have all kinds of RF interference here.
 
I wonder if they are encoding for Arbitron - they didn't show at all. WCFO, the "talk" station owned by Weber and run by Jeff Davis did show so I'm assuming both stations are encoding.....
I wouldn't expect a 5 share for Joe's format but I would think there would be enough Atlantans who would "get it" for 1690 to at least show. The PPM data so far is not good.....
But 1690 is what radio should be. Experimental. Intellectually probing and poking. Daring....often failing but sometimes brilliantly dazzling. Weber doesn't seem to be afraid to try practically anything - I'll bet he's the only station on the planet with bird call ID's.
The "Long Drive Home" sometimes features Joe Weber himself. (My only complaint is his over-indulgence in Opera)The weekend country/bluegrass is another favorite. Too bad this can't be a HD2 channel for a FM - with some advertising and promotion this could be a viable "niche" format.
 
Come on...1690's format is AWFUL! I bet the people who say they listen DON'T. Who in their right mind will listen to opera and then some Hank Williams hillbilly crap. If you want to play EVERYTHING then maybe put it in a block format then you know what you are getting. It's the worst mess I have ever heard. As far as WCFO 1160, it's boring tired talk. Both stations are encoding but it's useless. They will NEVER have any ratings. I'm surprised Joe has continued to put money in those two black holes but then again he will never recoup what he paid for them.
 
amlover said:
Come on...1690's format is AWFUL! I bet the people who say they listen DON'T. Who in their right mind will listen to opera and then some Hank Williams hillbilly crap. If you want to play EVERYTHING then maybe put it in a block format then you know what you are getting. It's the worst mess I have ever heard. As far as WCFO 1160, it's boring tired talk. Both stations are encoding but it's useless. They will NEVER have any ratings. I'm surprised Joe has continued to put money in those two black holes but then again he will never recoup what he paid for them.

First of all.......I don't claim to "be in my right mind"
But to call Hank William's music "hillbilly crap" is fightin' words.......
In the world of radio Americana ala 2008 not playing 10 in a row commercial free with your chance to win 101 dollars cash just listen to win is just plain stupid. After all, who wants to listen to the radio if you don't hear 10 in a row commercial free with a chance to win 101 dollars just for listening every Thursday morning from 6-10 where you'll get traffic and weather together on the fives and all your favorite friends and artists and just oooone more cup of coffeeeeee......
I like the hillbilly crap - weuns' hillbilly mutants don't care too much for Opera - but I also like the Otis Redding, BB King, Piano Red, Emmylou Harris, Judy Collins, Allman Brothers, Loretta Lynn, Leon Redbone et al. There is even an occasional favorite Bing Crosby or ol' blue eyes recording......
If you like cookie cutter radio....if you dream of being Scott Shannon or Rick Dees....then you're right. 1690 is NOT for you!
 
amlover said:
Come on...1690's format is AWFUL! I bet the people who say they listen DON'T. Who in their right mind will listen to opera and then some Hank Williams hillbilly crap. If you want to play EVERYTHING then maybe put it in a block format then you know what you are getting. It's the worst mess I have ever heard. As far as WCFO 1160, it's boring tired talk. Both stations are encoding but it's useless. They will NEVER have any ratings. I'm surprised Joe has continued to put money in those two black holes but then again he will never recoup what he paid for them.

AMLover.. you know I respect you, but I don';t think you're unbiased as you used to work there, back when the 1690 format was on 1160... so you're not exactly unbiased.
 
Well you are correct on some aspects and I do appreciate the respect but I was really let go from 1160 for no reason other than Joe wanted my shift at the time. This was after I trained everyone on RCS. There are some great folks at 1160 and 1690 but the format is not my cup of tea. Tom no disrespect on Hank Williams either and I can listen to country with no problem, heck I played enough of it at Kicks over the years but I don't like it mixed with everything else on the music calendar.
 
Flipped through the CDs in my new used truck and found from the last rtoad trip:

Lucinda Williams
Great opera moments
two Percy Sledge
The Essential Bobby Bare
the first four Dr. Hook
Bellamy Bros
Amazing Rythm Aces
Michelle Shocked
The Band's Music From Big Pink
and a collection of about 50 alternative country The Bushman made for me.

Perfect hour being bored on 85 North headed for a dog show:
'Car tires on a Gravel Road' Lucinda - 'Take Time to Know Her' Percy - the Grand March fromAida - "carry me Carrie" Hook - 'The Ballad Of' Hook - '"Emma Jean" Aces - "500 Miles" Bobby Bare - "The Winner" Bare - "Amazing Grace (Used to be Her Favorite Song" Aces - "Penny Evans" Michelle Shocked - "Prodigal Daughter" Shocked - "The Weight" The Band - "Jesus Is Coming" Bellamys - "Anvil Chorus" Vienna State Orchestra and Chorus - "Dallas From a DC-9 at Night" Gary Nunn

And wehn I head West for eight or nine hours I getinto the obscure stuff no foolin'. Eclectic are us. 1690 ain't bad for a commercial outlet, but it's kinda mundane withal.
And there's a Charley Pride in there someplace under the seat.
 
Wouldn't it be AWESOME if, instead of that mishmash bunch of nonsense, 1690 played 60's & 70's hits with live jocks and a hot retro jingle package? Much of that music just sounds better on AM.
 
grmf said:
jabba17 said:
Question for the board: Does anyone have a map as to who all is in that area? 920, 790, 970, and 1190 are also all in that area as well but none appear to share a tower with WMLB. There's one multitower array which I assume is 790's.
If I remember correctly, as you travel on Cheshire Bridge from I-85 the 4 tower field on your left just after Southern Nights is 790, The next tower (set further back is 970, the next tower (taller and closer to Cheshire Bridge) is 920 and then on the right is the 1690 tower. The even taller tower on the right, closer to I-85, is WPBA's aux tower.

Using Google Maps, click on Satellite:

790/WQXI
920/WGKA
970/WNIV
1190/WAFS
1690/WMLB - in a parking lot behind a building.
All stations are non-directional except WQXI (4 towers).


and
1380/WAOK - nowhere near.
 
trusty said:
grmf said:
jabba17 said:
Question for the board: Does anyone have a map as to who all is in that area? 920, 790, 970, and 1190 are also all in that area as well but none appear to share a tower with WMLB. There's one multitower array which I assume is 790's.
If I remember correctly, as you travel on Cheshire Bridge from I-85 the 4 tower field on your left just after Southern Nights is 790, The next tower (set further back is 970, the next tower (taller and closer to Cheshire Bridge) is 920 and then on the right is the 1690 tower. The even taller tower on the right, closer to I-85, is WPBA's aux tower.

Using Google Maps, click on Satellite:

790/WQXI
920/WGKA
970/WNIV
1190/WAFS
1690/WMLB - in a parking lot behind a building.
All stations are non-directional except WQXI (4 towers).


and
1380/WAOK - nowhere near.

Apologies about the WAOK and WLMB screw-up.. I mis read the co-ordinates :)
 
Had to laugh--went to their website this morning and under "Today's Playlist" is a list of 7 tracks...but it's written in the faux-Latin used by web developers as content filler. You know, "Sed at metus -- Ad Itorquent"...that kind of thing. However, for a moment, it crossed my mind that maybe, just maybe, they'd uncovered a recording of monks chanting the pre-Vatican 2 Latin mass. If any station would play that, this one would!
 
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