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Yeah, I got it, compadre. My tried and true stance still holds firm.
If it ain't got a steel guitar, it ain't real country. That goes double for achy, breaky Billy Ray, too.
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The CMAs Shaboozey Problem
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If it ain't got a steel guitar, it ain't real country. That goes double for achy, breaky Billy Ray, too.
So, what is it then?
"Most people" don't have a say in who wins the awards though, right? And "Most people" aren't attending those awards making (rhymes-with) tasteless jokes about the black guy who didn't win.
So, what do "those people" care about?
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So you think the red carpet was just rolled out for Charley Pride?
How about Neal McCoy?
No, and it never will be. The only color of significance is green. Have it, and you'll go far. Don't, and it doesn't matter your skin color or level of talent. You're going nowhere. Fair? Hardly, but that's the game and how it is played
Actually, one of modern Country music's most prolific songwriters and producers not only is openly gay (and married to his partner), but also has a last name that would make him the butt of jokes (no pun intended): Shane McAnally, who is probably best known for co-writing "Body Like a Back Road" and being one of the mentors on NBC's "Songland" songwriting competition show. He also had one Top 40 Country hit as a singer under his full name in 1999, although during his second attempt at becoming a Country singer in 2008, he shortened it to "Shane Mack".
Shane McAnally - Wikipedia
I think one of the biggest problems Country music has ever had is they exclude anyone not in "The Club". They've done it forever. Country music listeners don't care who you are or what you look like. They like a good song. But the Nashville "music execs" know better than the fans. Shame, so many great Country songs won't get played on Country radio because the suits say they ain't.
Don't blame radio. Shaboozey wasn't on a Nashville label, and he still got played on the radio. The new Ella Langley song isn't on a Nashville label, and she's in the Top 5. Drew Baldridge isn't on a Nashville label, and he had a #1 this year. Radio can see beyond Nashville. The awards are different issue because both the CMA and the ACM are now based in Nashville. Most of their membership live & work there.
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I have Shane's self-named album that was released in late 2000 and I actually got to meet him during the CMA Music Festival that year. To me, that album from him was good stuff and he wrote ten of its twelve songs. To me, this may be the best song from him that's been done by another act.Actually, one of modern Country music's most prolific songwriters and producers not only is openly gay (and married to his partner), but also has a last name that would make him the butt of jokes (no pun intended): Shane McAnally, who is probably best known for co-writing "Body Like a Back Road" and being one of the mentors on NBC's "Songland" songwriting competition show. He also had one Top 40 Country hit as a singer under his full name in 1999, although during his second attempt at becoming a Country singer in 2008, he shortened it to "Shane Mack".
Shane McAnally - Wikipedia
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God bless you and Shane and Midland always!!!
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@TheBigA , I stand corrected. I must not have read thoroughly and didn't understand the issue. Thank you for clarifying.
We have a couple of Country stations in the UK, but they're so heavily focused on the very processed and produced stuff that sounds like AC that they just sound like AC stations but with unfamiliar music, and they get commensurately low ratings (the more popular one gets a 0.3 share, the other - which features Bobby Bones - gets the "too low to measure" asterisk). They've made the mistake of trying to appeal to people who don't like country music, rather than going for the people who do.
Shaboozey is one of the few country artists who has crossed over onto AC and CHR stations here, and sounds more country than a lot of the stuff they play on the actual Country stations.
Shaboozey is one of the few country artists who has crossed over onto AC and CHR stations here, and sounds more country than a lot of the stuff they play on the actual Country stations.
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Little tolerance for anything outside of the narrowminded's comfort zones. Never read, never expand, never learn anything new. Never advance beyond the old ways. If businesses held to that philosophy, they'd be out of business.
Entertainment should be easy to consume.
That's why it's entertaining.
I will admit I was wrong about changing his name. It should have been Boozer. Spelled like the running back that was responsible for the Jets winning their only Superbowl.
FWIW... wasn't commenting on you or your views, but all this societal antagonism towards DEI, how it's the most evil thing ever, etc., add in all the hatred of immigrants (illegal AND legal), and people who aren't like us, and we got 1930s Europe going on in the U.S. IMHO.
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Boy, it that a racially loaded answer. What does a "white" sounding song sound like compared to a "black" sounding one?
Trying not to offend anyone:
"Ebonics" unfortunately has held some black folks down in the past. If you haven't have been around it worked in an integrated work place, it's kinda like Great Britain's "English" verses "American English". Listen to a Rap Station then a Country station you will notice it.
My family is from Appalachia. We can really butcher English.
"Ebonics" unfortunately has held some black folks down in the past. If you haven't have been around it worked in an integrated work place, it's kinda like Great Britain's "English" verses "American English". Listen to a Rap Station then a Country station you will notice it.
My family is from Appalachia. We can really butcher English.
In modern music, both are mostly an affectation put on for show. Artists in both genres can code switch between their normal speaking voice and their performative voice. That's how country singers from the North can sing with a Southern drawl.
If you take formal singing lessons (without going as far as Opera) you will lose a lot of your "regionalism".
Back to the original subject.
I think he should have used a "stage name' : (some Anglo first name) Boozer. The bar owners would approve.
Back to the original subject.
I think he should have used a "stage name' : (some Anglo first name) Boozer. The bar owners would approve.
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