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The Buddy Cianci Show

Ok, 1st,, Buddy is going after Cicillines head of Admin. Fine EXCEPT, YORKE has been doing that for 3 YEARS!
The Providence Foundation salary thing, ALL YORKE'S. So are the other Cicilline stories, including Miss Kitty Litter. As for Buddy doing 3 hours and St Pierre doing the last, Buddy, as I said before , only really wanted to work until noon. Ron doing the last hour is to RECAP the 3 hours of Buddies. It's ALL about Buddy.
Nothing at WPRO is by accident.

I think most people in Rhode Island are AMORAL. Buddy could have raped and killed a Nun and most R I s would find that 'Interesting". His ratings will be fine.

Guess America has changed for the better, Ha.
 
From Seekonk Sally:
Many old war stories like how he fired the garbagemen, hung with Sinatra, etc. For the almost $300,000 that PRO is paying him, he is laughing at them, and his audience. As other posters have acurately reported, Buddy is flying big time by the seat of his pants. He stutters and stumbles his way through THREE hours of old stories, and retreading what DePetro has already covered. His witty reparte would be great for a ten minute interview on someone else's show, but over his shift it gets very old, very fast.
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This is exactly why I thought Buddy Cianci might have more staying power if he were served in smaller helpings, perhaps only 2 hours at most, and above all......leave all the "We Love You Buddy"s out of the picture by having an entirely interview driven show, with recurring regular guest contributors, a la Joey Reynolds or Sally Jesse Raphael.

Just one opinion......value at close of trading on the NYSE Friday, Oct. 19...... 2 cents ;)
 
wc3434 said:
Ok, 1st,, Buddy is going after Cicillines head of Admin. Fine EXCEPT, YORKE has been doing that for 3 YEARS!
The Providence Foundation salary thing, ALL YORKE'S. So are the other Cicilline stories, including Miss Kitty Litter. As for Buddy doing 3 hours and St Pierre doing the last, Buddy, as I said before , only really wanted to work until noon. Ron doing the last hour is to RECAP the 3 hours of Buddies. It's ALL about Buddy.
Nothing at WPRO is by accident.

I think most people in Rhode Island are AMORAL. Buddy could have raped and killed a Nun and most R I s would find that 'Interesting". His ratings will be fine.

Guess America has changed for the better, Ha.
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Walter...the man was on vaca at the Sheraton Ft Dix up until a couple of months ago and the most recent shot across his bow was fired about 2 weeks ago in a press release, so new territory for him to tred on, especially seeing as now there is someone to call them into question who was in the seat in Kennedy Plaza and who's administration was supposedly bad for development; but as of yet, I still haven't seen the proof to show that it was bad for development. The other stories as well have new life as the Director of Protocol slipped some comments to the Pro-Jo just prior to the parade for Columbus Day and yet, still hasn't backed it up.

The current Mayor has to realize that he & his administration/campaign can no longer throw statements out there and expect that just Dan will be firing back at them, Buddy will be there as well to stand up for himself.

As for the 4th hour, keep in mind that the Paul Harvey midday is run in that hour as well, so it is a shortened hour anyway and Buddy still may have other requirements of his time (Community Service?) that he still has to attend to...Citadel knew exactly what it was/is doing.

Your nun comment is way to disturbing and out of line to further comment on. You really need to get over your animosity or not bother to make personal comments as it makes you seem very petty, Walter. I think there are a lot better things you could be doing with yourself than still harboring whatever hate you have....it's not healthy.
Mom always said if you don't have something nice to say, saying nothing at all is a good place to start.
 
Wknd,

[EDIT] The Buddy Show is lame. Not everything Citadel does is a work of art. It's disturbing to read the company line on every single post you write. Citadel does a lot of things very right, Lite and Pro Fm have great ratings consistantly. Gio and Kim have a strong morning show, etc. Pro Am owns local talk, but enough !!!!!



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wknd 92. I think you're being alittle bit hard with WC. I went to some of Buddies trial. Remember Eddy Voccola? He worked close to Buddy and was a Mafia Made Man. Buddy was found guilty of Racketeering, which is akin to rape, murder. Severe felonies. The jury heard the dozens to organized efforts to Rob and Steal. The jury knew Buddy was the Mastermind of all the coruption from Correnti to Hames.
Dan Yorke can fight a ethical Clean fight against Mayor Cicilline. Buddy can't. No way.
I agree with Sally on this one.


Ryan
 
I have to strongly disagree with both of you, Sally and Ryan. To be honest, I should be harder.
I am not towing a company line, never worked for Citadel (worked for Cap Cities & Telemedia). I don't think what is going on at 790/99.7 is or has been workable for a number of years, still amazed/concerned that the night slot at Pro-FM is still open, that they shouldn't have brought Barber in in the first place (sorry Holland); but I also think that Walter's comments (and others') went way too far.

I know Buddy is a lightning rod-you either like him or don't and there is no gray area; but the attacks are getting more and more unfocused and coming from the gutter. People are a lot better than the stuff they are writing down here (or maybe they are not); but there are times when I just cannot take it any longer because I've seen enough.
 
Wknd,

This is not about love or hate Buddy. I personally like him and think he is a major league talent. That's why I'm so shocked that the show is so weak ( in my opinion). I expected to hear the kind of talk radio that propelled him to the point where he could be reelected after his initial fall from grace.
 
Dude, (wknd) I'm not attacking Buddy. Everything I've said is true. I think Dan Yorke has the credibility and Buddy doesn't. Just my opinion. Buddy is a convicted felon and Dan is a Pillar of the community. Sorry if that makes me or anyone sound extreme.



Ryan
 
Seekonk Sally said:
Wknd,

This is not about love or hate Buddy. I personally like him and think he is a major league talent. That's why I'm so shocked that the show is so weak ( in my opinion). I expected to hear the kind of talk radio that propelled him to the point where he could be reelected after his initial fall from grace.
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Well, I think you need to give him some time. I know he's had a good amount already, but he's still shaking off the memories. Things changed while he was away, that much is obvious. Remember when stories aren't bad until we start hearing the same ones over and over. As for the comments about "Buddy's Going to be here, he's going to be there", well, like it or not, that sells. Everyone wants a chance to see him, and those resturants are bringing in a lot of money because of it, which in turn means they can sell those spots for more money.
 
I think that the opinion of people here does infact reflect the opinion of WPRO listeners in general. People so far seem disappointed with Buddy and they think his show is very weak. There comes a point where you have to stop reminiscing about the past. Buddy needs to change direction and kick his show into overdrive. Otherwise WPRO will be stuck with a mediocre show that never gets anything more than mediocre ratings.

As it stands Buddy's show is something that might sound OK if it was aired after Midnight. Kick back and relax with Buddy overnights. That would be fine. But it certainly isn't a show that sounds like it belongs on the air at 10 AM in the morning. The program just doesn't have any energy.
 
Skynet74 said:
I think that the opinion of people here does infact reflect the opinion of WPRO listeners in general. People so far seem disappointed with Buddy and they think his show is very weak. There comes a point where you have to stop reminiscing about the past. Buddy needs to change direction and kick his show into overdrive. Otherwise WPRO will be stuck with a mediocre show that never gets anything more than mediocre ratings.

As it stands Buddy's show is something that might sound OK if it was aired after Midnight. Kick back and relax with Buddy overnights. That would be fine. But it certainly isn't a show that sounds like it belongs on the air at 10 AM in the morning. The program just doesn't have any energy.
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Sky, Sally & Ryan,

Because us knuckleheads are talking about it here does not in anyway reflect the actual listening audience one iota. If you went up to 100 people randomly on the street and asked them about how they feel about what is said about Buddy on Radio info.com, unless that street is Oxford St or Wampanoag Trail, all you are going to get are blank looks. Just because the wannabes/coulda beens here voice their opinion doesn't reflect the general listening audience (same thing with the callers to any talk show do not accurately reflect the listening audience).

This is fact!

Sally and Ryan, I am not dismissing your opinion, in fact I applaud it. What I am dismissing is the fact that WC (Walter)'s comments have gone beyond the line yet again about Buddy (actually as did yours, Sally b/c they got edited) and it is due to his bad prior relationship with Buddy. We know about that, it is a tired conversation...yes he is a convicted felon on one count while all the others were Not Guilty in Plunderdome and he did his time; but as Nizam said very acutely, what he does currently sells. Take up the personal stuff w/ Buddy himself because I for one am tired of it. Others think his show is weak; but as I have said I have found myself listening outside of my normal listening pattern to the show and find him to be fine, on target and able to speak on the topics that Ryan says he can't because he has not only a personal stake (in regards to the stmts from Cicilline's office re Buddy); but also a professional one as well as a talk host (ie today's talk about the Governor's attempt to get COL increases for his cabinet back in May while looking to cut jobs/benefits in the rank & file).
 
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wknd92 said:
I think that the opinion of people here does infact reflect the opinion of WPRO listeners in general.
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CORRECT.

ESPECIALLY-so here, since anonymity permits leaks, zinging-The Boss, revenge, and other second-agendas.

But it's not just here.
Very few people IN radio understand how radio sounds to people-NOT-in-radio.
 
wknd92 said:
I have to strongly disagree with both of you, Sally and Ryan. To be honest, I should be harder.
I am not towing a company line, never worked for Citadel (worked for Cap Cities & Telemedia). I don't think what is going on at 790/99.7 is or has been workable for a number of years, still amazed/concerned that the night slot at Pro-FM is still open, that they shouldn't have brought Barber in in the first place (sorry Holland); but I also think that Walter's comments (and others') went way too far.

I know Buddy is a lightning rod-you either like him or don't and there is no gray area; but the attacks are getting more and more unfocused and coming from the gutter. People are a lot better than the stuff they are writing down here (or maybe they are not); but there are times when I just cannot take it any longer because I've seen enough.
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i have to agree with wknd on this.... its very simple.... im sure citadel took alot into concideration before hiring buddy and switiching the entire station around i think buddy has a good show.... and ive said it before compared to the many that listen..... to the few here who dont like him....DONT LISTEN im sure wpro or citadel will not miss you..... and for the record who cares what he did while he was in office.... he still made providence a hell of alot nicer and better than what it was and it didnt cost me anything.... witch is more than what we can say for todays politations
 
Hey wknd , thats felony number 2. Look, I was covering Buddies trial. I spoke to too many people. In one case a policeman who used to drive for Buddy. Everyone of these people told me personal stories of Buddy with them. Bad, really bad stuff. I won't write it here.
Have a conversation with John Depetro. He'll make you sick with what he knows about Buddy.
the more I think about what wc wrote , the more I think it's true. There's no such thing as Shame anymore.

Ryan
 
wknd92 said:
Sky, Sally & Ryan,

Because us knuckleheads are talking about it here does not in anyway reflect the actual listening audience one iota. If you went up to 100 people randomly on the street and asked them about how they feel about what is said about Buddy on Radio info.com, unless that street is Oxford St or Wampanoag Trail, all you are going to get are blank looks.
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Oh I disagree 100 percent wknd92. First of all.... I never said that the public cared what people on Radio-info.com say. Of course they don't. What I did say is that I think the opinions of people here generally reflect the opinions of the public at large. For example.... if 20 people here think Buddy has a weak show, than you can bet that there is also a good percentage of WPRO's audience which feels the same way.
 
With GENUINE respect...

Expecting full well to be flamed for taking-one-more-pass-at-this, I will anyway.
And I do so because the conversation here is SO valuable.
It's GREAT to have dialog about radio...so here goes.

Skynet74 said:
if 20 people here think Buddy has a weak show, than you can bet that there is also a good percentage of WPRO's audience which feels the same way.
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With GENUINE respect, you couldn't be wronger.

Sit behind-the-one-way-mirror in focus groups, and watch people-eligible-to-get-a-diary talk about radio, and you'll feel differently QUICKLY.

The dispassionate way that most "real people" channel-surf is THE OPPOSITE OF the way we-who-post-here hear radio.
We're BUFFS.

Lurk near the check-out at Wal-Mart.
Or go get your driver's license renewed.
Look around.
See THEM?

http://members.aol.com/cookeh/ArbitronDiarykeepers.jpg (especially http:/members.aol.com/cookeh/At-work-listener.jpg) do NOT -- repeat, NOT -- hear-what-we-here-hear.

WE, HERE, care.

We need to make them NOTICE-enough-to-REMEMBER-having-listened-later (to write it down).
Not a theory.

Thus the Buddy gambit.
He's not just-another-voice-on-the-radio.
 
Whether it be Holland, 92, Radiohead, Ryan, Sally, extrem, Ken, or Skynet, You ALL make this place INTERESTING. (sometimes however, 92 does drive me CRAZY!) You all make this a place where ideas can get bounched around and sometimes get some good views. I enjoy you all! Walter.
 
Re: Be CAREFUL!!! Be very CAREFUL!!!

Holland Cooke said:
CAUTION: Welcoming consultants only encourages them...
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Who's been feeding Holland since I was away!?! Damn you!:)

Sky...NONONONONONONONONONONO! I have seen what Holland has been talking about-both inside radio and outside in the real world with focus groups. That is where I am coming from...the listening populace would have responses like "It's great to have Buddy back." and "I love Buddy" when asked; but it is only the people on the inside who pick at the shows content thinking they know better.

Case in point....look at the last 3 years of Jones & Joan and the Gary Degraide shows...holding ratings steady or starting to fall, no change in the personnel and a lot better show out there for them to gravitate to; but the core listeners cling to what they know. When Gio and Kim started to become more visible, you started to see a swing away from J&J and Gary (heck, even to WCTK until their morning show broke up)
 
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