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The ever-evolving KMCQ
- Thread starter Dusty Dale Brooks
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Wolf2 said:
Sorry Charlie. Sell it to someone else, someone who has not been listening to the station from day one like I have been. I am no idiot. I can tell the changes in the play list. It is now the old same BORING formula that you know-it-alls in radio think oldies / classic hits listeners want to hear and time and time again you know-it-alls ruin station after station that way.
toonces2u said:
Usually I would disagree on the subject of KMCQ with some of the people here, however(as much as I hate to admit it) I have to agree with toonces2u.
I have noticed that 104.5 has played a couple songs two days in a row, so there definitely is something to the playlist being different. I don't know if this is a permenant thing, or just temporary, but I know one thing: it's certainly interesting.
toonces2u said:
Yeah, you tell 'em. Toonces. After all, what do those "know it alls" know about programming a station that YOU and the two dozen people that post on this board like? :
Jack Griffin said:toonces2u said:
Yeah, you tell 'em. Toonces. After all, what do those "know it alls" know about programming a station that YOU and the two dozen people that post on this board like? :
Oh, it sounds like a programmer or a consultants ego just got bruised. Well, all I have to say is the clods who are telling the folks at KMCQ to play stuff like Got My Mind Set On You by George Harrison, All She Wants To Do Is Dance by Don Henley and Heart And Soul by Huey Lewis are going to drive the listeners they had quickly away. Not to mention the over abundance of Motown, Aretha and Beatles, Stones, Doors etc. I was driving down the road the other day and I thought I had accidentally tuned into KJR FM. The people who have been programming 104.5 all along had been doing a great job up until now. They played off the beaten path oldies like Lady Godiva by Peter & Gordon, Sweet Cream Ladies by The Box Tops, Let Me by The Raiders, Cast Your Fate To The Wind by Sounds Orchestral and Nothing But A Heartache by The Flirtations to name just a few plus all the great northwest artists. Here is yet another example of something working fine and some new bozos coming in a feeling like they need to change it up.
Hey toonces - you hit the nail on the head. Thanks for expressing what lots of us have been thinking. Corporate radio is pretty poor and the only outcome of the consultants is the ensure that everyone across the nation is "stinking on an equal basis." It's a strive for medicrity that ensures that no one is "worse off" than anyone else. Creativity and individual talent are looked down upon and stifled. When someone comes along and tries to change things, they are beaten down, assailed and berated by the mainstream. Lenin and Stalin would be proud!
Well, as we all know, it's all about the revenue... Try explaining to potential advertisers that "don't get it" why they should buy a station that plays deeper tracks and isn't mainstream; even if they do "get it", they are probably wondering if radio is still where they should put their marketing dollars--it's much easier to sell a station that plays the tried and true hits that everyone knows vs. a station that has a great playlist (to us radio guys) -- especially when it's not affiliated with a Clear Channel or the like that can attract a talented sales staff--not to mention the ability to package sell/use as a value add--and when there is no Arbitron to whip out.
Trust me--I loved KMCQ--but pretty much all of us on this board knew it had to end sometime. It's funny that The Flirtations were mentioned--I have a friend who heard "Nothing But A Heartache" for the first time on KMCQ, promptly downloaded it and played the crap out of it--she loves older girl groups and fell in love with it.
That said, for a commercial station that is trying to go mainstream, it's a tough sell. The KEXP's of the world can be a bit more free with their playlists when they are selling (er funding) access to a lifestyle. We may not like it on here from a programming perspective, but the consultants of the world have a point--they wouldn't be hired, and radio wouldn't have gone to hell, if it didn't provide more *revenue* that way.
Trust me--I loved KMCQ--but pretty much all of us on this board knew it had to end sometime. It's funny that The Flirtations were mentioned--I have a friend who heard "Nothing But A Heartache" for the first time on KMCQ, promptly downloaded it and played the crap out of it--she loves older girl groups and fell in love with it.
That said, for a commercial station that is trying to go mainstream, it's a tough sell. The KEXP's of the world can be a bit more free with their playlists when they are selling (er funding) access to a lifestyle. We may not like it on here from a programming perspective, but the consultants of the world have a point--they wouldn't be hired, and radio wouldn't have gone to hell, if it didn't provide more *revenue* that way.
toonces2u said:
My ego's just fine, thanks for caring. Looks like your ego that was hurt, son. I mean, how dare ANYONE tell you you're wrong?
Did you call/write/e-mail KMCQ to tell them they're screwing up and you know a better may to program the station? ???
I'm noticing they're playing some of the same old same old more often, but if you talk to them they're pretty responsive.
Oh, and what got into KJR lately? They're playing full-versions of songs now like Sail Away by Styx and Piano Man by Billy Joel. Someone light a fire under their ass?
Oh, and what got into KJR lately? They're playing full-versions of songs now like Sail Away by Styx and Piano Man by Billy Joel. Someone light a fire under their ass?
1954 said:
Nothing is wrong with that song by Harrison but it fits on other stations, not on KMCQ which is supposed to be 60s and 70s. The appeal KMCQ once had was that they played those oldies that we don't hear incessantly on other stations. I turned so many people on to the station for that reason. The feedback I always got was that the station was fantastic and that they were hearing songs they hadn't heard in years and they loved it for that very reason. Now you may as well tune into KJR FM because there is no difference. The station is now off in my home, car and computer at work, with the exception of listening to Casey Kasem on Sundays and the 10,000 Oldies show on Saturday nights, that is until the new bird brains calling the shots at the station decide to dump those two shows. I hope they won't do that but it would not surprise me if they do. The 10,000 Oldies show did not air last weekend for some reason.
Toonces -
I can not disagree with you more of your opinion there is "no difference between KJR and KMCQ." The station hasn't seemed to change that much since we started listening to KMCQ except the addition of Casem and subtle music tweeking. The tweeking I hear is higher frequency of certain songs but all in all, the variety of songs on KMCQ still far out weigh the play list of KJR. And that there are live jocks on KJR and that whole morning talk show thing...but other than that "no difference"?
I can not disagree with you more of your opinion there is "no difference between KJR and KMCQ." The station hasn't seemed to change that much since we started listening to KMCQ except the addition of Casem and subtle music tweeking. The tweeking I hear is higher frequency of certain songs but all in all, the variety of songs on KMCQ still far out weigh the play list of KJR. And that there are live jocks on KJR and that whole morning talk show thing...but other than that "no difference"?
1954 said:
There's a balance, I think. A format full of deep cuts and forgotten oldies is pretty much a guaranteed 0.2 share...but playing nothing but the most familiar songs can also be rather boring. After all, a listener who never wants to hear anything unfamiliar may as well listen to their own collection on an MP3 player. Spiking in the forgotten songs as an occasional "oh, wow" track seems like it would be a viable way of programming a station and balancing between being too familiar versus being too obscure.
TexasTom said:
Yes, Texas Tom. I totally agree. That is what the former KMCQ did so well. Those guys had the proper mix of deep cuts and great, familiar, yet not too over played oldies. Now, they are only playing the so-called tried and true formula oldies. It is guaranteed that when I tune into the station, within 6 songs I am going to hear Fleetwood Mac and it is usually Don't Stop. Also, I am so sick of Aretha!
AMEN!airchair said:
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I thought KMCQ was doing very good. Now I don't listen anymore, because they are turning into "KJR Plus!" What the heck?!? We want half familar songs [Oh, Pretty Woman, California Girls, Fun Fun Fun], and half deeper cuts [like what we heard a year or two ago] with no sign of our favorite Kokomo.
-crainbebo
I thought KMCQ was doing very good. Now I don't listen anymore, because they are turning into "KJR Plus!" What the heck?!? We want half familar songs [Oh, Pretty Woman, California Girls, Fun Fun Fun], and half deeper cuts [like what we heard a year or two ago] with no sign of our favorite Kokomo.
-crainbebo
Anyone not pleased with KMCQ's direction might want to give KISN a listen at www.goodguyradio.com. It isn't quite the "Seattle" experience but I think it has a lot of what some KMCQ listeners say they miss.
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