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The Fall of KGO

Another problem with hearing CKWX is the added local noise in metro areas from flourecents, computers, etc.
I too try to listen to out of the market stations, but it's much tougher than it used to be.
Yes 540 Regina used to be a killer signal.
 
radioman148 said:
Another problem with hearing CKWX is the added local noise in metro areas from flourecents, computers, etc.
I too try to listen to out of the market stations, but it's much tougher than it used to be.
Yes 540 Regina used to be a killer signal.

You touched on some of the issues with AM reception here. PC's, CATV leakage, more crowded AM band and much, much heavier modulation all up the noise floor for AM reception. Now add the hiss of HD AM to the mix. The golden days of AM DX have passed.
 
TVradioguru said:
Goldilocks94941 said:
I wish more Canadians stations tried to reach across the border toward Seattle, but with AM 600 going dark (which was the only other Vancouver AM you could get fairly well iN Seattle if you don't count the heavy jamming on CBC-690 from KIRO), the dial seems to keep getting smaller and smaller.

So how would changing their directional pattern to the South benefit a BC station exactly? They can't even sell advertising South of the border. Would it be just for the benefit of a handfull of geeky DX'ers? ::)

Why not? Those signals have nowhere else to go. And there's a few thousand fans of CBC Radio One south of the border (They're the second most popular public broadcasting network for Americans, right after NPR) and I'm soooo glad CBU 690 isn't going away. That's a rare jewel on the AM dial and I'm glad the CRTC sees it's value too......

As for Goldilocks, I definitely agree distant AM has problems on the streets of downtown Seattle (KWLE barely eeks in. In the '80s there wasn't so much background noise, but it was listenable. Now 1340 is tough to listen to anywhere south of Everett. But on I-5 today - not counting tunnels or various overpasses - a few AMs from Vancouver (except for CKNW, CKST, CHMB, CJRJ, CISL and CJVB) still come in OK, with CBU and CKWX being the strongest. 730 (the former CKLG) used to be clear straight down to about Federal Way. Now they BARELY make it into North Seattle.

But all this technology is killing the (AM) radio star. Not against innovation at all or else, we wouldn't having this conversation via broadband internet computers. It's just a sad by-product of life today.

But AM still has a use in more rural areas.

But if you wanna hear something worse while DXing, try dealing with FM and all these Sirius/XM-iPod mini-transmitters they got on the roads and everywhere else today. And NOBODY in their right mind is going to keep them at the "accepted" radiation levels. Not when you can get fast and easy tips on how to crank them up beyond their "maximum" output from YouTube to various other sites. And sometimes, in some areas, it's actually NECESSARY to do it to make the things work decently (like New York, L.A., San Fransisco, etc.)
 
Goldilocks94941 said:
Some nighttime skywave from Canada would be welcome for motorists in Oregon and California, too. But I think they have a complicated directional array of at least six-towers just north of the border, and what we can get this way suffers from a lot of phasing at night, too.

I wish more Canadians stations tried to reach across the border toward Seattle, but with AM 600 going dark (which was the only other Vancouver AM you could get fairly well iN Seattle if you don't count the heavy jamming on CBC-690 from KIRO), the dial seems to keep getting smaller and smaller.

You guys ever listen to the CBC on AM540 at night? It's probably the most powerful 50kw signal in the US or Canada from Saksatchewan, with its transmitter on a large salt water lake between Regina and Saskatoon But it, too, is now suffereing from some interference that wasn't there so much a few weeks ago. But it does make for good nighttime radio in the car.

I'll probably start a new thread one of these days about technical issues of AM signals in the Seattle area. I've traveled a lot and listened closely to the AM dial for years in many cities, and have never heard such AM splatter anywhere to the extent I find from KIRO, KOMO, KIXI, and now even KCIS. You don't get it from the big stations in LA, where Tijuana stations are jammed in 20khz from LA's 50kw-ers. Nor in SF, Detroit, Cincinnati, etc.

It's different from the big hum that some AM-HD signals were causing at night. I'm talking about heavy sideband splatter that travels past 20 khz for at least 50 miles from the transmitter site. (And, oddly enough, the splatter only went away when KIRO ran an old time radio show on Sunday nghts a couple of years ago, except for during the commercials). I recall being able to hear CBC from Vancouver on AM690 loud and clear some years ago in Seattle - but even tho' it's still there, albeit coming from an ageing AM transmitter, the KIRO interference makes it unlistenable all the way till you get north of Marysville.
Thank you for all the detail. I can get 690 until sunset, BUT most of the time the trolley bus wires in my neighborhood make it unlistenable. It's a pity, too, as World Report and Claire Martin's weather come on right as I head home. I can get CBC-2 on FM okay (most of the time) until a local hill blocks it.

I'll have to try 540. Once in a while I know that Calgary's 1010 can come into the 'States as KCPW-AM in SLC had to go to the wattage of a lightbulb to protect it at night.
 
>>Why not? Those signals have nowhere else to go. And there's a few thousand fans of CBC Radio One south of the border >>

Even if they could get permission to change their directional pattern the cost wouldn't be worth it.
 
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